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Hey Swirly!

 

I'm 23 and he's about to turn 22...

 

My guy and I went out for a month... but we knew each other before that... ok now what I'm about to tell is true I swear... I met him about a year ago...and a friend of mine had a crush on him so I didn't ask him out or anything...but the thing is...he had a crush on me...but had just got out of another relationship so didn't ask me out either... so we hang out with our friends for a while and then stopped seeing cuz we were both really busy....I'm a swimmer...he's into triathlon... so anyway...

 

We went again in august last year because I was leaving for a 8 month trip in Australia...and I thought he was even cuter then he was before and when my friend told me he would be there that night I got all excited... I asked myself why back then...

 

So...we talked during the evening and we exchanged our email so that we could chat while I was in the land down under... I was sad to leave cuz I realized I really liked him...

 

While I was gone he went out with this girl....my sister's best friend...they were together for 5 months...he lef her at the end of january...and from then we started to talk more on MSN...ans he started to flirt with me a bit... like he would say that everything on my pictures was pretty and is he would repeat everything and put it in huge letters... ahah! so when I was over there we told each other we would see when I would come back...we did...and it was great... he kept saying I was the first girlfriend he wanted to bring to his triathlon...that he thought I was so great cuz I understood his schedule and he didn't feel any pressure with me...

 

I told him I was sad to leave...and he told me he would have never gone out with the other girl if I would have stayed... that he had this crush on me back then...and that he always thought I was soooo pretty and everything... and that he was also sad that I left in august...

 

I don't know if he ever had a bad past relationship....and he never told me why he backed off all of a sudden... he told he doesn't know how to explain it...and that he was very sorry about it...that's all he said... and when I left him I asked if he still had feelings for me but just didn't wanna be in a relationship or something and he told me "I don't have time to think about this right now"....or..."I have too many things to do right now"...or "I have too many things on my mind right now" ...always saying "right now"...like if he meant something would happen in the future... I got so mad...why couldn't he be more clear...like if he wanted me to keep loving him and wait...I ain't gonna wait!!!

 

anyway... don't you think our stories are so similar it's almost scary ahah!

 

Again about that questionnaire thing... I don't think it affected me because it was probably for another girl (i'm not sure...I suppose it is)...I think it affected me because he doesn't talk to for 2 months and then because it's in his benefits to have the questionnaire...he ask for it and is all nice and then goes back to being mad...I just thought it was weird for an ex to ask for that sort of thing...like if I would help him get laid... or something...I wouldn't even ask my ex of 5 years for that kind of thing...maybe it's just me...

 

Do you think I'm being too polite?

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I see... so you really don't want people to give their honest opinions and advice. You want people to tell you what you want to hear. Is that what you want?

 

Why do some people loathe the idea of being told that their thinking is flawed?

 

NO! I don't want people telling me what I want to hear...I think there are nicer ways to tell your opinion...!! Did I sound happy at all in my thread... Do you think I need people telling me stupid comments instead of saying nicely what they think...??? As if that's gonna make me feel better...If you read some of the replies correctly you will see that it is possible to say what you think without making me feel like an idiot...like laraV for example... or diver012 or climbergirl!

 

You think that talking about my problems like a "bunch of crap" like rooster_dar did is saying an opinion...not it's judging me and others who might feel like I do...

 

I always said..."If you have anything nice to say...then just don't say anything at all..."

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I wasn't judging you, I was just rubbing it in that you made some errors in judement. Look, I don't want to come off as sounding like an ***hole, so I will apologize for jumping on you. Obviously you already feel bad about what happened, so igore my bold statements if you will.

 

Whatever happens, good luck!

 

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In my opinion, I feel like we are sometimes rushed to say go NC, the dumper is wrong, the dumpee is right, walk away, etc etc. It's an all too common response. Sometimes NC is the answer. Other times walking away and not looking back is best. Other times it is not. I guess the point I am trying to make is that every situation is different. The dumper, depending on the situation, may hurt more than the dumpee in that the dumper was given no other choice but to walk away because the relationship was failing and the dumpee was doing nothing to fix it.

 

Some people are here to find healing to move on. Others are here to find hope in that they will once again reunite with their loved one. One point I am trying to make is that a breakup is not always a negative thing and does not always mean that things cannot or will not work out. Sometimes a breakup is the best thing for a relationship in that it will cause both parties to wake up, realize the problems they both contributed to the relationship and make them realize they need to fix themselves for this or any relationship to work.....but both have to realize and commit to fixing it for there be any chance for it to work.

 

I am not here to give anyone hope or to tell anyone there is no hope. What I am saying is we all need to look deep into our failed relationships. Why did they fail? What part did I have in it failing? How can I fix myself and what I did so that maybe I can reconsile with my partner or ensure it won't happen in any future relationships.

 

Just to tell you, I was the dumpee and while I do not understand or fell we should have broken up, I have used this time to fix myself and make me better. NC was the best thing for me and I do not see me getting back with my Ex but I can tell you I will not make the same small mistakes that I made again.

 

I feel that if I was in Tine's shoes, I would have talked with my partner and told them how I felt. If nothing changed, I would have told them that while I don't want to, I must walk away and it is up to you to say how far. Lara, great response.

 

Best of luck to everyone. I hope we all get what is best for us!

 

Take care....

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Allright! It's forgotten rooster_dar :)

 

Thanxs alot rudy!!!

 

It is exactly what I did before I left him...we talked and I told him how I felt...nothing changed...so I did tell him I didn't wanna leave him but I had too...because I expect to be treated with more respect in my relationships...

 

Again thanxs rudy...ALOT!

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I understand Tine. He knows how you feel and why you walked away. I would give him as much space as possible and do not worry about how he is acting or not acting toward you. Maybe one day he will realize what he had and want to work to get that back. And of course, he may not. One thing is for certain, you deserve to be treated special. If you do get back together in the future, I hope you both make the changes to make it work. Relationships are so special. It is sad when they do not work out.

 

One reason I do not see my ex and I getting back together is she is not willing to make the changes to herself to make the relationship work and I have made those changes.

 

Best of luck to you Tine!!!

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I absolutetly feel the way...I can today honestly tell what I did that was not right for the relationship...and I also can not consider going back to him if he's the same way...

 

A friend of mine asked me about it the other day and I told her... "The only way I am going back to him if he has changed and tell me he knows what he has changed that could now make the relationship work!"

 

I have my flaws too...I know what they are and I'm working on them...that is what is important right now...I'm focusing on being a better person...for me...and my future!!!

 

I agree that realtionships are very special... I find it hard to find someone that also see it the same way as I do... I feel like alot of people lately are not willing to really try to make a relationship work...I don't know if it's a new sickness or something...or if it always existed... I feel like people are more afraid of commitment then before..and I don't understand why...being close to someone and giving love to someone is the greatest thing...

 

why are people having difficulties giving their life for one another...??

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Gosh, there can be so many answers to that question. A couple of the most popular are that people often get too comfortable in a relationship and stop doing the things that got them to the point where they are in their relationship and then it begins to slowly deteriate. Basically, the honeymoon period ends and the relationship begins to become stale.

 

Others sometimes feel the grass is greener on the other side.

 

Others stop making their relationship a priority.

 

You and everyone else deserves the best in a relationship. Do NOT settle or give anything less!!!

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Others stop making their relationship a priority.

 

You and everyone else deserves the best in a relationship. Do NOT settle or give anything less!!!

 

I think that's what he did...I think that in the beginning he wanted to be with me as much as I wanted to be with him...but when we actually got together and when he knew he had me "for sure"...he stopped making effort for the relationship to work...that's what he did wrong I think...

 

My bads are that when he stopped making effort...I started freaking out...calling him a bit more often and actually asking himi what was wrong...he didn't want that...a woman always asking question about the realtionship and telling him she's scared... I'm working on that...freaking out less...

 

It is true that we all deserve the best in our relationships... I keep telling myself everyday...because even thought I said I don't wanna get back with him (I think he won't ever want to)... it's hard because my heart wants to... but he head doesn't... so it's a constant battle between my heart and my head... in the morning I don't wanna...and in the afternoon my god I would take him anytime...you know?...

 

It's weird saying that...just 5 days ago I thought I was doing fine and it's like I relapsed or something...

 

Right now...I'd take him...oh no no!..now I would not! :o see... big fight!

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Tine-

 

I feel the same way you do, although my NC has been for longer. Today is 1 month that I ended things with my ex, via a text no doubt. Not the way I wanted it to go, but I tried talking and calling, so I suppose a vm would have been better. Who knows. I made one attempt to call him after I ended it, leaving a nice vm that I felt weird with the way things all ended and I would never have intended for things to go that way and if he got a minute, to give me a call....and he never did, so thats that. I feel so bad and guilty like I did something wrong....yes I ended it, but my god, after days of getting the blow off and the final straw was me sitting on my deck for 2 hrs waiting for him to come over cause he said he would, only to NOT show.....I hastily texted him. It was a nice enough text haha, but still.

 

My head and heart are still battling too. Its been a month and I am still pretty bummed about things. I really thought I would have heard something by now and I thought I was more secure with myself to not NEED to hear something from some guy I liked.....but it hurts and time will heal it. It hurts double because I never even knew what happened.....6 weeks we were great and then BAM. Never to hear any response is also shady, but I guess thats his way.

 

But Tine, if he was acting a certain way in the beginning and then totally changed, of course you are going to notice that and wonder....it usually happens in EVERY relationship. It could have just been that he got comfortable too....which isn't a bad thing either. But I hear you on trying to control the neediness.....except with me, I kept it to myself and vented it to my friends, but I still FELT it and I didn't like that at all. I only asked him about times he blew things off....that I had every right to do, but he couldn't handle it. If your guy was also being ruder or blowing things off, you had every right to ask what was wrong. I wish now looking back I would have just blown him off right back, but thats not how I work.......and I did brush him off for a couple days, but thats a game too.....I am more direct. You want to be who you are and have someone love you for that. If you yourself have things you want to work on for yourself, then thats great, good for you. But don't change who you are because this one guy didn't appreciate what he had....gosh, I need to look in the mirror and say that! haha

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You want to be who you are and have someone love you for that. If you yourself have things you want to work on for yourself, then thats great, good for you. But don't change who you are because this one guy didn't appreciate what he had....

 

True...sometimes I wonder if I really need to change or if I wasn't that bad after all??...what is I wanna change only because I "think" it might bring him back...

 

I'm pathetic...

 

There are some things I wish I would have told him before I lef thim...like my first time with my first bf...or that my bf kept telling me in the beginning that I should not trust him...that I was gonna get hurt...and that my aunt actually told me that it was not going to last...she really told me that...I guess without realizing it it must have stayed in my head and didn't help the relationship...

 

It's friday night and I wish I was with him watching a movie or cuddling on the swing on his balcony...anyway...

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I'm in the same boat as you all. My EX came back home from being on a job duty out of state for four months along with some of her co-workers, and she was a totally different person. Things were fine before she left, when she came back she quit wearing my engagment ring, started sleeping on the couch, and going on out of town trips with friends she works with. Now WTF am I supposed to do when somebody changes into a different person. I tried talking with her when she came back, but she said I need to backoff and that I was being suspicious and clingy. Okay, so I'm left trying to figure out whats going on while she is going through whatever it is she's going through. The whole thing completely fell apart, she came back and forth (one day I love you, the next day were not a couple) so bad that I was becoming a complete nightmare emotionally. I could never get her to make up her mind on what she wanted to do, it was like she lost control of any decisions and rationale. She did claim she was going through severe depression that started out of state, but I really thought it was funny that she was calling me from nightclubs every other night while she was there.

 

I don't understand why people can't just be honest, open, and forthcoming. It would save a lot of pain and suffering if they could.

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It is hard when both parties are not on the same page or one is giving more than the other. Sometimes a simple talk will fix that. Other times it takes a breakup to wake them up. Sometimes they are just so selfish that they never come around or if they do, it is too late.

 

No offense to any of the ladies out there but my biggest frustration is hearing what a lady wants in a man/relationship and then when she has it, she loses attraction or is no longer interested. I have been in this position so many times and gotten hurt each time that I am not sure how to act anymore.

 

My latest has been 5 months of NC. There is no hope of getting back together. I gave so much to this relationship only to have my heart crushed and given back to me. I don't deserve that but I am beginning to wonder if I am just attracted to the wrong type of girl or if there are just so few out there that appreciate someone like me. It is frustrating but I refuse to change who I am as a person to gain someone's love. I may change a few areas that need improvement but not who I am as a person.

 

No Tine, you are not pathetic!!! Give him alot of space. While doing so, go out and have fun with friends and even enjoy a couple of dates. If/when he sees or hear that you have moved on and are having fun......it just might wake him up. There are many things I still would like to say to my Ex, but it would not do any good. Vent your frustrations here. At least it will make you feel better that you got them off your chest and it can't damage the situation any worse.

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<quote>No offense to any of the ladies out there but my biggest frustration is hearing what a lady wants in a man/relationship and then when she has it, she loses attraction or is no longer interested. I have been in this position so many times and gotten hurt each time that I am not sure how to act anymore.

 

My latest has been 5 months of NC. There is no hope of getting back together. I gave so much to this relationship only to have my heart crushed and given back to me. I don't deserve that but I am beginning to wonder if I am just attracted to the wrong type of girl or if there are just so few out there that appreciate someone like me. It is frustrating but I refuse to change who I am as a person to gain someone's love. I may change a few areas that need improvement but not who I am as a person.</quote>

 

Rudy, you are the man and you are right on the money. I could not agree with you more on the issue with women (not to sound biased). I gave my now EX everything that a women asks for, but I wound up in the same boat. I quickly learned that you cannot give them what they say they want, at least not completely. You wind up not being a challenge to them anymore, they get bored, and you are handed your hat. Now a true mature and mentally/emotionally stable woman would see the person you are, and your relationship would have gone on to the next level, at least that's what I believe. But for most of us, this kind of women is much harder to find than what is available, and unfortunately souls like you and I wind up on sites like this. That leaves us with a couple of options, either we become more selfish with our love and don't give into their every whim (don't take their crap), or take a lot longer to find a person that does not play into these kind of games. As for me, I've decided that I need to be completely secure with who I am, don't allow a woman to predicate how I feel or what I want to do, and give love and affection at certain times, not all the time. There are no guarantees that things will or won't work out with any relationship, it takes a lot of work on both ends and two people who understand what true love is.

 

There are some good posts on here about what true love is BTW, do a search and you will see some good stuff.

 

Also, you might take a look as http://www.askmen.com and they will point out some stuff that unfortunately, is true.

 

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Thanks Rooster. I have dated several women in the last 5 months and all have been very nice and a lot of fun. I doing so, I have made a lot of good friendships but none have been someone I see a future with. I know the best thing for me right now is to just enjoy life and taking a break from dating or any relationships until I am ready to "get back in the game".

 

I know the right person is out there for me and everyone else on this site. With patience and understanding, we will all find them eventually!

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No offense to any of the ladies out there but my biggest frustration is hearing what a lady wants in a man/relationship and then when she has it, she loses attraction or is no longer interested. I have been in this position so many times and gotten hurt each time that I am not sure how to act anymore.

 

Rudy, you are the man and you are right on the money. I could not agree with you more on the issue with women (not to sound biased). I gave my now EX everything that a women asks for, but I wound up in the same boat. I quickly learned that you cannot give them what they say they want, at least not completely. You wind up not being a challenge to them anymore, they get bored, and you are handed your hat. Now a true mature and mentally/emotionally stable woman would see the person you are, and your relationship would have gone on to the next level, at least that's what I believe.

 

 

It's not only about women :eek: ...I gave my ex everything I had too...hey! I let him drive my brand new car...that's how much i loved him ahahah!!! ;) seriously...I kept giving...and giving...and all he did was receiving and never giving anything back... I felt like I was watering my plants but they would still be dry you know...never growing flowers...never being green...

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You know, on the whole issue of giving, I've come to the realization that sometimes it's not an issue of what you gave (or didn't), or how much of it you gave, or how little, or what you should have done different, etc. Sometimes, it's just an issue of THEM not wanting what you're giving. It's inherently counterintuitive and painful at the same time because there's a logical expectation that you *should* get what you receive, but I've come to learn that there are no guarantees in relationships, and that the giving part is pretty much as much as one should expect to receive from a relationship.

 

I can think of plenty relationships where I gave very little and the other person still fell for me, despite the fact that they were giving me everything I wanted - or at least, what I thought I wanted. I think it has to do more with the person, than with what you're getting. If you love the person, it almost doesn't matter how much or little they give, you still love them anyway. And then you could meet someone who gives you everything and still you fell very little for them. It's really strange how these things work.

 

What I do know is that it's horrible waking up to realize that you gave so much to someone who felt so little for you. There is something about that realization that absolutely breaks my heart. Like it was all for nothing, you know? You end up feeling like such a fool. Like such an idiot.

 

(Wow. It's when I write things like these that I realize just how much I'm still suffering from my break up. Ugh. When will the pain go away!?)

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I hear ya LaraV - even from past heartbreaks, even though we learn soooo much and it makes us stronger and we think we've had some lessons, there is no rule book. I have given everything before and it was never enough, yet I've dated guys where I was given everything and it didn't matter. Its all about how we feel for them and how they feel for us. I think this latest heartbreak I am going thru is less about HIM this time (although I do miss him like crazy) but more about heartbreaks in general, rejection and just genuine hurt from failed relationships and dating in general. Its hard and it sucks, but its gotta be worth it somehow in the long run right. I hope so.....for all of us!! ;)

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Good post LaraV! You are so correct in what you speak. I understand very much that nothing is guaranteed in a relationship, but it's how the O/P goes about how to handle it for me. I don't have any issues with people drifting apart, breaking up, or whatever the reason is, it's just they need to be responsible with the way they handle another person.

 

People are not bad people because they want to break up with you, it's how some people keep you on a string or betray you that's the issue. They just need to explain their reasons (talk about it) and move on. Most of the breakups I have seen on this website were due to irresponsibility and/or some betraying the relationship. If my EX would have just sat down and discussed WTF was going on with her, I would'nt be such an active member of this site.:) Actually, I really don't know WTF happened to my EX (although I have my suspicions), she just did a 180 and became someone I didn't know anymore.

 

I guess my heart was more broken due to the fact that I saw the person I love so much, just disappear day by day. I don't think there is any pain worse than watching your best friend/lover slowly leave the relationship emotionally, it's a dreadful slow death.

 

Now you made the statement " What I do know is that it's horrible waking up to realize that you gave so much to someone who felt so little for you"! Are you saying that your EX did nothing and felt nothing for you? Sounds to me your story is one of a one sided relationship. With me, my EX was there and did just as much for me as I did for her the first few years, but after the honemoon was over, I noticed a gradual change.

 

I agree, when you write these things it all comes back to you and you realize what's gone. I am suffering this morning too, and sometimes it just really sucks.

 

BTW LaraV, when was your breakup?

 

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Do you think it is possible for someone who likes to gives so much to be in a relationship where they give but not reaceive much "in return"...

 

I mean...my thoughts are that if you like to give so much...do you always expect to receive back what you've given???

 

Is it possible that a relationship works between a person who gives and a person who doesn't give much...???

 

I wrote a "poem" last night and thought I could share it here... you mignt not think it's good... I know it's not the best but it made me feel so much better to write this...

 

 

It makes me mad that I was not able to keep you here beside me...

It makes me mad because you're so handsome everytime we see...

 

It makes me mad because I can't resist to me wanting to talk to you...

It makes me mad because when I have you in front of me...I just wanna kiss you

 

It makes me mad because I still have you in my thoughts everyday...

It makes me mad beaucause when I have you in front of me...I just wanna make love to you

 

It makes me mad because I would LOVE to be able to hate you...

It makes me mad beacaue I just can't lie to myself...

 

It makes me mad beaucause you make me feel like I'm crazy...

It makes me mad because I let you...

 

It makes me mad because I just simply love you...

And when our eyes meet I just can't stay mad at you....

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The only way I found to fall asleep last night was to imagine he was lying next to me... sad...but true...

 

How did this happen...I thought I was fine a week ago...!!! :mad:

 

Also...

 

Do you think it is possible for someone who likes to gives so much to be in a relationship where they give but not reaceive much "in return"...

 

I mean...my thoughts are that if you like to give so much...do you always expect to receive back what you've given???

 

Is it possible that a relationship works between a person who gives and a person who doesn't give much...???

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Good post LaraV! You are so correct in what you speak. I understand very much that nothing is guaranteed in a relationship, but it's how the O/P goes about how to handle it for me. I don't have any issues with people drifting apart, breaking up, or whatever the reason is, it's just they need to be responsible with the way they handle another person.

 

People are not bad people because they want to break up with you, it's how some people keep you on a string or betray you that's the issue. They just need to explain their reasons (talk about it) and move on. Most of the breakups I have seen on this website were due to irresponsibility and/or some betraying the relationship. If my EX would have just sat down and discussed WTF was going on with her, I would'nt be such an active member of this site.:) Actually, I really don't know WTF happened to my EX (although I have my suspicions), she just did a 180 and became someone I didn't know anymore.

 

I guess my heart was more broken due to the fact that I saw the person I love so much, just disappear day by day. I don't think there is any pain worse than watching your best friend/lover slowly leave the relationship emotionally, it's a dreadful slow death.

 

Now you made the statement " What I do know is that it's horrible waking up to realize that you gave so much to someone who felt so little for you"! Are you saying that your EX did nothing and felt nothing for you? Sounds to me your story is one of a one sided relationship. With me, my EX was there and did just as much for me as I did for her the first few years, but after the honemoon was over, I noticed a gradual change.

 

I agree, when you write these things it all comes back to you and you realize what's gone. I am suffering this morning too, and sometimes it just really sucks.

 

BTW LaraV, when was your breakup?

 

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I agree with you Rooster. Much of the pain and anger stems from the way someone else handles the break up. I've realized though that the way they do it says a lot about who they are - more than it says about us, you know? I do know, however, especially having been someone to end relationships in the past, that being the dumper is a very difficult role. In the end, who knows if there is a "right" way to dump a person, you know? Maybe honesty (as much as possible) is the way to go, but I know that full honesty can sometimes be very painful for the other person. So I just think that those leaving the relationship need to be careful, thoughtful and responsible, but to a certain extent I understand how difficult a role that is.

 

And yes, my relationship was one-sided. Mostly, it was me projecting about something that wasn't there. That's not my ex's fault at all, but my own. I should have seen from the beginning that he just wasn't that into me. Why I didn't walk away is still a question I'm puzzling over. I just can't believe I put myself in a situation in which it was so obvious he didn't care for me that much. But I forgive myself because I guess there was always enough "care" on his part to make me think that maybe one day he'd actually fall for me. Well, I guess now I know better. As to how I know that he felt so little for me? Well, he dumped me because after being away a few weeks for work he realized by "being in a different environment" that he just didn't want a relationship with me. So basically, he went away for work for a few weeks and he realized by being away from me that he didn't want to be with me. OK then. What do you say to that?! I find it funny that he said the relationship meant a lot to him. If it had actually meant that much to him, I doubt a few weeks apart would have made him realize that he didn't want to be with me. The shallowness of his "caring" for me is amazing (and utterly painful). So yeah, I am deeply hurt by this.

 

He broke up with me in June, btw. So it's only been a few months for me, so I guess I'm giving myself a break for still feeling so incredibly miserable.

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Hey you guys...I just learned this morning that my ex has a new gf...my best friend told me cuz we ran into him at school and he told her something about her and her brother that might be in some of our classes...but I didn't understand cuz I didn't know who she was... anyway

 

I feel like an idiot not finding someone new first!... as if it was a competition or something...:(

 

anyway...

 

The truth is...it surprised me a bit at first...but I'm quite ok tonight... I don't know why...

 

sometimes I wonder if I really miss him or I'm just sad and mad cuz again I was not able to keep a guy beside me...as if I'm bad in relationship or something...

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. So basically, he went away for work for a few weeks and he realized by being away from me that he didn't want to be with me.

 

Thats exactly what happed to me as well

 

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