TheSilentType Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I'm looking for the thoughts of the deep thinkers and non-religious people out there on the following issue...I know there's atleast one of you out there...so I'd like to hear your view. Warning: To all the dullards, the question I am posing may make your dull mind explode. So it may be better for you to go to a different thread... I'm not looking for any religious answers to my question. I'd like to frame this debate from the stance that there is no higher being out there. So here is my simple question..... Do you think there is any point or great meaning to our existence? My answer: NO (And before someone says "Well we should just all kill ourselves then," I'd say no...because what's to say what comes after death has any more meaning than this pointless life?) I really want to hear from someone who will challenge my assertion.... Link to post Share on other sites
Ripples Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 So, you only want answers from people who regard themselvesas 'deep thinkers'. Interesting to see who responds. Link to post Share on other sites
stoopid_guy Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I'm not looking for any religious answers to my question. I'd like to frame this debate from the stance that there is no higher being out there. So here is my simple question..... Do you think there is any point or great meaning to our existence? My answer: NO (And before someone says "Well we should just all kill ourselves then," I'd say no...because what's to say what comes after death has any more meaning than this pointless life?) I really want to hear from someone who will challenge my assertion.... "Great meaning?" Great for who/what? If you or I disappeared right now, the world would keep right on turning. Our immediate circle of family/friends would be hurt though. Our only "great meaning" is the influence we have on others. And who's to say anything comes after death? And should it matter? Link to post Share on other sites
stoopid_guy Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 So, you only want answers from people who regard themselvesas 'deep thinkers'. Interesting to see who responds. Darn! I read it as "deep stinkers!":p (Meaning of life: Making others smile.) Link to post Share on other sites
Ripples Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Darn! I read it as "deep stinkers!":p (Meaning of life: Making others smile.) <snigger> Link to post Share on other sites
bluechocolate Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Too funny! You ask what is basically a spiritual question (the meaning of life) & then attempt to put parameters on the debate which make any meaningful discussion on the topic pointless. No challenge from me then, but I'm guess I'm just a dullard! ...the question I am posing may make your dull mind explode. So it may be better for you to go to a different thread... humility: noun - a humble view of one's own importance. Link to post Share on other sites
Author TheSilentType Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Too funny! You ask what is basically a spiritual question (the meaning of life) & then attempt to put parameters on the debate which make any meaningful discussion on the topic pointless. humility: noun - a humble view of one's own importance. meaning of life....from the vantage point of saying there is no God (for sake of argument) Afterall, this whole argument would be mute if we were to allow religious people to come and just say their God created everything and that's the end of the story.... God aside, what is the point of our existence....what was the great need for living things to even exist. Its like we are all wondering this world not knowing how we even got here or why we are even here....so to make the best of the situation we just eat, f**k, spawn, build stuff, and then die....but we are none the wiser of why we are here or what we are supposed to accomplish. People do things to bring meaning to their life, but their very life in itself has no meaning. Who disagrees? anyways, if someone...who has studied a shred of philosophy...wants to prove me wrong, I'd love to hear it... Link to post Share on other sites
Tony T Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 "I don't know if we each have a destiny, or if we're all just floatin' around accidental-like on a breeze. But I, I think maybe it's both, maybe both happening at the same time." - Forrest Gump Link to post Share on other sites
stoopid_guy Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 People do things to bring meaning to their life, but their very life in itself has no meaning. Who disagrees?I disagree. The meaning is what you make it, the meaning is what makes you happy. The meaning/purpose of my life is making people smile, making cats purr, making dogs wag their tales. The purpose of my life is also to make people think. What do those outside my sphere of influence consider my meaning to be? I don't know, I don't care. If I can't influence it, why should I worry about it? Is that deep thought? It's deep enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Interloper Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Do you think there is any point or great meaning to our existence? Perhaps the only meaning is the meaning that you give it yourself Link to post Share on other sites
Author TheSilentType Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Perhaps the only meaning is the meaning that you give it yourself Let me use a diamond as an analogy. In and of itself, its just nothing but a sparkly hard thing. Yet, people will pay thousands of dollars for this thing that is just nothing but a rock In a similar way, that's what I think goes on in life. Existence is meaningless....but to prevent ourselves from going crazy we try to bring some meaning to it. That's why we strive for so many things in our live constantly....whether it is love or money or fame or something We are all desperately trying to add a value or meaning to something that in and of itself has none. Link to post Share on other sites
stoopid_guy Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Haha...point well taken...what can you expect on little sleep... but wow....people must have some viseral hate towards this topic to pick apart spelling....to prove that its not an intelligent discussion Nah, no hate toward the topic, but no fondness for over-analyzing life either. Life's for living, not analyzing. (Kinda like women, much more fun if you simply enjoy their charm and not try to figure them out.) No, it's not. Snot is definately not the meaning of life. Link to post Share on other sites
Ripples Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Snot is definately not the meaning of life. Noooooooooo! I meant that want is not spelt wan't. Um... Anyway, snot could be... Link to post Share on other sites
stoopid_guy Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Noooooooooo! I meant that want is not spelt wan't. Um... Anyway, snot could be... The meaning of life: Intentionally mis-interpreting things people say in silly ways. Link to post Share on other sites
Ripples Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 The meaning of life: Intentionally mis-interpreting things people say in silly ways. W00t! Me likes that Link to post Share on other sites
Interloper Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Let me use a diamond as an analogy. In and of itself, its just nothing but a sparkly hard thing. Yet, people will pay thousands of dollars for this thing that is just nothing but a rock Arrrh yes, a brilliant marketing campaing buy the the DeBeers jewely company to convince us that love=money. Can we draw further parallels on this premise that life and it's meaning is sold to us by multinationals? Is that deep enough? Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Actually, o deepest of thinkers, this topic has been discussed many times on LS. However the topic starters tended not to assume inanity on the part of the audience and therefore some very interesting discussions ensued. Note to all self-styled geniuses: invariably, people who proclaim their great intellect on LS then go on to disprove their own statement by making grand pronouncements in pitiful prose fraught with errors in spelling and grammar. There's a saying: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Link to post Share on other sites
lindya Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Arrrh yes, a brilliant marketing campaing buy the the DeBeers jewely company to convince us that love=money. Can we draw further parallels on this premise that life and it's meaning is sold to us by multinationals? Is that deep enough? I think so! When people are marketing events, they often use the phrase "come along and be a part of it..." So on a grander scale, I suppose nature has just given us the opportunity to be a part of the Universe for a while. A golden opportunity to meet and admire, despise, love, hate, smell, taste, f*ck, listen to and argue with other creations. Disclaimer: Responding to this post does not mean I think I'm big and clever. Likewise, this disclaimer doesn't mean I don't. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Read "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl. Link to post Share on other sites
Brittanyjean06 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I am beyond a deep thinker, I think too the core of things to the point where my head will exload from thinking so massive. Well Its more so of " Id like to think we have a purpose ". Some ways I just feel like there is purpose. I know don't if this really pertains to what your asking but my professor, she said we are the only " animails " who know how to reason. She explanied it more thoroughly and it just seems to me that maybe bad things happend. But thats life, if there is life than there should be much more after this? I look this up all the time and the time I looked this up I coulden't get a better overall view of this theory. Now I wish I had saved it so I can post it here but I can't. The trees have purpose don't they? to realease oxygen? everything has its purpose and we have humans have a more spiritual purpose than anything. okay take that tree part copy paste and your take your little deep butt to google and look that up:) Really I'm sure it will show up and give you alot of insight! Don't let all that sceintific crap take you off the path in too believing " purpose ". Link to post Share on other sites
Shyguy86 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Arrrh yes, a brilliant marketing campaing buy the the DeBeers jewely company You spelt campaign wrong! You clearly do not have the intellect to be in this thread. I agree with bluechocolate. Your original question is spiritual. Yet you want answers based on pure logic or scientific reasoning. If you don't believe in a higher being than you should already know that we're all just anomalies who evolved from nothing. Organic masses of matter that have no point to our existance other than to simply exist. Life is just a cancerous tumor growing on this chunck of rock we call earth. Your life has no meaning and neither does mine. We are here because our fathers were too excited to pull out. You have limited years of life so make the most of them. Once you die, noone cares. Few tears will be shed and after a short period of time you will be forgotten. I think my dullard mind just exploded Peace out homies! Link to post Share on other sites
Brittanyjean06 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I think so! When people are marketing events, they often use the phrase "come along and be a part of it..." So on a grander scale, I suppose nature has just given us the opportunity to be a part of the Universe for a while. A golden opportunity to meet and admire, despise, love, hate, smell, taste, f*ck, listen to and argue with other creations. Disclaimer: Responding to this post does not mean I think I'm big and clever. Likewise, this disclaimer doesn't mean I don't. I like your theory on that! I don't know if the golden part was sarcasim but if it was that was funnny, I hope you don't mind me copying and pasting this somewhere? I woulden't write it off as mine either hehee Link to post Share on other sites
Brittanyjean06 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I disagree. The meaning is what you make it, the meaning is what makes you happy. The meaning/purpose of my life is making people smile, making cats purr, making dogs wag their tales. The purpose of my life is also to make people think. What do those outside my sphere of influence consider my meaning to be? I don't know, I don't care. If I can't influence it, why should I worry about it? Is that deep thought? It's deep enough. Makes perfect sense to me, Like I said about the trees...they have their purpose to realease oxygen for us to breath:) I know its not as deep as anyone elses reponse but I know someone could simply pull out more meaning to what we both said. If the list keeps growing than there must be something out side of the sphere waiting for us, its just perhaps not seen? Link to post Share on other sites
stoopid_guy Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Makes perfect sense to me, Like I said about the trees...they have their purpose to realease oxygen for us to breath:) I know its not as deep as anyone elses reponse but I know someone could simply pull out more meaning to what we both said. If the list keeps growing than there must be something out side of the sphere waiting for us, its just perhaps not seen? I know of nothing outside my sphere, because as soon as I'm aware of it, it's in my sphere. It's influencing me, and/or I'm influencing it. And with regard to the trees, perhaps OUR purpose is to release carbon dioxide for them. (And fertilizer.) Link to post Share on other sites
Brittanyjean06 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 ha ha. Who knows Who knows! Link to post Share on other sites
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