SmoochieFace Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I think a good woman improves a man. I disagree. Only the man himself can improve himself. A good woman may *compliment* him but that's it. Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Good people usually improve themselves when there is someone really positive in their lives. It's not a man vs. woman thing. These guys on here HATE women. HATE them. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 These guys on here HATE women. HATE them. Oh bulls***. What I (cannot speak for the other guys here) detest are those women who try to mold me into what they want me to be instead of accepting me as I am. That is manipulative and I refuse to play along with it. I have no desire to *change* my woman and if I did then I would terminate the relationship and find someone who is *right* for me. But attempting to *change* another human being is pointless. Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Not all the guys. But some of you really seem to hate women. Esp Woggle. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Not all the guys. But some of you really seem to hate women. Esp Woggle. Drop the generalities please... How about saying "Da bunny hates conniving, golddigging, manipulative, nagging, valley-speak talking, backstabbing little bitches. Much better... Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Drop the generalities please... How about saying "Da bunny hates conniving, golddigging, manipulative, nagging, valley-speak talking, backstabbing little bitches. Much better... Didn't you get mad and leave? Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Didn't you get mad and leave? *blows whistle* Don't get personal here, young lady. I intend to keep the upper hand and not go there with you or anyone else. Take it to PMs if you wish and let's concentrate on the thread topic please. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I think it's less about a woman marrying a fixer upper and more about the guy getting lazy after marriage. You need to work on marriage and it seems that some guys just stop. they stop doing the little nice gesture and loving kiss. thet romantic evenings, making you feel like the most important thing to him. He only shows affection whne he wants sex, is more intersted in the lawn sports, just wait to the commercial honey the intmacy wanes, the woman ends up doing more household work and when she asks for help she becomes a nagging bitch she tries to fix it to no avail and dusconnects the sex drys up (now she is a nagging bitch that doesn't put out) She unhappy and leaves. god men are such bastards! But I do think a lot of men get comfy and lazy in a long term relationship and that's where the problem starts. Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 *blows whistle* Don't get personal here, young lady. I intend to keep the upper hand and not go there with you or anyone else. Take it to PMs if you wish and let's concentrate on the thread topic please. Thank you. OK, first of all, this : * is an asterisk. This: " is a quote mark. Second of all, I am not the one who got personal. All I did was ask a question. You don't have the upper hand. Just FYI. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I think it's less about a woman marrying a fixer upper and more about the guy getting lazy after marriage. You need to work on marriage and it seems that some guys just stop. they stop doing the little nice gesture and loving kiss. thet romantic evenings, making you feel like the most important thing to him. He only shows affection whne he wants sex, is more intersted in the lawn sports, just wait to the commercial honey the intmacy wanes, the woman ends up doing more household work and when she asks for help she becomes a nagging bitch she tries to fix it to no avail and dusconnects the sex drys up (now she is a nagging bitch that doesn't put out) She unhappy and leaves. god men are such bastards! But I do think a lot of men get comfy and lazy in a long term relationship and that's where the problem starts. Why is it that women always seem to say that the guy is the one with the problem? Well... since you have said that *men are such bastards* I suppose I could counter that with *jesus, you women can never admit you're wrong about anything and you can't take responsibility for anything*. See how it works? As long as this adverserial bumping of the heads continues there will never be a common ground between the sexes. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 But I do think a lot of men get comfy and lazy in a long term relationship and that's where the problem starts. agreed HOTGURL....that's why the smart man never gets involved in an LTR and keeps everything casual with his female companions. I have already sworn off marriage and i'm about to swear off LTRs Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Why is it that women always seem to say that the guy is the one with the problem? Well... since you have said that *men are such bastards* I suppose I could counter that with *jesus, you women can never admit you're wrong about anything and you can't take responsibility for anything*. See how it works? As long as this adverserial bumping of the heads continues there will never be a common ground between the sexes. ummm because we are never wrong. Didn't you learn that in grammer school ! I just threw that in because of the tone of the op he is always saying women this women that. It is about the indivduals in the relationship and how they work together. And women get lazy too they stop shaving getting dresses up wearing sweats at home. It's more about respecting your partners needs and not getting lazy and choosing someone who compliments you in the first place. Someone who you accept as is. They rest is a comprimise who will do the dishes etc... But both parties need to keep up intamacy. be playful with each other kiss on a daily basis etc... Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 i personally don't know of any dude who married a chick with the intention of making radical changes in her. we pretty much accept them as is. You don't personally know my exH, do you. Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 it's about not taking each other for granted. I think divorce happens a lot because one or both parties start to take each other for granted. I think more women file for divorce becasue they tend to be more ctive in the relationship. I think most women initate the break up as well. Although I had a guy friend tell me that he hated breaking up with his gfs the crying really got to him so he said he become an ass to make her break up with him. Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 agreed HOTGURL....that's why the smart man never gets involved in an LTR and keeps everything casual with his female companions. I have already sworn off marriage and i'm about to swear off LTRs sometimes I agree with you ALPHA that people aren't meant for LTR. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 ummm because we are never wrong. Didn't you learn that in grammer school ! See, that's the problem right there. Not only can some women not admit they are wrong but they will arrogantly proclaim that they are NEVER wrong. Amazing. The ability to admit wrongdoing is the most valuable lesson a human being can ever learn. It even surpasses all those rinky-dink PhDs that are routinely doled out by universities. And women get lazy too they stop shaving getting dresses up wearing sweats at home. It's more about respecting your partners needs and not getting lazy and choosing someone who compliments you in the first place. Someone who you accept as is. They rest is a comprimise who will do the dishes etc... But both parties need to keep up intamacy. be playful with each other kiss on a daily basis etc... This part is good. I agree with this. Compromise and meeting halfway are important... none of this 80-20 or 90-10 s***. Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Originally Posted by hotgurl ummm because we are never wrong. Didn't you learn that in grammer school ! this was a joke. It is so absurd to actually one can never be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenyth Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Well, Why do some men get married with the intention of trying to make radical changes in the chick they're with? It's a setup for failure. The fact that you can't find someone with the traits you're looking for in the first place ought to be a sign that you need to re-evaluate your expectations. gimme a break man. As the recipient of said impulses to change someone, I resent my ex. And my current BF. Let me live, man. I sympathize with you. I haven't seen this go the other way personally, but I'm sure it's quite possible. In my opinion, women do it more often than men. There's probably some social factor involved in that. Regardless, whomever does it is setting themselves up for failure and resentment. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I sympathize with you. I haven't seen this go the other way personally, but I'm sure it's quite possible. In my opinion, women do it more often than men. There's probably some social factor involved in that. Regardless, whomever does it is setting themselves up for failure and resentment. Well my exH was a woman with a penis, to be sure. He was more emotional that I am. Link to post Share on other sites
carmaenforcer Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 OMG, you must be talking about my wife! Sometimes that woman will just not let me be. It is like pulling teeth just to get some time for myself at night. God forbid I stay up past 10 oclock and don't come right to be when she wants. Forces me to surf the web at work We must be married to the same woman because mine does the same things like you just described, to me. On top of this, she is super controlling over our money. She manages the bills and so I didn't mind at first but I've noticed that she likes to keep me poor so that I don't even have a dollar in my wallet without her knowing about it. I think it's just a girl thing, because my ex's Mom made the Dad pee sitting down because she didn't want him to drizzle out of the bowl. Telling a man how to go pee? Come on! Anyway, this is way off topic I know but I just had to join in on this one part because it hit close to home, but I think it deserves it's own thread. Link to post Share on other sites
magda Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 After a marriage, or partnership, I think the people involved should change to reflect the fact that they are a couple. They should each be less selfish and more focused on what they need as a couple, or as a family. A lot of the marital problems I hear about from women complaining are things like, "He never helps me with the children. He sits around watching TV every day and doesn't help me clean. He ruins the one day that was important to me. He feels entitled to special treatment but doesn't reciprocate or treat me special." That sort of thing. Things that don't involve him changing integral parts of his personality. You can't make a messy man a neat freak, but if he's considerate a messy man can be less messy for the sake of communal living! I think it's because some men think, "Why should I have to change?" Well, because they're married. You can't continue a selfish lifestyle and expect to keep a partner happy. I consider it growing.. becoming interdependent rather than independent. A certain amount of changing must take place. Not that there aren't some people in denial trying to change the personality of the man they married. Sometimes when people complain I just think, "Well, that's apparently what you get for marrying that ass." by the way, thanks for pasting that article, Blind Illusion. It was interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenyth Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Not all the guys. But some of you really seem to hate women. Esp Woggle. I think Woggle is a bit jaded right now, but that will wear off in time. I know I don't hate women. I get a bit frustrated with them mind you, but I don't hate them. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 This is what I like about black women. They will tell you exactly how they feel. Also cuz they have, on the whole, the best looking asses of all women. Such bootilicious cabooses... god. Enough there to keep a man busy all night! Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 agreed HOTGURL....that's why the smart man never gets involved in an LTR and keeps everything casual with his female companions. I have already sworn off marriage and i'm about to swear off LTRs What is wrong with an LTR? If you are willing and capable of having one, then what is the deal? Some want a LTR and some do not. It doesn't make anyone less intelligent if they choose to have an LTR. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Such bootilicious cabooses... god. Bootilicious? You are how old? Link to post Share on other sites
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