bluetuesday Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 To die is gain. Go ahead and shoot me. God already has a glorified body prepared for me & waiting in the wings after I die. They can't shut me up. I'll shut up when God decides to take my voice from me. I'll stop posting here when God decides to take away my ability to type. He can do that anytime He wants to. wrong. god cannot and will not break his own law of free will to prove something to you. god is no respecter of persons. whether you preach or not is irrelevant to god. what IS relevant is the fact that you misunderstand god if you think he would mess with your free will to say, do and believe what you want. and if you misunderstand god that fundamentally, what you preach cannot be the truth about him. You see born again christians are in a no lose situation in this world. If we die we get to be with Jesus. If we live then we continue to share the good news. So either way we win. wrong. firstly, jesus is with you now. that's what 'i am with you always, even unto the end of the world' means. you do not need to die to be with jesus. only those who have cut themselves off from him in this life by taking a rigidly dogmatic approach to christianity would think there was a separation between jesus and themselves that could only be overcome in death. secondly, this is not about your victory, but god's. i suspect you failing to understand this is connected to the reason that you are not communicating with jesus right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Author radiation7740 Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 wrong. god cannot and will not break his own law of free will to prove something to you. god is no respecter of persons. whether you preach or not is irrelevant to god. what IS relevant is the fact that you misunderstand god if you think he would mess with your free will to say, do and believe what you want. and if you misunderstand god that fundamentally, what you preach cannot be the truth about him. wrong. firstly, jesus is with you now. that's what 'i am with you always, even unto the end of the world' means. you do not need to die to be with jesus. only those who have cut themselves off from him in this life by taking a rigidly dogmatic approach to christianity would think there was a separation between jesus and themselves that could only be overcome in death. secondly, this is not about your victory, but god's. i suspect you failing to understand this is connected to the reason that you are not communicating with jesus right now. I believe we have free will to a certain extent. Unless God chooses to allow me to get killed or hurt today I can't. If He does allow it then I'm sure it's for a damn good reason. Link to post Share on other sites
bluetuesday Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 I believe we have free will to a certain extent. Unless God chooses to allow me to get killed or hurt today I can't. If He does allow it then I'm sure it's for a damn good reason. we have total free will. if we do not, why wouldn't god step in to prevent us worshipping satan and killing each other in his name? either we have free will, or god doesn't care. it cannot be both. and your death is not desired by god. you haven't learned enough in this life yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Author radiation7740 Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 we have total free will. if we do not, why wouldn't god step in to prevent us worshipping satan and killing each other in his name? either we have free will, or god doesn't care. it cannot be both. and your death is not desired by god. you haven't learned enough in this life yet. You have to understand that causes all things to work together for good. He will use evil & bring something good out of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 You have to understand that causes all things to work together for good. He will use evil & bring something good out of it. That is in Romans 8, but you just cherry picked the first half of the verse, but the latter half of the verse says .... to those who love the Lord. What you are showing here is not love for the Lord, but utter contempt for His grace. What does the Bible say about that. It says your on the road to hell with this type of thinking because: Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. 27. But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries" 29. "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherwith he was sanctified, and unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of Grace. 30. For we know him that hath said, Vengence belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord,. And again, The LORD shall judge his people. 31. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of hte living God." That is exactly what you are doing, acknowledging what you are doing is evil, premediating it, and mocking God in the process of HIs love and grace, and in effect tredding unerfoot the Son of God, and despising His blood in actually carrying out something like this. I trust the reason you are saying you are thinking of suicide, is you have the desire to change your thinking when you are confronted with the truth of the word of God, that your grace concept is out of wack, and God has been merciful to ensure that you did not kill yourself before dealing with my response to your threads, and be led to a delusion that you would be cover by grace in this action. I'm merely quoting the word of God here. Why are you preaching on street corners about the Gospel, and posting about killing yourself? Are you analyzing the impact or influence you may have on new converts or weaker Christians? You have allot of issues to work on, which I assume is why you want to kill yourself, and I would encourage you to be honest with yourself about why you want to kill yourself, and bring whatever problem you have before God. If God is so impotent that He can not even help you in your problem to the point you would rather commit suicide than deal with your problem through Christ, then what's the point of even preaching about Him - it doesn't sound like a real God in my books the way you are portraying Him with your plans of suicide. People will look at your suicide and say, another deranged nut, at least I dont believe the garbage that he believes. You want people to think that? That is all you will accomplish. Link to post Share on other sites
Spank'n'Rationality Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Why are you preaching on street corners about the Gospel, and posting about killing yourself? Because he is stark-raving-mad hypocrite, who is in need of professional help, but (according to one of his posts in another thread) is unwilling to get it, and would probably just accuse his doctor of "working for Satan" as soon as he/she would suggest that he might benifit from taking prescription drugs. I, as well as most everyone else here, have tried to be reasonable with him, but obviously there is no reasoning with him. He is set in his beliefs, and there is no way any of us, no matter what kind of proof we provide for him, will alter his opinion. As a matter of fact, I am willing to bet that if Jesus Christ himself came to him and said, "I do not want you, nor anyone else for that matter, to kill yourself." He would just say that the manifestation was not actually Jesus, but Satan proclaiming to be Jesus. My suggestion: Don't bother trying to understand him, it is a no win situation. Link to post Share on other sites
Author radiation7740 Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Because he is stark-raving-mad hypocrite' date=' who is in need of professional help, but (according to one of his posts in another thread) is not willing to get it, and probably would just accuse his doctor of "working for Satan" as soon as he/she would suggest that he might benifit from taking prescription drugs. I, as well as most everyone else here, have tried to be reasonable with him, but obviously there is no reasoning with him. He is set in his beliefs, and there is no way any of us, no matter what kind of proof we provide for him, will alter his opinion. As a matter of fact, I am willing to bet that if Jesus Christ himself came to him and said, "I do not want you, nor anyone else for that matter, to kill yourself." He would just say that the manifestation was not actually Jesus, but Satan proclaiming to be Jesus. My suggestion: Don't bother trying to understand him, it is a no win situation.[/quote'] It goes against my beliefs to seek mental help from doctors. It also goes against my beliefs to purchase medical insurance. I will not need medical insurance wherever I'm going. You have not tried to be reasonable at all. Everything in your posts is speaking condemnation. You might be of better help to someone else. Sure you might call it tough love but I don't see it as tough love. I'd rather not be loved at all than to be given tough love. Link to post Share on other sites
Author radiation7740 Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 I think some of you have control issues if you are going to get mad at me for not taking your advice. You do not see the world the same way I do so it's impossible for you to understand. The christian leaders I speak to can sympathize and understand where I'm coming from. Only people who want to control me will get mad for not following the advice. Link to post Share on other sites
Author radiation7740 Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 I have already reported spank & rationality and some others to the admins. We'll see what they think about your comments. Link to post Share on other sites
Spank'n'Rationality Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 I have already reported spank & rationality and some others to the admins. We'll see what they think about your comments. Yeah, I am sure they are going to really take you seriously, when you have accused them (the administration) of working for Satan. Oh, by the way, I too have reported you. So, if you want to act immature and "tattle" on people, your ass can go down with me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author radiation7740 Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Yeah' date=' I am sure they are going to really take you seriously, when you have accused them (the administration) of working for Satan. Oh, by the way, I too have reported you. So, if you want to act immature and "tattle" on people, your ass can go down with me.[/quote'] You just have a serious problem because I didn't want to take your advice. Afterall advice is opinion and should only be considered not blindly taken. Yet you and many others take offense to me because I won't blindly follow it. I have a mind of my own. The advice offered on these boards is not bible or gospel Link to post Share on other sites
Spank'n'Rationality Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 The advice offered on these boards is not bible or gospel Yeah, and you don't even follow those. Link to post Share on other sites
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