Getting Seperated...totally lost

[Gunny376]

HEY I'm glad we were able to share some of that white stuff with you guys up north. :laugh:

 

Isn't it pretty when it snows, I seem to see everything in black and white after a good snow, but it's just as pretty as the colors in the summer I feel, just a different pretty.

 

Just make sure you keep that white crap over your way! People here see a snow flake and they loose their ever loving minds, and are overcome with a over whelming need to drive their cars off the road and into the ditches.

 

Seriously, we had a "snow storm" here back in 72, got all of two or three feet, (might have been two or three inches?) Shut the entire state down for a week! School, businesses, and roads were closed. Families that didn't have wood stoves, fireplaces, gas heat had to bunk up with families that did.

 

Sidenote Perry, I just got my latest Cruscthfield catalog, and they had the coolest thing! A BBQ grill that attaches to your trailer hitch on your truck or SUV! Arrrggg!!!! Arrrggg!!!! (Primitive caveman grunts)

[Antha]

Hey, ilmw. We got a dusting. I can't stand winter. The first snow, everyone is cautious and drives carefully...and after that it's "I live in Michigan. I KNOW how to drive in this stuff. Plus, I have an SUV with 4-wheel drive, so I can go 10 miles over the speed limit because I'm--CRASH". I wasn't expecting it to snow and frost so soon. The other day, I was using my HAND as an ice scraper. Fun, fun.

 

So what have you got planned to do nice for yourself? Any ideas?

 

With my H, I feel a bit the same way you do (only different )...it's just not in your way to give up easily, or even entirely. Like a bulldog with its jaws clamped down...it's good to see that you are easing off. I really hope you get to a better place, go out and have some more fun, etc.

[ilmw]

Just make sure you keep that white crap over your way! People here see a snow flake and they loose their ever loving minds, and are overcome with a over whelming need to drive their cars off the road and into the ditches.

 

Seriously, we had a "snow storm" here back in 72, got all of two or three feet, (might have been two or three inches?) Shut the entire state down for a week! School, businesses, and roads were closed. Families that didn't have wood stoves, fireplaces, gas heat had to bunk up with families that did.

 

Sidenote Perry, I just got my latest Cruscthfield catalog, and they had the coolest thing! A BBQ grill that attaches to your trailer hitch on your truck or SUV! Arrrggg!!!! Arrrggg!!!! (Primitive caveman grunts)

 

A few years back Toronto go dumped on... well in their eyes they did... the mayor at the time...kinda panicked and requested the army to come in... :lmao: ... looked like Marshal Law had been imposed...

 

I live North of Toronto... in the "snow belt".. we got way more than they did... and people just went on about their normal business...no fuss..except for the normal grumbels of "friggen snow":laugh:

 

The weather up here has realy been strange... too warm for the time of year... and I have never worn a spring jacket an t-shirt... in January..

 

Not anymore... it has been COLD the last few days... and we have had a couple of dumpings on...

 

On a side note... I got my passport photos done today.. and a passport application... I'm going probably head down to the city tommorow and put in the application.. they say it takes about 10days to get if you go in person... which is pretty good... going... we shall see...

 

I am thinking of going to England... to finally pay respects to my grandparents graves... and get pissed in my old pub... the one I used to haunt when I was 16... before I got in the army...

 

I used to go in there and pose as a US Airman... cause I had a Canadian accent... and short hair... they did not know any better... and they served me.... ... I used to buy all my buddies their beer...

 

The trick was to by a half pint of Coke.. and a pint of beer... When the "Coppers" would come in for a walk through... we would have the Coke... it would last all night... ... Once they were gone.. the beer would come back out from under the table... ... wasn't I naughty....

 

BTW... that BBQ sounds awsome Gunny.... but it would look realy silly being trailed behind my Echo... :lmao:

[ilmw]

Hey, ilmw. We got a dusting. I can't stand winter. The first snow, everyone is cautious and drives carefully...and after that it's "I live in Michigan. I KNOW how to drive in this stuff. Plus, I have an SUV with 4-wheel drive, so I can go 10 miles over the speed limit because I'm--CRASH". I wasn't expecting it to snow and frost so soon. The other day, I was using my HAND as an ice scraper. Fun, fun.

 

So what have you got planned to do nice for yourself? Any ideas?

 

With my H, I feel a bit the same way you do (only different )...it's just not in your way to give up easily, or even entirely. Like a bulldog with its jaws clamped down...it's good to see that you are easing off. I really hope you get to a better place, go out and have some more fun, etc.

 

Hi Antha... good to hear from you... I was thinking of posting on your thread... to "poke you"... (take that the right way.. )

 

I'm glad to hear you can drive in the snow.... Up here we normally get lots of the white... %#*p... enough to send to to Alabama by the truck load... .. Share the wealth I always say...

 

What am I going to do to get busy.... hmmm.. Was talking to a buddy a work.. and he is going to help me get kitted out for hockey... I was looking a gym today... Need to get out more and that is a good excuse.. my Bowflex is great... but it keeps me in my apartment... and I need to meet more people...

 

I am going to take up golf in the spring... and go skidiving too.... (so I cross that one of my life list.... You know.. I only have to things on my list to do... Skydive... and go to Australia... Hay Do3...!!! Hook me up..

 

Antha... it is great to see you are doing things to heal.... getting busy yourself.. I think you are doing the right thing.... and you are a smart lady... so I should not have to say.."be careful"... and take your time with the dating thing... I have been (tempted).... a couple of times.... but still am not ready....

 

We shall see.... I think I would actually like to go out on a "fun" date.. just to have some female company... but... I'm I ready?... could I be a fun date...? that is what I have to come to terms with.... To look at another woman... in that light... is going to be hard.... I also don't think at this moment.. I have the desire or interest to actually pursue someone.. Now if someone came after me... ... (They gotta work for this... )

 

Take care of yourself... and keep in touch...

ilmw

[CryingCanuck]

I'm originally from the 3rd coldest National Capital in the World, Now I live in Canada's banada belt. We had a dusting ( if you can call it that) snow that melted when it touched the windshield....Hey GUNS, Nanook of the North here survived the Winter of 72... the year of the greatest snow cover EVER in N.America, I was posted at a border back then. Them poor "Mericans" thought we knew how to get rid of snow better than they did, hey they were 2 miles south right? kept calling us guys for advice, we just answered to get DEM DAWGS HOOKED UP and pull the snowplows...........

 

North of To in the snowbelt eh????.......... gee us investigator type guys could sure hazard a guess where ya are ILMW. Do you like them new hats you guys have? LOL

 

Hey one other thing, If and lord forbid, IF your DW is seeing another guy, you of all people should know that most women in that line of business hang with guy in the same business... so.................. My X was Justice.....Go figure eh?

 

Well I have to go out and cut the grass today, here in Canada it's a balmy

46F LOL

 

CC

[ilmw]

I'm originally from the 3rd coldest National Capital in the World, Now I live in Canada's banada belt. We had a dusting ( if you can call it that) snow that melted when it touched the windshield....Hey GUNS, Nanook of the North here survived the Winter of 72... the year of the greatest snow cover EVER in N.America, I was posted at a border back then. Them poor "Mericans" thought we knew how to get rid of snow better than they did, hey they were 2 miles south right? kept calling us guys for advice, we just answered to get DEM DAWGS HOOKED UP and pull the snowplows...........

 

North of To in the snowbelt eh????.......... gee us investigator type guys could sure hazard a guess where ya are ILMW. Do you like them new hats you guys have? LOL

 

Hey one other thing, If and lord forbid, IF your DW is seeing another guy, you of all people should know that most women in that line of business hang with guy in the same business... so.................. My X was Justice.....Go figure eh?

 

Well I have to go out and cut the grass today, here in Canada it's a balmy

46F LOL

 

CC

 

Hay CC.... you are close... but not cigar..

 

As for DW seeing someone in the field.. that has crossed my mind more than once... but I try to steer clear of it... and since are work areas border each other... and in this business.... rumours fly.... I would eventually hear something... who knows.. ... but trying not to dwell on it...

 

I dropped of s5 at school this morning.. had a great visit... little monkey was trying to play sick ... so he could stay home with me... ... had to litteraly drag his but out of bed...

 

After he went in to school... I went over to DW's to drop of his things... DW's mom is up for the week while she is out of town.... I was invited in by DW's mom for a coffee... We had a nice chat about this and that... she was very laid back... and friendly..

 

Its things like this that confuse me.. She had no reason to dislike me... I know this... but... why the invite...? Nothing was said... and I steered clear of realationship take... We just talked about this and that.. how the DW has settled in her new home... blah blah blah...

 

I was given a couple of hugs ... and left before my welcome became stale... I was also careful not to pry into anything.. during the conversation...

 

It was nice speaking with her... and If and when this is all done... I will miss my in-laws... they are good people...

 

Another thing that realy sucks is that DW's family loves me... I heard from several over the christmas period...

 

Also I found out that DW's grandmother is pissed at her for what is going on..(seperation)

 

The crap just keeps pilling on...

 

Dw called last night.. to say good night to s5... she spoke with me a couple of minutes before I handed over the phone... She sounded happy to hear me... and we had a nice friendly conversation... I let her know how good s5 has been... and that we went to the movies (saw Happy Feet) awsome film.... I recommended she see it... ... She seemed happy that we had done this..

 

I guess if she was being a real (B*tch) I would be getting my head around this.. easier... but she is not... and when I talk to her... I hear something in her voice sometimes... (but I know now... not to read into it)

 

Like I said before.... in a prior post.. I am pulling back... becoming less available... not calling her.. unless she calls me first... unless it is about the kids....

 

It would be easier if I could go NC... but its not possible as I call to speak with the boys as much as I can... when I don't have them.... I don't want them to think I have forgotten them... When It has been a couple of days... and I have not called.... Dw will sometimes call me... so the boys... espeacially s5 can say hi.. and or goodnight... which is nice:)

 

Well ... all my plans for the weekend have fallen through... my buddy who I was going to go hang with and have a few drinks.......... is bed ridden with some kind of flu.... and everyone else.. is married and with kids... and are all homebodies.... so... shhhhheshhh... Need to find something to do.... Im off for the next days:eek:

[PWSX3]

 

 

 

Dw called last night.. to say good night to s5... she spoke with me a couple of minutes before I handed over the phone... She sounded happy to hear me... and we had a nice friendly conversation... I let her know how good s5 has been... and that we went to the movies (saw Happy Feet) awsome film.... I recommended she see it... ... She seemed happy that we had done this..

 

I guess if she was being a real (B*tch) I would be getting my head around this.. easier... but she is not... and when I talk to her... I hear something in her voice sometimes... (but I know now... not to read into it)

 

Like I said before.... in a prior post.. I am pulling back... becoming less available... not calling her.. unless she calls me first... unless it is about the kids....

 

It would be easier if I could go NC... but its not possible as I call to speak with the boys as much as I can... when I don't have them.... I don't want them to think I have forgotten them... When It has been a couple of days... and I have not called.... Dw will sometimes call me... so the boys... espeacially s5 can say hi.. and or goodnight... which is nice:)

 

Well ... all my plans for the weekend have fallen through... my buddy who I was going to go hang with and have a few drinks.......... is bed ridden with some kind of flu.... and everyone else.. is married and with kids... and are all homebodies.... so... shhhhheshhh... Need to find something to do.... Im off for the next days:eek:

I think that they still want to keep in touch and do see you as there friend, and they want to stay friendly and the reason I say "they" is because I feel the same about my W due to her calling and saying she enjoys our phone chats.

 

Like Gunny has told me before they want to see what's out there but they just don't want to let go just in case because maybe you aren't as bad as a person as they thought when the moved out. If we (you and me) move on then we will really see if we do want them around. Sure at this time we do, but once you start seeing yourself as a different person is that person we were with the one you still want to be with??

 

You have also started to change and maybe she does see the changes and just isn't sure if it is true or just a phase you are going thru but maybe she is just scared to give it another try.

 

I would say she has just as many questions concerning you as you do her and each person has to work thru that in there own way.

You have to agree with me, we are so lucky to be here on LS to have great help and support and our W's are just doing it with there feelings and emotions and it has to be tuff.

 

Yes it's hard to do NC when you have a kid and when my W calls it's always about our boy, but is that a excuse to talk, I don't know?

 

Keep pushing forward and I feel sooner or later you will see the light at the end of the tunnel and hopefully it won't be that train that kills you, but the sunlight from the other side. :laugh:

[ilmw]

I think that they still want to keep in touch and do see you as there friend, and they want to stay friendly and the reason I say "they" is because I feel the same about my W due to her calling and saying she enjoys our phone chats.

 

Like Gunny has told me before they want to see what's out there but they just don't want to let go just in case because maybe you aren't as bad as a person as they thought when the moved out. If we (you and me) move on then we will really see if we do want them around. Sure at this time we do, but once you start seeing yourself as a different person is that person we were with the one you still want to be with??

 

You have also started to change and maybe she does see the changes and just isn't sure if it is true or just a phase you are going thru but maybe she is just scared to give it another try.

 

I would say she has just as many questions concerning you as you do her and each person has to work thru that in there own way.

You have to agree with me, we are so lucky to be here on LS to have great help and support and our W's are just doing it with there feelings and emotions and it has to be tuff.

 

Yes it's hard to do NC when you have a kid and when my W calls it's always about our boy, but is that a excuse to talk, I don't know?

 

Keep pushing forward and I feel sooner or later you will see the light at the end of the tunnel and hopefully it won't be that train that kills you, but the sunlight from the other side. :laugh:

 

Thx PW..

[Antha]

Hehe. This Merican thinks you guys are so silly! Talking to people in Canada kind of puts the whole living in Michigan thing into better perspective. My car just died on me...though winter wasn't the culprit this time. The engine is pretty much blown. I think I will just buy a snow plow as my replacement vehicle. LOL.

 

As for the dating thing--yeah, I'm not really pursuing people. I let them come to me, because frankly, I don't have time for pursuing them. It's nice to just go out and have a normal conversation with someone instead of staying at home all the time and having too many negative thoughts about the ex. If you aren't ready for it, then certainly don't, but when you are, there is nothing wrong with just having a fun time with someone who isn't your wife. Crap, even if you just hang out with some buddies would be great.

 

Hey, ilmw, how about we head over to Australia and go skydiving with CC?

[ilmw]

Here goes..

 

I was sitting in front of the tv... and this popped in my head..

 

No laughing please... I don't normally do this...

 

*********************

 

Just let me sleep

so I can be with you

for only in my dreams

are we still two

 

In my arms you lay

entwined as if one

the beat of are hearts

louder than any drum

 

I wish I would never wake

because then I would see

that it was only a dream

and that you are no longer with me

 

and that my dear

is my .... reality

 

******************

 

Ahh... feel better now:o ...

 

Sometimes I get possessed like that... kinda.. weird...

 

Night all... gonna try and not dream...

 

(this is for on here... not getting emailed or anything... just in case anyone asked... )

[Antha]

Hey, that was very nice! I liked it!

[Gunny376]

Yes, that was nice, and that's come from a guy that's not really into poetry. I think its nice, but it needs more thought, and dwelling on ~ more ponderance. Not so much the mechanics of it ~ nor poetry, but your feelings, your thoughts. Really good poetry takes years to write. You start out with an intial though, feeling, emotion, and expound upon it.

 

I say that, not because I'm a poet critic ~ but because you need to work on it for you! Because, in so dong your getting in touch with your inner soul, your hearts of hearts. Work on it! Make it perfect! (Not that it wasn't good in its orginal form) for you! This is you getting in touch and getting back to the fundamentals of being you!

 

Regardless of what happens, between the DW and you, always remember its going to be alright!

[ilmw]

Hey, that was very nice! I liked it!

 

Thx Antha

[ilmw]

Yes, that was nice, and that's come from a guy that's not really into poetry. I think its nice, but it needs more thought, and dwelling on ~ more ponderance. Not so much the mechanics of it ~ nor poetry, but your feelings, your thoughts. Really good poetry takes years to write. You start out with an intial though, feeling, emotion, and expound upon it.

 

I say that, not because I'm a poet critic ~ but because you need to work on it for you! Because, in so dong your getting in touch with your inner soul, your hearts of hearts. Work on it! Make it perfect! (Not that it wasn't good in its orginal form) for you! This is you getting in touch and getting back to the fundamentals of being you!

 

Regardless of what happens, between the DW and you, always remember its going to be alright!

 

Yup your right Gunns

 

I know how I feel.... and the shroud that was covering those emotions was ripped away.... many months ago... No longer bottled up... stagnant... hidden in my self emposed mental prison....

 

Like you I am not big into poetry.... Its ok... but there is not a connection for me... But... in the past when I was written a poem... by DW.. it did touch me.. because of the thought and effort put into it... and the feelings that are meshed with the words...(connection) I still have some of her poetry... she gave me when we first fell in love.... it has been in my wallet for about 8 yrs....(connection)

 

I guess this was an exercise in expression..... I needed to vent in a positive way....

 

For someone who has/had forgotten to express my deepest feelings.... it made me feel good... because it was.... a realease... with no fear of rejection... Funny thing is... you take it or leave it... because those were my words... they meant something to me... you don't like ... to *ucking bad... ....

 

Lets see if I have any more moments... of possession... since I don't do "drugs".... I'll have to rely on the Liquor store..... ..(kidding)

[CryingCanuck]

Everything keeps coming out garbled, but maybe that's because I usually have my feet in my mouth

 

ILMW that 5 year old son of yours is the luckiest kid in the world bud.

 

Believe me when I say this! The kid is a millionaire, he has two parents who love him to death, two parent who are there to reasure him that he's loved, two parents that will be there for him regardless of their own personal troubles, two parents who are doing their best to put their own troubles aside when a lot of others would let the trouble take front and center and finally two parents who aren't fighting for control of the little guy.

 

I think you two are incredible. I know there is another young man there, and you've gone beyond the call with him too, but no matter what people say, our own flesh and blood will always hold something closer to us and you Sir are a hero in the areas of their mental health and security and their upbringing.

 

Just wanted to let you know if you haven't been told today...

 

CC

[tweldy]

You might want to consider prose instead of poetry because a book about your experiences here would make for a great story. I've never seen this thread before for some reason - probably that I dropped off the face of the earth for a while. Nevertheless I've been rivited by your posts. All respect to the people who are replied to your posts - good advise, but I was totally immersed in the narrative created by your posts, to the point where I was skimming the responses and then completely ignoring them just to get to your next post to see what was happening.

 

This may seem fairly odd to you, but I've developed a serious dislike of your DW and its not because you've been disparaging her. I feel like you've busted your ass for her and your relationship in a major way and I happen to fall into the category of people who believe that if you have kids, you make an extra effort to keep it together for their sake. I feel like your wife is being too selfish. Maybe I missed it and she is doing counseling but if not, why isn't she in counseling to work out stuff out? From my perspective she owe it to the kids to try to make it work again considering that you've done everything possible to improve yourself and to meet her needs. Does she want to spend the rest of her life alone - because if she does meet someone else, there is a damn good chance they aren't going to measure up to you. Damn! I can't believe how worked up I am.

 

Anyways, best of luck to you.

[ilmw]

CC and Tweldy thx for the posts:)

 

CC

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thx for comments bud.. on being a parent... its hard to judge sometimes if you are doing a good job... and espiecally now.. that I am seperated it is even harder... I don't have anywhere the same amount of input or feed back I once did.. and that is a killer... it is nothing DW is doing.. its just how it is... not being there all the time.... But all I can still do is be there for the boys..

 

I actually just signed up the little guy for soccer.. checked in with DW to make sure she was cool with it.. she raised a couple of small issues... but I gave her some options... and she gave me the answers... so we are good with that... I told her she did not have to lift a finger... as I would do everything... She made the option to (if need be... we would take turns to take time of if s5 had a game on a day with both worked)

 

My life may have fallen apart.... and am now having to rebuild it brick by brick... but I'll be damned if my little guy will suffer anymore than he has to...

 

Tweldy

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Hi... thx to you to... I had no idea my thread was "amazing":laugh: ... Just me venting... and expressing... what is going on in my life... mind and heart..

 

But thx anyway...

 

As for my DW... she is not going to counselling.... I think she believes she has had enough advise from her support group.. friends)...

 

I realy don't know what is going on inside her head.. and am giving up even trying to .... it drives yah nuts... As for being selfish... Yeah ... she is...but... She gave and gave.. and gave... and not just to me... she would bend over backwards for her family.. friends..too... I seems she has withdrawn behind her castle wall... and is defending herself (with the boys) against the world... she also has a new circle of friends... (neighbours).. who she hangs out with most of the time... Not so much the bitter single women from work...

 

What going on with her... ?????... don't know... but we are friendly with each other... and she is considerate with me... and flexiable... with when I take the boys...

 

So...

 

I am at this time.... still regrouping... preparing.. for "what do I do now"

 

Am I ready to go on a date with another woman...? I am tempted... but.. in my gut... it still feels wrong... Not sure how long that will last.

 

Oh well...

 

Once again... thx for dropping in... and hope to see you around for awhile

ilmw

[PWSX3]

My life may have fallen apart.... and am now having to rebuild it brick by brick... but I'll be damned if my little guy will suffer anymore than he has to...

 

ilmw

This might be true but you know what the cool part of it is?

 

You will have a great foundation to put those bricks on and so no matter what comes down the road you will be stronger because of this.

 

Just like the others you have been an inspiration to many of us including myself.

 

I do know I'm spending more quality time with my son, it's fun to just do one on one things with him such as cooking and I know you have also done this with the cookies with your s/5. I can also tell pwsx4 is enjoying it because some of the days he is with his mom he will come eat supper with me before she gets home.

I'm getting better at playing card games and it also teaching me patience which you know I can use. ;)

[MoonGirl]

Hi again ilmw!

 

I also think you sound like a fantastic catch of a guy!

 

It sounds like you're really serious about being a good parent to your boys, and that is fabulous. I would be THRILLED if my arse of an H were so caring and involved.

 

I don't see what's wrong with going on a few dates. Does it feel wrong to you because you think you'd be giving your date the wrong impression? If your date knows that you're not available for a deep emotional relationship right now and that you're just out to have a good time (dinner, dancing, conversation, whatever), I don't see anything wrong with it. You don't seem like the type of guy who would intentionally mislead a woman into thinking you're available for something you're not. I'm sure there are many women who are in the same boat as you and would be comfy with casual companionship.

[ilmw]

This might be true but you know what the cool part of it is?

 

You will have a great foundation to put those bricks on and so no matter what comes down the road you will be stronger because of this.

 

Just like the others you have been an inspiration to many of us including myself.

 

I do know I'm spending more quality time with my son, it's fun to just do one on one things with him such as cooking and I know you have also done this with the cookies with your s/5. I can also tell pwsx4 is enjoying it because some of the days he is with his mom he will come eat supper with me before she gets home.

I'm getting better at playing card games and it also teaching me patience which you know I can use. ;)

 

I like the cards idea... funny... and strange thing... one of the guys from work is trying to orgainise a game of cards night.. and I already though of going.. breaking out of my little box.. (I always disliked card games.. never realy gave it a chance)... so I think I will give it a try..

 

Take care bud

ilmw

[ilmw]

Hi again ilmw!

 

I also think you sound like a fantastic catch of a guy!

 

It sounds like you're really serious about being a good parent to your boys, and that is fabulous. I would be THRILLED if my arse of an H were so caring and involved.

 

I don't see what's wrong with going on a few dates. Does it feel wrong to you because you think you'd be giving your date the wrong impression? If your date knows that you're not available for a deep emotional relationship right now and that you're just out to have a good time (dinner, dancing, conversation, whatever), I don't see anything wrong with it. You don't seem like the type of guy who would intentionally mislead a woman into thinking you're available for something you're not. I'm sure there are many women who are in the same boat as you and would be comfy with casual companionship.

 

Hi right back at yah Moongirl!

 

BTW () this is a "sarcastic smilie ..(you used it in your post)??

 

Thx for your advise... and your kind words..

 

Also... it is a shame your H is not "caring and involved" with his own kids... That is something... I get pretty pissed off at... when it comes to other people... You bothered to have em... now take care of them... and do your best to make sure they grow up to be the best they can be.. (sounds a little idealistic)... but.. its my belief..

 

Am I a good catch... ah... yeah... I am.. (arogant) No.. I am not... but I am a man who actually gives a damn...

 

Now that I have my head out of my arse... and have recognised my demons.. and have activily worked at exercising them... Have scene the need to improve myself... and activlity decided to make this a life long goal...

 

Keep myself in shape... and look years younger than I am... because I want to be healthy... and strong... so I can be there for the boys.. for as long as possible... and when your s5 can play restle for hours straight...(pheeeew) you need to be in decent shape..

 

I am well read... educated.. a good career..good pay... respected by my peers.. and management... Have a future... !

 

Damn.. I like/love me too... so ... yeah... I am a good catch...

 

Ahhh that felt good... a little bit of self promotion and praise never hurt anyone... :lmao:

 

Thx again.. Moongirl;)

[Gunny376]

As a single heterosexual male ~ I encourage all other men such as yourself ~ you are comtemplating re-entering the dating world someday to give serious consideration to the gay lifestyle!

 

Cuts down on the competition, and means for women for me!

[CryingCanuck]

Take it from a 50 year old who is in so-so shape and the biggest fear I really had after the thought of losing my best friend was nobody out there would want to associate with me, heck my W left me right?

Well there are so many women out there, I've met a few as you know some are great for an evening of adult talk, without any stings attached or expectations. They basically are in the exact same boat as yourself need adult chat time and no head games. problem is weeding the good ones out, hard to sometimes see the trees through the sleeze... But they are out there.

 

Gunny, you old goat, yeah right a Jarhead suggesting the gay lifestyle is like selling ice cubes in hell.

 

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[ilmw]

As a single heterosexual male ~ I encourage all other men such as yourself ~ you are comtemplating re-entering the dating world someday to give serious consideration to the gay lifestyle!

 

Cuts down on the competition, and means for women for me!

 

Ahhhh I see now.... Its a very cunning plan... have all us hetromales jump the fence.. so you can have the Monopoly... :lmao:

 

Nice try sunshine...

[MoonGirl]

Hi ilmw,

 

Sorry about the sarcastic smile. I'm still getting used to all of the abbreviations and funny faces in here.

 

Here's what I meant to say:

 

You sound like a great catch!

 

You're getting in touch with yourself again, are in great shape, have a great job, and are willing to work on improving yourself! Oh, and you write poetry too! Sounds like a great guy to me!

 

I really hope that I am where you are in another 6 months or year. You're definitely an inspiration to me because in your posts I see your dramatic transformation, which is one that I am hopefully in the process of making. Our stories begin differently since I am the one who will be leaving my relationship, and I DON'T want my H back once I leave. Yet, I think there are many similarities. You felt rejection because your wife left you, I feel rejection because my H abuses me.