Shane361 Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 I have surfed porn before and came accross stuff that was sick. I clicked away from it and moved on. Now..if someone was to go into cookies or something maybe they would see it and say I was looking at it which would be far from the case. Now you said he was downloading it....did you see a file name and assume or see the actual movie which had child porn? Many times the name is misleading. It migh even say 17 when they are 19. You cant trust anything when it comes to that. If the name was sex with a 14 year old and it was truely a movie of a 14 year old then you have issues with him. But let him explain and see what happens. Also..go into the computer and search all pictures and all videos and see what pops up. You may find what you need to make a better choice in the matter-Shane
vampress1 Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 what your boyfriend was downloading were only innocent pictures that gratified his maternal instinct :laugh: ... Nice!!
Outcast Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 He should definitely call the police. I might be wrong, but I gather that simply having that kind of porn is considered an offense in a lot of jurisdictions and there's police monitoring which computers it's downloaded to. So before anyone contacts him, he should alert them about what happened. Now if he's reluctant to do that, you maybe have a problem but I hate people who accuse, convict, and sentence someone without knowing the whole story.
JadeStar Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 The main thing is right now, that wheather HE was downloading it himself, or it was a virus, backdoor hacker thingy from peer to peer sharing, what was downloading is illegal no mattter how it got there. I agree with Outcast too, you never know who is monitoring your computer. So many people, think they are safe in their home with their computer but you never know. So if the wrong people find out, its not going to be good. JMO Jade
Asafan Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 child porn is a very very bad, sick thing. But witch hunts are also a very bad thing. I think that you should talk to your boyfriend and determine for yourself if he is lying. It is possible for things to be uploaded to a computer without knowing, as many of the computer savy among us have pointed out. If he seems genuinely perplexed as to how it happened ask him if he wants to call the police and talk about it with them. If he gets defensive and crazy on you, then you know and you can take it from there. But if you value your relationship, I would certainly not be too confrontational or acusitory before you know for sure.
Outcast Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 I would certainly not be too confrontational or acusitory before you know for sure. Unfortunately, it seems to have become exceedingly common to judge people on the flimsiest of evidence and without giving them any chance to defend themselves. And rather than discourage it, people encourage it as you see in this thread
AwkwardMan Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 He should definitely call the police. I might be wrong, but I gather that simply having that kind of porn is considered an offense in a lot of jurisdictions and there's police monitoring which computers it's downloaded to. So before anyone contacts him, he should alert them about what happened. Now if he's reluctant to do that, you maybe have a problem but I hate people who accuse, convict, and sentence someone without knowing the whole story. This is awful advice. Just remove it and move on. Getting the police involved is a terrible terrible idea unless you hate your boyfriend or think he's a threat to children.
Craig Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Originally Posted by Outcast He should definitely call the police. I might be wrong, but I gather that simply having that kind of porn is considered an offense in a lot of jurisdictions and there's police monitoring which computers it's downloaded to. So before anyone contacts him, he should alert them about what happened. Now if he's reluctant to do that, you maybe have a problem but I hate people who accuse, convict, and sentence someone without knowing the whole story. This is awful advice. Just remove it and move on. Getting the police involved is a terrible terrible idea unless you hate your boyfriend or think he's a threat to children.Move on and ignore the fact that children were abused and exploited to make the kiddie porn? Hello? Is anyone there? I agree with Outcast, call the police. If the bf is guilty he'll freak out, if he isn't guilty, has nothing to hide and has the tiniest amount of civil responsibility he'll make the call himself.
AwkwardMan Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Move on and ignore the fact that children were abused and exploited to make the kiddie porn? Hello? Is anyone there? I agree with Outcast, call the police. If the bf is guilty he'll freak out, if he isn't guilty, has nothing to hide he'll freak out and get raped in prison. Guilty or not he'll likely get labeled by the neighborhood as a pervert and make his life overwhelmingly miserable by going public with this. Telling the police is akin to shouting it from the hilltops. By all means, check the credit card statements, if he's paying for it, then you might actually be able to help someone. If he isn't, it's not going to make a bit of difference in anyone but your boyfriend's life.
Craig Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Guilty or not he'll likely get labeled by the neighborhood as a pervert and make his life overwhelmingly miserable by going public with this. Telling the police is akin to shouting it from the hilltops. By all means, check the credit card statements, if he's paying for it, then you might actually be able to help someone. If he isn't, it's not going to make a bit of difference in anyone but your boyfriend's life. Why does the neigborhood need to know? If the neighborhood does find out that he was involved in the fight AGAINST child porn, what harm could come of that anyway? If he isn't guilty of downloading child porn then maybe, just maybe the police can use some of the information gleaned from his computer to fight child porn. And that might make all the difference in the world for one or more children, maybe even your children one day if you have them.
JadeStar Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 I hope that the OP comes back to give us an update on things.
SoleMate Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 Look folks, forget the bf. The number 1 job here is to protect the unfortunate exploited children in these films. These are REAL children who are REALLY being RAPED in these films! Looking the other way is like walking away from a child being raped in the alley behind your apartment. If the bf is innocent, he will agree with the above idea and in fact will eagerly accompany you to the police station so they techie police types can gather evidence. Suggest it to him. His reaction will tell you everything. (Please think, Loveshackers who do not use child pornpgraphy, if such were found on your computer, what would you legitimate reaction be? Cover up or holy war to uncover the truth?) If he is at all reluctant, then I am afraid you have a filthy abusive pervert for a bf and you need to dump his ass and take his laptop to the police all the same. He (probably/maybe) never raped a child, but he paid a pornographer to have it done for his benefit and pleasure. BTW, this isn't about porn AT ALL. It's about rape. It will only end when every member of the community takes a firm stand against it. No witch hunt here. Go ahead and suggest that bf get himself a lawyer if he has anything to worry about.
Outcast Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 he'll likely get labeled by the neighborhood as a pervert Well it's not as though the police will turn up with sirens screaming. They do their detective work for this stuff online. They'll ask you to take the laptop in probably and I'd do it - who knows what other malware might be installed! Get your machine scrubbed of nasty stuff for free even!
Guest Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 Hi Guys, Thanks for all the advice! All the downloading came from limewire where he downloads tv programmes, so its all free file sharing. To my knowledge, he doesn't have any creit cards. The file names were very explicit like 11 y old dutch girl gets f**ked, disgusting underage stuff and every single file had the word rape in it. When he got home, he found an unknown device attached to the wireless internet and was not able to get rid of it. But when i see him next, i will suggest going to the police, not only because it is illegal but also to see what sort of reaction he has. hopefully from that, i will be able to judge. Also, not to make excuses, I too, wondered why he would leave the computer on for me to find it, knowing very well that i would use it. unless he is totally stupid and forgot to switch of his computer!!!!!! Thank you everyone.
JadeStar Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 When he got home, he found an unknown device attached to the wireless internet and was not able to get rid of it. What kind of device? Jade
Shane361 Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 I have limewire...you can type in any name you want for instance if you type in 18 then alot of porn with 18 will be in the title. If it read what you said then odds are he clicked on it to download it. Why he left it on for you to see I have no clue. Not what you want to hear I know. Did you go into the computer and see what pictures and videos are currently on it? I am sure if there was anything bad he would have deleted it by now though. If you have not used limewire go in there and spend an hour on it and see how it works. -Shane
Guest Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 All the downloading came from limewire where he downloads tv programmes, so its all free file sharing. Time to dump Limewire . He could've clicked on it by accident while he was clicking away.. I posted a link or 2 if they don't show up I got to them by googling " limewire porn shows up on my computer " On the second page near the bottom.. Get rid of limeware and secure the wirless network
Tinman Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 To all the posters who put forth that his defensive reaction an indication of guilt I would just like to point out one sentence. i could not wait that long until he got home so i called him at work and screamed the s**t thru him. he, in turn, got horribly angry and told me to f**k off, which to me is an indication of guilt. Bolding mine I'm not entirely sure what "screamed the s**t thru him" means but it definitely sounds extremely hostile and accusatory. Of course he got defensive. That's what people tend to do when they're being accused of things, whether guilty or innocent. Now, I'm certainly not saying that he's innocent. I'm simply pointing out that the indications of guilt come from child porn being downloaded on his computer, not from him getting defensive when being screamed at. This is somthing I've been seeing a lot recently on these forums. "I think so-and-so is having an affair. I accused him/her and so-and-so got pissed." This is usually followed by posters chiming in that "So-and-so getting pissed/defensive means that they're guilty." The trouble is, innocent people also tend to get pissed/defensive when accused of horrible acts by their loved ones.
FredTravels Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 A different POV on this. I too would tell her to f&cK off if she screamed the sh&t out of me at work. There is a time an place for everything. Are you sure that it was ACTUAL kiddie porn? There are a lot of sites that portray them to be kiddie porn, but are actually very young looking 18 and older people. The fact that a file is called rape does not indicate that it was indeed rape-and not a consensual act. Many women have rape fantasies and literally ask to be raped. I have to assume he has a modicum of intelligence since he is employed. So, why would he let the computer download potentially illegal content, and certainly relationship damaging content knowing his SO is gonna be looking? As to the virusses and stuff. I am not a IT expert, but there is a lot of odd crap out there. Just last night, I received what looked to be a Yahoo IM from a friend but the phrasing was odd to me. When I hovered my mouse over the message (not click--hover) the machine started to whir and my Norton popped into action and killed something. So, had I not had Norton, I would have gotten some sort of bug for simply receiving an IM and hovering my mouse over it. I agree with Outcast that we are very quick to become victm, judge, and jury. Calling the police is wrong Kat23. In the US posession of child porn on a computer (if proven well) is a crime. It can result in jail time, and more importantly the requirement that you register as a sex offender wherever you move for the rest of your life. This is a pretty hard lesson to learn if it was a virus. If exonerated, it would be a pretty expensive lesson to lear--all for a GF that jumped the gun.
Outcast Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 The point, Fred, is that if the bf calls the police and reports it himself, he won't be prosecuted. As you know (or maybe you don't?) - files are never completely deleted from your computer. So even if he deletes the file, it's now there and can be found by people who know how to look. By him reporting it before someone else finds it, it IMHO eliminates the possibility that he can be considered guilty. Of course, he'd maybe have to admit he was using Limewire to download what he thought was regular porn if that's what happened but I figure that's not as bad as taking your machine in for repair and having the tech report having found porn buried on the disc!! I agree, though, that both should verify if it is indeed kiddie porn.
PandorasBox Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 I don't know that much about limewire, but have heard of it. I had a friend who used limewire at one point and I was thinking that, you type in what you are looking for, vids, music, porn etc and it will bring you to a listing of what others have that they can share with you or send you. So it would seem to me that if he was looking for a specific type of video once he accepts it from whoever has it, then it will begin to download or transfer. But I'm not sure. I'm also curious as to what kind of device you say he found on his computer. I don't have a wireless one so not sure. He has a computer and doesn't know what this device is? Is there anyone else that has access to his home that would have put that there? I'm not sure how there would be something there he didn't know was there such as a device.
norajane Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 I'm also curious as to what kind of device you say he found on his computer. I don't have a wireless one so not sure. He has a computer and doesn't know what this device is? Is there anyone else that has access to his home that would have put that there? I'm not sure how there would be something there he didn't know was there such as a device. If you have an unsecured wireless network, other people can connect to your network. On my wireless, I can check the DHCP table and see what devices (computers) are attached to it...each computer is identified by a name or number. If there are, say three devices on the table, and you only have two computers in the house, one of them belongs to someone else who's linking to your network. You can knock them off for the moment, but unless you set up your network with security, they can get back on. I have no idea if that's what he's talking about, though...
PandorasBox Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 If you have an unsecured wireless network, other people can connect to your network. On my wireless, I can check the DHCP table and see what devices (computers) are attached to it...each computer is identified by a name or number. If there are, say three devices on the table, and you only have two computers in the house, one of them belongs to someone else who's linking to your network. You can knock them off for the moment, but unless you set up your network with security, they can get back on. I have no idea if that's what he's talking about, though... Oh ok I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
Outcast Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 So could someone interested in child porn use somebody else's computer to download it and then use the limewire setup to get a copy for themselves? So if the police were monitoring the network to see who's downloading the porn it would look like her bf did but it wouldn't be evident that the porn was then transmitted to someone else??? Me, I never did trust wireless.
norajane Posted July 15, 2006 Posted July 15, 2006 So could someone interested in child porn use somebody else's computer to download it and then use the limewire setup to get a copy for themselves? So if the police were monitoring the network to see who's downloading the porn it would look like her bf did but it wouldn't be evident that the porn was then transmitted to someone else??? Me, I never did trust wireless. That's beyond my scope - I'm guessing a hacker might be able to do something like that, but I really don't know. It's not that hard to set up the security, though. You can do either the WEP, WAP, stop broadcasting your network, and/or specifically identify only your own computer to connect to the network and no one else.
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