RecordProducer Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I was looking up ADHD and found a lot of information about food that's harmful and toxic. It's not just milk or microwaved food or vaccines (they contain antifreeze and phenol)... Here is the link: http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=48. Somewhere in the middle of the page you can see the article about food and if you're patient enough you can click on the links. Most of it is not easily understandable, but you can get the picture. I feel sick to my stomach when I think about all the poison I am giving to my kids and know there's nothing I can do about it. I don't even believe in the term "organic". It's just a big fat lie! I have a friend who is a farmer and told me that he does feed his cows only with natural grass, but he puts pesticides in the grass (just like all farmers do) and when the calves become cows he sells them to big farms who grow them fast with hormones and other harmful stuff so they can become big and beautiful. Everything about food is so scary! And microwave ovens not only kill the good ingredients in the food, but are also cancerous. Link to post Share on other sites
SurpriseSurprise Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Food is not about what you want or what is healthy it is about profit and price. We have stopped asking questions like yours and the medical community is a asleep and happy writing perscriptions. Vaccines still have mercury in them. Once the Polo vaccine prevented Polo it later was causing Polo so they stopped. But now there is a silence as to ADHD and ASD. Now there are studies showing measles are being caused by MMR shots. But instead of stoping they are legislating. Like a vaccines liability protection tucked in to our defense spending bill. If you read RFK jr's report on vaccines he documents the cover up from the CDC destroying data of tests. Once your body has hit the tipping point that it can no longer expel the toxins it is a domino effect. Then Milk is bad, sugar ... Milk has other issues such as Monsanto's Poslac. A hormone that increases milk production. According to Monsanto's own test show that it is shows that it is carcinogenic. FDA pass. Thanks to the miracle of political appointees. Just try finding foods that don't contain MSG (natural flavorings, additional spices) all nicely hidden. The more you learn the worse it gets. Very frustrating. So load up on your vitamin B6 and Magnesium. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Food is not about what you want or what is healthy it is about profit and price. We have stopped asking questions like yours and the medical community is a asleep and happy writing perscriptions. Vaccines still have mercury in them. Once the Polo vaccine prevented Polo it later was causing Polo so they stopped. But now there is a silence as to ADHD and ASD. Now there are studies showing measles are being caused by MMR shots. But instead of stoping they are legislating. Like a vaccines liability protection tucked in to our defense spending bill. If you read RFK jr's report on vaccines he documents the cover up from the CDC destroying data of tests. Once your body has hit the tipping point that it can no longer expel the toxins it is a domino effect. Then Milk is bad, sugar ... Milk has other issues such as Monsanto's Poslac. A hormone that increases milk production. According to Monsanto's own test show that it is shows that it is carcinogenic. FDA pass. Thanks to the miracle of political appointees. Just try finding foods that don't contain MSG (natural flavorings, additional spices) all nicely hidden. The more you learn the worse it gets. Very frustrating. So load up on your vitamin B6 and Magnesium. Polo? You keep mentioning this Polo. Is that some kind of preppy condition? Never heard of it. Link to post Share on other sites
SurpriseSurprise Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 yep you got me there. one should not drink and type or ride horses with long hammers Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 yep you got me there. one should not drink and type or ride horses with long hammers (Horses with long hammers?) Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Polo? You keep mentioning this Polo. Is that some kind of preppy condition? Never heard of it. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's GRAS (generally regarded as safe.) Link to post Share on other sites
Author RecordProducer Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Thanks for your replies, guys. I feel so guilty for the food I give to my kiddies. And they trust me blindly. I need to do a research on what is healthy but I am afraid that NOTHING is healthy. I understand that you have to use pesticides cuz otherwise we'll die of hunger, but the hormones are being added out of greed for money. The toxins are being put as if human lives are not important. My kids' school demands that they have Hepatitis B vaccinations. Why do people care about illegal immigrants and law for gay marriage, but not about the poison they eat on a daily basis? Where is the government's compassion in that department? I guess once some president dies of a too high level of mercury, they will start cutting down the limits of toxins in food production. But do we really have to wait for an epidemic in poisoning to do something about it? Would soy milk be better for my children? Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Would soy milk be better for my children? Depends if the soy beans are genetically modified or natural. Some packages don't tell if the beans are natural or not. The natural ones are better than the modified ones becuase of a missing protein. Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Almost all soy bean grown today have been modified, and have been so for many years... Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Alright you people need to calm down a bit. There is a lot of misinformation out there about this kind of stuff from people who can’t differentiate their heads from their a**h***s. Case and point vaccines, do you people have any clue what this world would look like without the polio vaccine, how many kids would become crippled… There are side affects to every vaccine but they are extremely rare. Make sure your kids are buckled up in the car because you are more likely to kill them yourself in an accident then really harm them with all these “toxins” It is easy to scare people by misleading them when explaining biological processes that are themselves difficult to understand. Link to post Share on other sites
basscatcher Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 My herbalist told me there isn't much out there in the US for food that there isn't something wrong with it. Your best bet--if you can afford it-- its to purchase from all natural organic health food stores.. Last summer I was all for going all natural until I realized the price of things. OMG... This country is killing all of us and there is nothing we can do about it but figure out how to slow it down and enjoy our quality of life. My gf went to Austria for 1 month. She ate just as much, if not more, then she did when she was home and she lost lots of weight. She came back for one month and gained some of it back. Went back to Austria for 2 months and she lost a bunch of it again. She didnt eat less while she was in Austia, her fiance there is a chef so she was around lots of food. Yet she lost while she was there. American food is just bad... There ARE stastics out there about it compared to other countrys. Link to post Share on other sites
Moai Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The food supply in the U.S. is the safest in the world. Growth hormone that is given to cattle is safe for humans, but even still it is not given within six months of slaughter. Any effects on humans in minimal. Even if you ate a 1 lb steak with no added hormone, you'd still be eating beef hormone. And even if ranchers didn't stop giving growth hormone up until slaughter, you would have to eat so much beef for it to do anything you'd probably die from overeating than the hormone. As far as microwave ovens go, they are harmless and don't do anything to your food, except heat it quickly. It is true that when you heat food you destroy some nutrients, but by making the food easier to digest it releases much more. As far as genetically modified food, everything you eat is genetically modified. Wheat used to be emmer grass, and over successive generations it has been selectively bred to become what we know as wheat. In corn, it was discovered that certain plants naturally secreted a chemical that is deadly to a certain parasite. So, those plants were selected for and now all corn has it. This allows farmers to use fewer pesticides. As far as carcinogens go, black pepper is a carcinogen. Should the FDA ban pepper? It is fallacious to suggest that diet is responsible for ADHD. What about television and video games? ADHD itself is probably over-diagnosed, and definitely over-medicated. But that is for another thread. Link to post Share on other sites
Moai Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Oh, and it isn't the food that is making people in the U.S. fat and sick, it is the diet. Americans eat so much processed food it is unbelievable. Cheetos, brownies, potato cips, canned chili, and on and on and on is the culprit. And there is nothing wrong with those things in moderation, but when that is all you eat of course you'll get sick. As far as the government killing us, why would they want us dead? Dead people can't work, or buy things. Moreover, why would they waste money on publishing the "food pyramid" and encouraging people to excercise and eat fruits and vegetables? Why fund the FDA at all? Read up on thalydomide [sp]. The FDA did not approve this drug--it was for morning sickness--but it was widely available in Britain. It caused horrible birth defects. It benefits the government--and corporations--to have as many people healthy at any given time as possible. People calling in sick costs the country billions every year. Link to post Share on other sites
basscatcher Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The food supply in the U.S. is the safest in the world. Growth hormone that is given to cattle is safe for humans, but even still it is not given within six months of slaughter. Any effects on humans in minimal. Even if you ate a 1 lb steak with no added hormone, you'd still be eating beef hormone. And even if ranchers didn't stop giving growth hormone up until slaughter, you would have to eat so much beef for it to do anything you'd probably die from overeating than the hormone. As far as microwave ovens go, they are harmless and don't do anything to your food, except heat it quickly. It is true that when you heat food you destroy some nutrients, but by making the food easier to digest it releases much more. As far as genetically modified food, everything you eat is genetically modified. Wheat used to be emmer grass, and over successive generations it has been selectively bred to become what we know as wheat. In corn, it was discovered that certain plants naturally secreted a chemical that is deadly to a certain parasite. So, those plants were selected for and now all corn has it. This allows farmers to use fewer pesticides. As far as carcinogens go, black pepper is a carcinogen. Should the FDA ban pepper? It is fallacious to suggest that diet is responsible for ADHD. What about television and video games? ADHD itself is probably over-diagnosed, and definitely over-medicated. But that is for another thread. Sorry I disagree with you. When I cut out sugar, wheat products and drastically reduced my red meat intake I felt so good... I couldn't afford all the replacement foods to fill me up when eating so I had to go back to all the processed foods, antibiotic injected- growth hormone injected meats, pesticide sprayed and preservative foods etc etc and I have felt crappy again. We have all these safety measures yes but in return for the safey precautions don't you think theres a trade off for saving money and keeping food supplys, etc etc.? Its like smoking... I've heard that its not so much the tabacco that is bad for you put the paper its rolled in. Does that make the tabacco safe if you use a pipe? I don't think so. Or I've also heard its the tabacco that is bad for you so you should grow your own tabacco leaves or grape leaves and make your own. Does that mean smoking is good for you if you change to another method? I don't think so. Your still infecting your lungs with a foriegn substance that isn't normally there and that can't help the body keep its strength or growth. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Americans eat so much processed food it is unbelievable. Cheetos, brownies, potato cips, canned chili, and on and on and on is the culprit. And there is nothing wrong with those things in moderation, but when that is all you eat of course you'll get sick. Yeah...well if American women would get the f*** out of the workplace and stop competing with men and get their asses back into the kitchen and start cooking some decent homemade food from scratch then maybe we wouldn't have this problem anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
basscatcher Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Yeah...well if American women would get the f*** out of the workplace and stop competing with men and get their asses back into the kitchen and start cooking some decent homemade food from scratch then maybe we wouldn't have this problem anymore. I knew you were a sexist... And you didn't post on my thread about it. :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
Moai Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Sorry I disagree with you. When I cut out sugar, wheat products and drastically reduced my red meat intake I felt so good... I'm sure. A proper diet is essential to good health. I couldn't afford all the replacement foods to fill me up when eating so I had to go back to all the processed foods, antibiotic injected- growth hormone injected meats, pesticide sprayed and preservative foods etc etc and I have felt crappy again. There is nothing wrong with processed food or sugar in moderation. I am sorry to hear that you felt bad again, but that may not be the food itself--as far as the meat and vegetables. I eat red meat all the time, and I feel great. We have all these safety measures yes but in return for the safey precautions don't you think theres a trade off for saving money and keeping food supplys, etc etc.? I don't understand. Its like smoking... I've heard that its not so much the tabacco that is bad for you put the paper its rolled in. Does that make the tabacco safe if you use a pipe? I don't think so. No, it's the tobacco. Or I've also heard its the tabacco that is bad for you so you should grow your own tabacco leaves or grape leaves and make your own. Does that mean smoking is good for you if you change to another method? I don't think so. Your still infecting your lungs with a foriegn substance that isn't normally there and that can't help the body keep its strength or growth. False analogy. Growing your own tobacco is not going to change what makes tobacco bad for you, namely using it. If the food we eat is so horrible and contributing to all of these health problems, why is the average life expectancy increasing? The fact is, we are biological organisms and we will get sick. It is inevitable. You can increase your chances of staying well by eating right and excercising regularly, but even with all of that you are still going to get sick. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 soylent green is people. it's people! Why are Americans the fattest people in the world? Food or lifestyle? Both. We do eat a lot of crap. And crap isn't good for your body. Last time I checked. We also have like the highest rate of chronic illness from lifestyle issues. Like adult onset diabetes and heart disease. Yeah the inevitability of being a biological organism is that you get sick, but the kinds of illnesses we tend to die from, in America, are the kinds of illnesses that you don't really have to die from. I'm just saying. Link to post Share on other sites
Moai Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 soylent green is people. it's people! Why are Americans the fattest people in the world? Food or lifestyle? Both. We do eat a lot of crap. And crap isn't good for your body. Last time I checked. We also have like the highest rate of chronic illness from lifestyle issues. Like adult onset diabetes and heart disease. Yeah the inevitability of being a biological organism is that you get sick, but the kinds of illnesses we tend to die from, in America, are the kinds of illnesses that you don't really have to die from. I'm just saying. I agree completely. You can't force people to eat right or excercise. Link to post Share on other sites
reservoirdog1 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 The problem is that you could drive yourself nuts thinking about all the things out there that could theoretically kill you. Try riding public transit sometime and thinking about the last person who touched the handrail right where you're touching it, and whether or not they washed their hands after they last took a sh*t. Or think about bills and coins and how filthy they are. The air we breathe has its own share of toxins, as does the water we drink. There's not much out there to consume that ISN'T bad for us in some way. I think it's a case of choosing your battles. You don't want to spend your entire life fretting over whether what you're eating can kill you. You need to make sensible choices armed with common sense and some up-to-date information. Just do the best you can, but don't let your worries take over your life. After all, life is full of risks. You take a chance getting up in the morning, walking across the street, and sticking your face in a fan. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 If you are looking for a cheaper alternative to buying at retail organic stores join a organic farm coop in your state. The truly organic farms not the s*** they put on the shelves with a "organic" label. It can cost from $200 up to join depending on how many vegetables you require in your household per year..... average family of 4 was at about $500 per year which you pay up front. Do a google on organic farms in your area. I buy 95% of my items in organic only markets and grow all my own organic veggies myself. Along with organic eggs (which free range is not really free range) I don't eat any land mammals but I do deal with livestock health issues and if you think for one minute a cattle farmer is going to hold onto a sick cow to wean it off antibiotics or hormones so you can eat it, you are dead wrong. As soon as a herd member falls ill is or non productive it is sent to slaughter. There is no sense in feeding a cow that is not productive or that can spread illness amoung a herd. Culling is needed to maintain herd health and productivity. Downer cows still make it to the slaughter lines.... those are cows too sick to walk or stand on their own. They are supposed to be banned right now but hell if you pump up the cow with enough meds most the time you can get them to stand. You can google "cattle feedlot photo" to understand the enviroment of factory farming. Cattle will spend up to a year in these lots. Mastitis is very very common in dairy cattle which requires them to be on antibiotics the majority of time. I would have to look up the stats on the percentage of dairy cows effected by mastitis. But have fun by googling the website NOTMILK. Interesting studies there and they appear to be legit. links to ADD, Autism, and allergies. You can look up the vaccines and withdrawl times on any website. These vaccines are not given by vets nor under the control of vets, farmers themselves purchase and administer them in most cases. Wormers as well which is mainly Ivermectin. Herds are dosed regardless if they show signs of disease or parasites as individuals. There is a huge difference between commercially produced animals products and home grown. The eggs have dark dark yolks when fed an organic diet and true free ranging layer hens produce them. You lower the egg cholestrol by the feed you give the chicken...... so if that works in chicken egg production it would only make sense that the things you feed, vaccinate, medicate the animals with would have a great effect on meat products and by products produced and sold to the public. All the info is out there....... you can find out the normal diet of animals.... even cattle are fed chicken poop and feathers and dead diseased chickens. Yummmy! ...... new laws passed make it illegal to feed cows to cows (ruminants in general) because of mad cow disease. BTW Rendering plants are really neato..... dogs and cats that are euthanize are sometimes used as flavoring for pet foods.... there is a study of various dog foods that shows how much euthanasia drugs show up in different brands of pet foods..... google it ..... studies are all over. Makes you wonder why cancer is at a all time high in pets as well. ya are what ya eat! I am a organic tomatoe! As for vaccines with mercury and that are egg based...... that fight will never be won... the only reason for the mercury is to sustain shelf life..... which does not make a whole lot of sense as producing most are not that difficult any longer. Normal demands for childhood vaccines could be met without the use of mercury in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Why are Americans the fattest people in the world? Food or lifestyle? Both. We do eat a lot of crap. And crap isn't good for your body. yeah and you can blame women's lib partially.... funny how all this happened at same time that women started entering the workforce in droves 30 or 40 yrs ago.... everyone now eats a bucket of KFC and Whoppers instead of a nice healthy home cooked dinner cause mom is off working at the office all f***ing day! Link to post Share on other sites
Fun2BMe Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I haven't gotten to the food part yet, but one of the links on that page point out to these statistics regarding vaccines: One out of 100 non-vaccinated people may develop cancer later in life, while one out of 4 or 5 vaccinated will develop cancer later in life. One out of 100 non-vaccinated people may develop arthritis later in life, while one out of 5 vaccinated will develop arthritis later in life. One out of 15.000 non-vaccinated kids may develop autism, while one out of 150 vaccinated will develop autism. From http://curezone.com/dis/read.asp?C0=48 Another interesting thing I read was that in 1993 the Food and Drug administration allowed the use of an especially dangerous hormone to be injected in cows for them to produce larger quantities of milk. This chemical has resulted in the increase in breast, colon, prostate cancer, hypertension, diabetes, and gynecomastia (growth of breasts in men) in humans. Europe, New Zealand and Canada ban the use of that chemical, as does the rest of the world except for the US. There is also large amounts of pus and blood in dairy products. Gross. http://curezone.com/foods/milk.asp As for microwaves, they use radiation to heat food and were they to have been called radiation ovens, nobody would buy them. Russia has banned the use of microwaves, claiming it destroys 60-90% of the nutritional value of the food, causes carcinogens as a biproduct of the molecular changes the food undergoes, irritability, hair loss, headaches, appendicitis, sleeplessness, increased rates of stomach and intenstinal cancers, higher rates of digestive disorders and harms the environment. Radiation/microwave levels in the US have been increasing by 15% annually. "A survey conducted among the Professional Service Associates, a group of microwave repair servicemen, indicated that over 56% of microwave ovens two years or older leaked levels of radiation 10% higher than the safety standards set by the FDA." http://curezone.com/foods/microwave_oven_risk.asp All that said, I stil think we have it good. Those who will be paying the price for our convenient lifestyle today are going to be those populating the world a hundred or so years from now, who have to deal with all the toxic waste we're leaving behind. Link to post Share on other sites
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