amerikajin Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Figured I'd just cut through the s*** and help my fellow man out a little bit. A few tips for the road. Catching her-- Rule #1: act like you don't give a f*ck about whether you get in her panties or not. From the very first time you meet her to the very last time you kiss, make her think that p*ssy's not everything to you. 'Coz if you do the opposite, she'll know that she can control you, and you don't want that. Never bring up the topic of sex. Never joke about it. Avoid innuendo. Let her be the one to kick off that conversation if it ever comes up at all. Rule #2: be real. Although DD's 'cocky and funny' routine does work, you don't necessarily have to have it. You just have to be real. You just have to look like you're comfortable in your own skin. Rule #3: Let her do all the talking. On dates or just idle chats in between meetings, make sure she's the one running her mouth. Men almost always kill their chances in the beginning by saying something that kills the attraction. You can rarely say too little, but you can almost always say too much. Don't. Just make sure you're the one asking questions and don't answer any personal questions until at least you've got a few dates under your belt. Rule #4: Know the signs of attraction and pay close attention to them. Eye contact, smiling, laughing and touching...if you have two or more of these in tandem, it's more than a coincidence - act on it. If you don't get these signs too often, keep looking. Rule #5: last but definitely not least, be masculine. Understand that women want men. You don't have to be a tough guy, but you've got to let that maleness come through. Keeping her (the hard part)-- 1. Again, act like you don't give a f*ck about getting in her pants. Make her think 'If he gets laid...dammit, I still can't control him.' 2. Do NOT take her crap for a second. If she starts flirting with guys right in front of you, or makes plans whenever it's convenient for her or otherwise makes you look like a clown, don't tolerate it - not even once. Which brings me to point number 3... 3. Don't tell her what you're going to do, just do it. Don't tell her you're angry. Don't tell her that you don't like it when she changes her plans at the last minute. Don't get jealous if she starts talking about her new 'friend' she met at a party last weekend. Just start pulling back and seeing a few 'friends' of your own. Let her see that you're a man of action and that you're not going to put up with her crap. 4. Keep your mouth shut. Sorta like rule number 3 except in general, this is a good rule to remember when it comes to arguments. Just keep your mouth shut. You may be tempted to tell her what you really think, and she may always go on about how she really wants to know your true feelings, but believe me when I tell you she does NOT want to know what you're really thinking. She wants you to tell her what she wants to hear - nothing more, nothing less. Avoid arguments. You will never be right, you will always lose. Just shut up and decide when you've had enough...and then go back to rule number 3 if necessary (or break up if you're really had enough). 5. Don't fall in love before she does. It's as simple as that. Women are more emotional, so let them get carried away with their emotions the way they normally do, and continue to be the cool, calm, reserve, detached male whose love she tries to win over. 6. Never let her change who you are. Taking karate lessons on the weekends and she wants you to give that up for more 'us time'? Don't give in. Keep kicking ass in the dojo and keep her waiting for you to come home. These are just a few pointers. Follow these basic rules, grasshoppers, and you'll succeed with women. Link to post Share on other sites
AriaIncognito Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 A man that acted that way with me, would never get a 2nd date. Sorry but I think it's way off base. Jennifer Link to post Share on other sites
crazy_grl Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 You have some good points in there, but you've taken it too far to the extreme. A guy who was acting that standoffish would never get anywhere with me. In fact, most of the time I don't take interest in a guy until he shows a little interest in me first. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 yes I would agree with all this stuff...and BTW, women are usually going to say this stuff is crap and does not work but from a male perspective it does work. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Let's hear it men. How does a woman catch you and keep you interested? I know what my answers will be, I just wanna see how close I am before I put down my thoughts... Link to post Share on other sites
Walk Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I agree with Crazy grl. Too extreme. Yes there are good points, but seems that the implication is to make the girl feel insecure and as though you'll split at any second. Probably wont' fly with most well-adjusted women. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I actually think that, point by point, this is dead-on...for *both* genders. It's exactly right! If I had done all this stuff, my BF (and previous exes) would still be around, panting over me, wondering what was going on in my head, trying to convince me that he's the one. I wish I hadn't been so transparent; I wish I had made him work to keep me. I just made it too easy for him. But I have totally learned my lesson; I won't ever make it too easy for a man again. From now on, I'm following this strategy to the letter. People get bored if they're not challenged. Women, don't get caught up in denying it works on you; just take notes on this strategy too!! This is the way to catch and keep a man. Great post! Oh, and I think alphamale's also right that women won't admit it. Nobody wants to admit they could be easily manipulated, so yeah, I think both men and women wouldn't want to admit it would work on them. But you know what? This is human nature, right here. It works on everyone, so there isn't any point in arguing about it. Everybody falls for it. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 but seems that the implication is to make the girl feel insecure and as though you'll split at any second. Probably wont' fly with most well-adjusted women. it seems to have worked for me many times in the past WALK....the idea, from my perspective, is to always keep the upper hand with women....no matter what. If she ever believes she has me 100% then I'm screwed! Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 And you've been married how long? I'd want nothing to do with a man who wouldn't talk. Keep in mind that you can only keep up pretense for so long - eventually your true self will out. And women, this is why I caution people to give it many months before deciding someone is worth staying with. They can keep this BS up for maybe 6 - 8 months but eventually it will get too exhausting, you'll see the real jerk underneath, and have a chance to flee. Ugh. This isn't about love. It's about playing a game to get laid. Amerikajin, call it what it is " The Player's Handbook". Link to post Share on other sites
Yamaha Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 To many rules. If I have to act like I don't care and can't let her know I want in her panties then she is not the girl for me. I would just be off to the next one. My rule is to show interest and don't become a friend if you want more. If things don't work out then we were not meant to be. period. Link to post Share on other sites
Walk Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 it seems to have worked for me many times in the past WALK....the idea, from my perspective, is to always keep the upper hand with women....no matter what. If she ever believes she has me 100% then I'm screwed! Your relationship don't last long either, do they? Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Your relationship don't last long either, do they? It's a known fact that alpha is a committment phobe. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Your relationship don't last long either, do they? many times they last as long as I want them to...I am in the drivers seat. 80% of the time it is me who ends the relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
crazy_grl Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 many times they last as long as I want them to...I am in the drivers seat. 80% of the time it is me who ends the relationship. True, but is it not because you've ended up with a crazy/clingy chick that you get sick of due of your use of these tactics. Yeah, this is a method of getting (mostly nailing) SOME girls, but it's not a method for starting a relationship. And if you wanna get right down to it, it's a way for insecure and scared guys to not have to actually open themselves up to having a real connection with a woman. You guys can pass off this advice all you want, but don't misrepresent it as something it's not. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 And if you wanna get right down to it, it's a way for insecure and scared guys to not have to actually open themselves up to having a real connection with a woman. maybe you are right C_G....but tell me, what is wrong with it when you are honest and up-front with the women and they still stick around and are eating out of your hand? Link to post Share on other sites
crazy_grl Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 maybe you are right C_G....but tell me, what is wrong with it when you are honest and up-front with the women and they still stick around and are eating out of your hand? Ther'es nothing wrong with it if that's what you want. But there are quite a few guys who aren't interested in that, who want a real relationship, but may not know much about women. If they strictly took this advice, they would end up in some really bad relationships with some screwed up girls and not know why because they did everything "right". That's all I'm sayin. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 If they strictly took this advice, they would end up in some really bad relationships with some screwed up girls and not know why because they did everything "right". Well at least they'd be IN a relationship instead of staying home on Sat nites playing video games and spankin' the monkey. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 But it would be a relationship with no future. And having a series of go-nowhere 'relationships' based on being fake sounds mighty empty and soul-destroying to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author amerikajin Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 Yeah, I see people asking how long alpha's been married...well, how long have you guys been married? If we were all soooo successful at relationships we wouldn't be here now would we? I, too, am sometimes rather dismissive of alpha, but I can only say that from my experience, he's usually more right than wrong. It does happen that you find people who are happily in love who don't play these games. But those relationships are extremely rare. I go with the percentages. Link to post Share on other sites
Author amerikajin Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 I should point out that these tips work especially well on women who are extremely attractive. It's probably not necessary to use this on less attractive women because, honestly, you'll end up doing these things naturally with someone you're less attracted to. It's when guys hook up with that one girl who really gives them goosebumps and makes them get rock hard...that's when guys need to pay attention to these steps. Oh and I forgot one more: don't pay for dinner unless you're actually getting some action in the sack. And even then, don't pay for stuff all the time. 2/3 of the way is about as far as you should go. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Rule #2: be real. Although DD's 'cocky and funny' routine does work, you don't necessarily have to have it. You just have to be real. You just have to look like you're comfortable in your own skin. Rule #4: Know the signs of attraction and pay close attention to them. Eye contact, smiling, laughing and touching...if you have two or more of these in tandem, it's more than a coincidence - act on it. If you don't get these signs too often, keep looking. Rule #5: last but definitely not least, be masculine. Understand that women want men. You don't have to be a tough guy, but you've got to let that maleness come through. 6. Never let her change who you are. Taking karate lessons on the weekends and she wants you to give that up for more 'us time'? Don't give in. Keep kicking ass in the dojo and keep her waiting for you to come home. These are the ones that I agree with.. the others are just to angry and harsh Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Oh and I forgot one more: don't pay for dinner unless you're actually getting some action in the sack. And even then, don't pay for stuff all the time. 2/3 of the way is about as far as you should go. Why ?.. Do you want to show a woman that you are cheap ?.. showing cheapness will get her ? I've never not paid for dinner ever... Link to post Share on other sites
KnowHowLoveFeels Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Amerikajin, Oh man! You really got a lot of this stuff WAY OFF BASE!!! I consider myself very attractive... and you are right about the rules on 'how to catch her' but you are soooo wrong on 'how to keep her'. IF a guy insists on keeping his karate classes on the weekends even after I've demanded that he stops doing so... is a gonner in my book. I'd dump him right there. Sorry to sound harsh, but there is no way you can convince me that your karate classes are more important that spending time with me. I agree with A_C. You are also showing to the woman that you are cheap if you don't insist on paying for the date... and for that, you wouldn't even get a second date with me. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Well I'd never ask the guy to stop the karate lessons but then, I might not be available when he wants me to be either. Those rules by the way, are the dumbest ever. And people tell me I'm attractive. Wouldn't work for me. And besides, I'd see right through it. Maybe they'd work on dumb girls (attractive or not). Link to post Share on other sites
westernxer Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I used to think along those lines after my first painful break up in college, but I have to agree with Outcast... ...a series of go-nowhere 'relationships' based on being fake sounds mighty empty and soul-destroying to me. I'd rather be alone than to be something else, even though I don't believe in being a lap dog either. Link to post Share on other sites
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