Craig Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Gosh, it got awfully quiet in here all of the sudden. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I wouldn't put alot of stock in percentages or statistics though. They change often, just like gas prices. Probably more so. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Interestingly, I've seen many studies on this. The numbers vary wildly. I've seen other seemingly valid studies claiming married infidelity rates to be much higher - anywhere from 40% to 65%. I'm not sure why the results are so different from study to study but I've decided there must be some sort of fundamental flaws in the studies. I'd tend to believe the lower results but who knows. If, someday, I see several studies that produce the same results, I'll start believing Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Men who live with but are not married to their SO's are ten times more likely to be murdered by their SO's than married men. Better get married Alpha! Alpha, hell - maybe you've just hit upon the real, untold reason Woggle is getting married after all... What.... Like you can't see it happening?!?!?! :D Link to post Share on other sites
mental_traveller Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I have plenty of self esteem. I am getting married myself because I love her. If it were up to me we would just shack up but she wants to get married. Rofl. Since when is it not your choice? You're gonna be married too in this scenario, wake up man! If you don't want to get married, then don't get married, simple. Don't let some woman railroad you into a lifelong financial commitment if you are not ready for it. It's YOUR choice, not hers. Get married only when you are ready for it. Until then, it doesn't matter if she absolutely insists, you gotta tell her to get stuffed until you genuinely wanna go ahead. Link to post Share on other sites
mental_traveller Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I really don't want to marry her but I don't want to lose her and has agreed to sign a prenup that allows an easy escape if things go sour. Grow a set. If you're going to think that way, she'll be able to get you to do anything she wants. There are loads of women out there, you should always be prepared to walk away rather than be denied your own choices. How can you love someone who tries to force their opinions on you, and deny you a free choice? Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 She didn't 'force her opinions on him'. She asked him to marry her and he said yes. Link to post Share on other sites
ridingthebulls Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 That is because many men don't how to take care of themselves. Men need to learn how to cook, clean and take care of a home. I know how to do all of that. My house was spotless when I was single. I could never marry again and be perfectly fine. The only reason I might do it now is because she wants it to much. If I never met her I could have lived happily as a bachelor. My life is actually pretty damn good. In fact much better than many men I know who played by the rules. How are you NOT playing by the rules? This is your second marriage, right? I don't understand this. Sounds like you are following your fiance's rules now. Maybe YOU would be the one to cheat since you envy bachelor lifestyle.. that's what you keep bringing up anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
ridingthebulls Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 "That is because many men don't how to take care of themselves. Men need to learn how to cook, clean and take care of a home." WHAT is there to learn? Do men need to take a class on how to mop a floor or boil some spaghetti noodles? Maybe it's really because many men are just too damn LAZY to do all that work. Link to post Share on other sites
ridingthebulls Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Men who live with but are not married to their SO's are ten times more likely to be murdered by their SO's than married men. Better get married Alpha! Whatever happened to the common practice of getting married, paying for the insurance, then pulling off the slaughter? No offense, but fear tactics to force someone into marriage, even half jokingly, is really ridiculous. About the same tactic they've used in religion for some millenia. Nobody should be forced or talked into marriage. Either they want to or don't. I don't care what the circumstances are... and then we wonder why the divorce rate is so high and the court system is always burdened. Link to post Share on other sites
Lennox Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Woggle, Im confused. She knows you don't WANT to get married but she's forcing it on you anyway? I can understand the thought process behind dumping a guy that doesn't want to get married, because they're a waste of time. In your case though, you're going to get married just because she wants it. Marriage is hard enough when both people go into it with total trust, respect, and willingly. Throw into that mix you feeling "pushed" into it and you're dooming the marriage before it even begins. Let me preface what I am about to say with the statement that I think prenups are definitely the way to go and frankly should be required before issuing the marriage license by law. That's how strongly I feel about them. But in your case, you didn't enter into it because you just wanted to be honest and upfront with your expectations and know hers. You entered it because you feel you are about to place yourself in a position where you're going to lose dearly. I definitely think couples couseling is in order. I don't know how she can feel so insecure about her age (which isn't really old now, come on) that she would be willing to accept a marriage with a man that doesn't want to get married to her. At the very least, postpone the wedding until you both sort out these issues. You owe it to yourself and to her. Link to post Share on other sites
ridingthebulls Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 " If I never met her I could have lived happily as a bachelor. My life is actually pretty damn good. In fact much better than many men I know who played by the rules." So what are you saying? You will be miserable if you get married? If it felt right, it would feel easy and nice, dont you think? You desperately don't want marriage or are at least not ready for another marriage yet, so why even bother starting something that will likely collapse? Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Let this thread die...They've set a wedding date already. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 I don't mind being married to her but the piece of paper is more important to her than it is to me. She is worth getting married to though. Link to post Share on other sites
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