Didn't know this was the CASE!

[Bill]

Remember how I posted about that girl that moved into her ex's house. Well, she moved in because he's not there at all (at the times she is there). They had separate rooms. Well, here is the story, and ... it is true. The mom of this guy, she has been intercepting phone calls that I made to her, telling me she was out and all when she was not etc. She of course wanted her son to have this girl. This lady is a family friend and that is why she let "Laura" stay there for a few times while her house is getting ready. Well, Laura told the mom that she had a boyfriend and all, and the mom agreed and said she would not impose. Well the mom did and basically they all made her feel as if she HAD to date him, she doesn't want to. She proved this to me tonight, by basically blowing them all off and coming over here to talk about it all. The mother was mad at her, because the mother tried to block our communication or to make me seem mean or something. Well, we finally communicated and she came over. We had a long talk about things, and she mentioned on how that guy's mother was basically shoving him at her. She is getting out of there as soon as possible because all of this is happening.

 

You have to believe this, I am telling the truth. I have checked all of this out by myself. She is getting mad at them because they keep telling her what to do. She is going to be moving to her mom's ASAP.

 

-Please trust me on this. It's all true, I checked it out.

[Tony T]

OK, I trust you. I believe you. This is one weird bunch of people.

 

Are there any just plane nice, normal men who aren't wimps around your town with moms who aren't fruitcakes and who don't push their sons onto women against their will?

[yes]

It all sounds strange...... why can't she live with you for a couple days if she's so desperate for a roof over her head?

Remember how I posted about that girl that moved into her ex's house. Well, she moved in because he's not there at all (at the times she is there). They had separate rooms. Well, here is the story, and ... it is true. The mom of this guy, she has been intercepting phone calls that I made to her, telling me she was out and all when she was not etc. She of course wanted her son to have this girl. This lady is a family friend and that is why she let "Laura" stay there for a few times while her house is getting ready. Well, Laura told the mom that she had a boyfriend and all, and the mom agreed and said she would not impose. Well the mom did and basically they all made her feel as if she HAD to date him, she doesn't want to. She proved this to me tonight, by basically blowing them all off and coming over here to talk about it all. The mother was mad at her, because the mother tried to block our communication or to make me seem mean or something. Well, we finally communicated and she came over. We had a long talk about things, and she mentioned on how that guy's mother was basically shoving him at her. She is getting out of there as soon as possible because all of this is happening.

 

You have to believe this, I am telling the truth. I have checked all of this out by myself. She is getting mad at them because they keep telling her what to do. She is going to be moving to her mom's ASAP. -Please trust me on this. It's all true, I checked it out.

[Bill]

Ah, but if you are referring to me about being a wimp I assure you I am not. I know that all seems hard to believe, but it was weird when I found it out too. I just know I have to get her out of that house soon. I can't imagine what the mom is thinking now that she went out with me tonight!

OK, I trust you. I believe you. This is one weird bunch of people. Are there any just plane nice, normal men who aren't wimps around your town with moms who aren't fruitcakes and who don't push their sons onto women against their will?

[clia]

I believe you, but I just find it hard to believe that she had NOWHERE else to go than his house. Doesn't she have any girlfriends? Friends of the family? You said before she was moving into her mom's on Tuesday. That's tomorrow. Hope it happens. Why didn't she tell you this before? What did she have to hide if she wasn't interested? Why did she cancel plans with you? Why did she not see you when she said she would? Just because she's "come up" with the truth, don't be so easy to just fall for it. I'd listen to it all with a critical ear and be careful if I were you. I'd love to believe her wholeheartedly, but something's rotten in Denmark, if you ask me.

Remember how I posted about that girl that moved into her ex's house. Well, she moved in because he's not there at all (at the times she is there). They had separate rooms. Well, here is the story, and ... it is true. The mom of this guy, she has been intercepting phone calls that I made to her, telling me she was out and all when she was not etc. She of course wanted her son to have this girl. This lady is a family friend and that is why she let "Laura" stay there for a few times while her house is getting ready. Well, Laura told the mom that she had a boyfriend and all, and the mom agreed and said she would not impose. Well the mom did and basically they all made her feel as if she HAD to date him, she doesn't want to. She proved this to me tonight, by basically blowing them all off and coming over here to talk about it all. The mother was mad at her, because the mother tried to block our communication or to make me seem mean or something. Well, we finally communicated and she came over. We had a long talk about things, and she mentioned on how that guy's mother was basically shoving him at her. She is getting out of there as soon as possible because all of this is happening.

 

You have to believe this, I am telling the truth. I have checked all of this out by myself. She is getting mad at them because they keep telling her what to do. She is going to be moving to her mom's ASAP. -Please trust me on this. It's all true, I checked it out.

[Bill]

Her ex's mom is a friend of her mom and they already had a room for her, a separate room in the house. She did not want to impose on me after only a month. She told the mom not to impose on our relationship, and the lady agreed, but she obviously started stuff now. She even called her family while she was at my house trying to get back into her own house. She will be moving asap.

It all sounds strange...... why can't she live with you for a couple days if she's so desperate for a roof over her head?

[Tony T]

So sorry...I just sort of twisted up your post. I'll come back when I've had some good rest. Didn't mean to imply you were a wimp at all.

[Bill]

This is actually the truth. She doesn't have many friends that live around here anymore since her one friend moved away. The closest friend of the family lives about 50 miles away, so she'd barely see me if she went there, if at all. I hope she moves in soon too. She's moving in asap. I might have gotten the date wrong, but I know it's within days, or even tomorrow. She canceled with me because they all made her go out with them, The mom took her out. She was basically forced out of the house that night with the mom. I can just imagine what they are trying to tell her right now.

I believe you, but I just find it hard to believe that she had NOWHERE else to go than his house. Doesn't she have any girlfriends? Friends of the family? You said before she was moving into her mom's on Tuesday. That's tomorrow. Hope it happens. Why didn't she tell you this before? What did she have to hide if she wasn't interested? Why did she cancel plans with you? Why did she not see you when she said she would? Just because she's "come up" with the truth, don't be so easy to just fall for it. I'd listen to it all with a critical ear and be careful if I were you. I'd love to believe her wholeheartedly, but something's rotten in Denmark, if you ask me.

[Bill]

It's ok Tony, my posts may have been misleading.

 

I do value all of your opinions whether negative or positive, but I just had to tell you all about tonight. I just hope she can shake these people off her and move ASAP.

So sorry...I just sort of twisted up your post. I'll come back when I've had some good rest. Didn't mean to imply you were a wimp at all.

[clia]

So I take it you now have a date for Thursday night? Don't let her out of this one...

This is actually the truth. She doesn't have many friends that live around here anymore since her one friend moved away. The closest friend of the family lives about 50 miles away, so she'd barely see me if she went there, if at all. I hope she moves in soon too. She's moving in asap. I might have gotten the date wrong, but I know it's within days, or even tomorrow. She canceled with me because they all made her go out with them, The mom took her out. She was basically forced out of the house that night with the mom. I can just imagine what they are trying to tell her right now.

[Laurynn]

Bill, I hope you don't think I'm being hard on you here, but I just have to speak up. I've refrained from responding to your posts (saga) in the past because I figured that whatever I'd say would hurt your feelings..you seem like a pretty sensitive guy..but I can't hold it in any longer.

 

First of all, I think you are WAY TOO INTENSE about this girl. If you come across to her, the way you come across (about her) here, she's probably freaked right out. You've only been dating her a month and you're already in love and had even asked her to move in with you (if she couldn't find other accomodations)?....and when you found out she was living at ex's house, you came here and were close to threatening suicide..or saying you hoped you didn't wake up in the morning, that you basically didn't want to go on living......DUDE, wake up!! You sound obsessed and very clingy. It's soooo unhealthy. Don't you have any life other than this girl? Don't you have friends? Interests? Hobbies? a part time job? Family?

 

Secondly....why are you even HERE trying to convince us that you've now found out "the truth"..no offense but YOU are the only one who has to be concerned about the 'truth', not any of us here.

 

Thirdly, you are trying SO DAMN HARD to convince yourself that this dame is on the up and up. Are you desperate? Is she the last chick on earth? Read your posts a few times and see how pussy whipped and desperate you sound......plus, desperate to believe she's not jerking your around.

 

Don't be naive. This other guy's mom didn't FORCE her to go out Friday night.....unless she put a gun to her head, which I'm sure she didn't. Nobody FORCED her to change her plans with you at the last minute...........if she cared about you and respected you and HAD NO FEELINGS for this other guy, she would have kept her plans.

 

She's made excuse after excuse to you from the first time you started posting here. Do you even KNOW FOR SURE that her mom has CANCER? (that one almost sounds like the old "sorry I have to break my date but my Grandma died")....and if she was planning to move back in with her Dying Mom, why the hell didn't she just pick up and move in there IMMEDIATELY? What's all this crap about her having to go from place to place to place and all this packing? Does she have a full home of furniture and 30 years of belongings and keepsakes and tupperware and canned goods? (I'm assuming she's young, like very early 20's)

 

If my Mom was dying of cancer, I'd be moved in within a day......and frankly, I'd probably be so stressed and sad, I wouldn't even have TIME to think about dating someone.

 

You seriously need to wake up, grab some balls and smell the coffee. Nobody FORCED her to go live at her ex's place.....are you positive he even lives there with his parents?

 

I'd bet the farm on the fact that she's just jerking you around...and giving you all sorts of BS excuses....cuz she's maybe not sure about her other guy, but wants to keep you hanging around, like a lost little puppy, should things with him fall through.

 

STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR HER BEHAVIOR..and get this "woe is me" chip off your shoulder......about the fact that your g/f before her cheated on you. Millions of people have been cheated on, and dumped and left heartbroken..that's part of life. That doesn't mean that if you find someone else, you must hold onto them for dear life and make them the CENTER of your world.

 

I really suggest you get some therapy cuz you're in major denial and you sound extremely insecure, possessive, obsessive and neurotic.

[Laurynn]

"I just know I have to get her out of that house soon. I can't imagine what the mom is thinking now that she went out with me tonight!"

 

Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Since when did you become RESPONSIBLE for getting her out of that house? Are you her Dad? No. Are you her brother? No. Are you her legal guardian? No. Unless this Mother and Ex put a gun to her head and forced her to move in there, she is there because she WANTS TO BE THERE. Which also means she can leave when she WANTS TO LEAVE.

 

This whole story about the Mom wanting her sonny boy to be with her is something straight out of the National Enquirer. It doesn't even make sense.

 

Why doesn't this girl have a job? Does she just go around, from day to day, finding free places to live? (didn't you say once that she doesn't go to school OR work?).....sounds like a freeloader to me. You want to be with a girl who can't even get off her ass and support herself?

 

And again.....if the plan was for her to move in with her Dying Mom, why didn't she just move STRAIGHT THERE? What's the need for all these 'pit stops' along the way?

 

And I assure you wholeheartedly....if she told you stories about what a jerk this guy was, but is now there living with him, she's either:

 

a) a few fries short of a Happy Meal, and a hypocrite...for bashing someone yet using them for a place to stay (and no doubt leading them to believe she's still interested)

 

b) you are a few fries short of a Happy Meal, for believing all this crap.

 

So do you have concrete proof that her Mom is dying of cancer? Have you ever even met the woman? Why isn't she in the hospital if she's dying? So she has nursing staff caring for her at home, during her last days? Why isn't your dear g/f there with her NOW?

 

L

[Gweedo]

Really, Bill, listen to Laurynn. She is right on the money. And don't take it personally. You really just need to get your priorities straight. Just think about it a while anyway.

Bill, I hope you don't think I'm being hard on you here, but I just have to speak up. I've refrained from responding to your posts (saga) in the past because I figured that whatever I'd say would hurt your feelings..you seem like a pretty sensitive guy..but I can't hold it in any longer. First of all, I think you are WAY TOO INTENSE about this girl. If you come across to her, the way you come across (about her) here, she's probably freaked right out. You've only been dating her a month and you're already in love and had even asked her to move in with you (if she couldn't find other accomodations)?....and when you found out she was living at ex's house, you came here and were close to threatening suicide..or saying you hoped you didn't wake up in the morning, that you basically didn't want to go on living......DUDE, wake up!! You sound obsessed and very clingy. It's soooo unhealthy. Don't you have any life other than this girl? Don't you have friends? Interests? Hobbies? a part time job? Family? Secondly....why are you even HERE trying to convince us that you've now found out "the truth"..no offense but YOU are the only one who has to be concerned about the 'truth', not any of us here. Thirdly, you are trying SO DAMN HARD to convince yourself that this dame is on the up and up. Are you desperate? Is she the last chick on earth? Read your posts a few times and see how pussy whipped and desperate you sound......plus, desperate to believe she's not jerking your around. Don't be naive. This other guy's mom didn't FORCE her to go out Friday night.....unless she put a gun to her head, which I'm sure she didn't. Nobody FORCED her to change her plans with you at the last minute...........if she cared about you and respected you and HAD NO FEELINGS for this other guy, she would have kept her plans.

 

She's made excuse after excuse to you from the first time you started posting here. Do you even KNOW FOR SURE that her mom has CANCER? (that one almost sounds like the old "sorry I have to break my date but my Grandma died")....and if she was planning to move back in with her Dying Mom, why the hell didn't she just pick up and move in there IMMEDIATELY? What's all this crap about her having to go from place to place to place and all this packing? Does she have a full home of furniture and 30 years of belongings and keepsakes and tupperware and canned goods? (I'm assuming she's young, like very early 20's) If my Mom was dying of cancer, I'd be moved in within a day......and frankly, I'd probably be so stressed and sad, I wouldn't even have TIME to think about dating someone. You seriously need to wake up, grab some balls and smell the coffee. Nobody FORCED her to go live at her ex's place.....are you positive he even lives there with his parents? I'd bet the farm on the fact that she's just jerking you around...and giving you all sorts of BS excuses....cuz she's maybe not sure about her other guy, but wants to keep you hanging around, like a lost little puppy, should things with him fall through. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR HER BEHAVIOR..and get this "woe is me" chip off your shoulder......about the fact that your g/f before her cheated on you. Millions of people have been cheated on, and dumped and left heartbroken..that's part of life. That doesn't mean that if you find someone else, you must hold onto them for dear life and make them the CENTER of your world. I really suggest you get some therapy cuz you're in major denial and you sound extremely insecure, possessive, obsessive and neurotic.

[Bill]

This does make sense about the mom wanting that because I accidently IM'd the MOM! The mom was quite rude and said that he was her boyfriend now and all. She told me to stop messaging and all. She also got mad when I called a few days ago to talk to this girl. She is getting a job and going back to school. She could not move in with her mom because her sister's husband that is very mean to her is there. I'm not going to explain how he is mean, but I met him and he is. I have met her mom and confirmed that she is dying of cancer. I am trying my best here to work out lots of details. She is moving home ASAP.

"I just know I have to get her out of that house soon. I can't imagine what the mom is thinking now that she went out with me tonight!"

 

Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Since when did you become RESPONSIBLE for getting her out of that house? Are you her Dad? No. Are you her brother? No. Are you her legal guardian? No. Unless this Mother and Ex put a gun to her head and forced her to move in there, she is there because she WANTS TO BE THERE. Which also means she can leave when she WANTS TO LEAVE. This whole story about the Mom wanting her sonny boy to be with her is something straight out of the National Enquirer. It doesn't even make sense. Why doesn't this girl have a job? Does she just go around, from day to day, finding free places to live? (didn't you say once that she doesn't go to school OR work?).....sounds like a freeloader to me. You want to be with a girl who can't even get off her ass and support herself?

 

And again.....if the plan was for her to move in with her Dying Mom, why didn't she just move STRAIGHT THERE? What's the need for all these 'pit stops' along the way? And I assure you wholeheartedly....if she told you stories about what a jerk this guy was, but is now there living with him, she's either:

 

a) a few fries short of a Happy Meal, and a hypocrite...for bashing someone yet using them for a place to stay (and no doubt leading them to believe she's still interested) b) you are a few fries short of a Happy Meal, for believing all this crap. So do you have concrete proof that her Mom is dying of cancer? Have you ever even met the woman? Why isn't she in the hospital if she's dying? So she has nursing staff caring for her at home, during her last days? Why isn't your dear g/f there with her NOW? L

[velvet]

I relalize your going through a sense of relief. But have you considered how you will feel when she breaks contact with you again.

 

This is not going to be a fun ride for you. She sounds like trouble. You shouldnt be so sympothetic of her right now. She put you through pain over the last several days you can at least play hard to get. Be a little cold toward her. I would give her the inclination that you could give a s**t.

 

I turned a friendship with someone for a decade into a romantic r/s and he ended up jerking me around. I never thought he would be so cold towards me, all I wanted was for him to be my baby and love me. But he has issues and baggage that has turned our r/s in to a potential nothing.

 

So when you think you know someone, that person can being playing you without a care. She is out for herself, and she doesnt care who she hurts along the way. What is her ex going through right now. Maybe you should talk to him, to find out more about her.

 

I hope you know what you can be getting yourslef into. Listen to you intuition and dont let her take an atom of advantage of you.

 

OK, I trust you. I believe you. This is one weird bunch of people. Are there any just plane nice, normal men who aren't wimps around your town with moms who aren't fruitcakes and who don't push their sons onto women against their will?

[Laurynn]

Bill,

 

How in tarnation do you know for SURE that it was the "MOM" that you were IM'ing with? Maybe it was the 'guy' pretending to be his Mom? Anybody can pretend to be anyone online. And how does one go about accidentally IM'ing someone they don't even know? You saying you were IM'ing your ex/g/f/whatever, and this "Mom" just happened to start typing to you? Or what, the Mom added you to her Buddy List/vice versa?

 

Frankly, Bill, they all sound the like the Beverly Hillbillies....this one lives with this one, this married one lives with Mom, this one is living with a friend. Sheesh!

 

And this bit about sister's hubby being mean to her, and that being the reason she can't move in with her Mom yet....what's up with that? Why would her Mom/sister put up with that crap?

 

This is more indepth than Days of Our Lives!

[Bill]

It is the mom's computer that she used for IMing. She left the IM on and I thought it was HER, not the guy's mom

 

Her mom can't pay for the house herself, so that guy is helping until HE moves out and this girl's SISTER moves in to help out the mom.

 

It is a complicated story, and I will wait till I get more details on what is going to happen.

Bill, How in tarnation do you know for SURE that it was the "MOM" that you were IM'ing with? Maybe it was the 'guy' pretending to be his Mom? Anybody can pretend to be anyone online. And how does one go about accidentally IM'ing someone they don't even know? You saying you were IM'ing your ex/g/f/whatever, and this "Mom" just happened to start typing to you? Or what, the Mom added you to her Buddy List/vice versa?

 

Frankly, Bill, they all sound the like the Beverly Hillbillies....this one lives with this one, this married one lives with Mom, this one is living with a friend. Sheesh! And this bit about sister's hubby being mean to her, and that being the reason she can't move in with her Mom yet....what's up with that? Why would her Mom/sister put up with that crap? This is more indepth than Days of Our Lives!

[Bill]

I guess she has truly given up on me now, even though last night she said she wanted to see me again asap. She even said that things would change when she moved back with her mom Sunday.

 

She told her "b/f" the things we did when we were together... AKA SEX... Well he dumped her immediately. She obviously wants to take his abuse because she emailed me saying that she can NO LONGER see me ever again because it will hurt him, even though she wants to. I realize this was her first boyfriend that that IS WHY she won't break with him, even though he has done s***TY things.

 

She told me some of the bad qualities...

 

I will list them.

 

She can't trust him at all.

 

He was in the military and came back with pictures of russian prostitues that he proudly hangs on his walls.

 

He expects her to give him a BJ if he buys her stuff.

 

He expects then to get "3" of them a day.

 

He can't please her in that area at all.

 

He ignores her.

 

He sometimes goes out with his friends instead when they have dates planned.

 

He is 22 and has a bad job, lives with his parents, and has no future plans.

 

He is downright mean to her a lot.

 

He doesn't treat her well at all.

 

A lot of people in her family hate him.

 

He considers this a "game" and that I was "late in the game"

 

He does DJing in strip joints.

 

and many more...

 

Well I guess that is what she wants. I really hate that I was dumped for the second time in 2 months, even though she said I was perfect, she's gonna go for the F$ckup.

 

Well, I'll go with the saying that everyone has told me.

 

"Nice guys finish last"

 

THAT IS THE TRUTH, maybe I should'nt be nice anymore?

[clia]

I hate to say I told you so...this girl is playing you up and down the block. No matter what she says from here on out, please don't believe her. You can think this guy is the biggest jerk on the face of the earth, however, she still chose him. It'll be her mistake in the long run.

 

Now, why don't you take a step back and look at this from a different perspective. You listed a number of "qualities" that this guy has. Now look at them in a different way. Pretend you are describing this girl. Replace the "he's" with "she's". Here are the ones I think apply:

I will list them. She can't trust him at all. He ignores her. He sometimes goes out with his friends instead when they have dates planned. He is 22 and has a bad job, lives with his parents, and has no future plans. He is downright mean to her a lot. He doesn't treat her well at all.

Congratulations! You have succeeded in perfectly describing this girl. Now, remind us again why she's so great?

 

I don't believe at all that nice guys finish last. Being nice doesn't mean letting people walk all over you and treat you like crap. You can be nice without being a wimp. Girls just want guys who are strong and confident people.

 

I think it in your best interest to lose this girl's e-mail, IM, and phone number and move on with your life.

[Bill]

I just hope there is a girl out there that will be nice to me as I am to her.

 

Thanks for the help

I hate to say I told you so...this girl is playing you up and down the block. No matter what she says from here on out, please don't believe her. You can think this guy is the biggest jerk on the face of the earth, however, she still chose him. It'll be her mistake in the long run. Now, why don't you take a step back and look at this from a different perspective. You listed a number of "qualities" that this guy has. Now look at them in a different way. Pretend you are describing this girl. Replace the "he's" with "she's". Here are the ones I think apply: Congratulations! You have succeeded in perfectly describing this girl. Now, remind us again why she's so great? I don't believe at all that nice guys finish last. Being nice doesn't mean letting people walk all over you and treat you like crap. You can be nice without being a wimp. Girls just want guys who are strong and confident people. I think it in your best interest to lose this girl's e-mail, IM, and phone number and move on with your life.

[Gweedo]

Bill

 

Listen to Clia. I've been following your posts for several days and everyone has been telling you the same thing, but for some reason you don't listen. Pay attention! This girl has been treating you like total crap and you keep going back for more. Show some backbone and STOP contacting her. Don't return her calls, nothing. And move on. Trust me. This is for the best, even if it hurts right now. You'll get over it and over her. And there IS someone else out there for you...

I hate to say I told you so...this girl is playing you up and down the block. No matter what she says from here on out, please don't believe her. You can think this guy is the biggest jerk on the face of the earth, however, she still chose him. It'll be her mistake in the long run. Now, why don't you take a step back and look at this from a different perspective. You listed a number of "qualities" that this guy has. Now look at them in a different way. Pretend you are describing this girl. Replace the "he's" with "she's". Here are the ones I think apply: Congratulations! You have succeeded in perfectly describing this girl. Now, remind us again why she's so great? I don't believe at all that nice guys finish last. Being nice doesn't mean letting people walk all over you and treat you like crap. You can be nice without being a wimp. Girls just want guys who are strong and confident people. I think it in your best interest to lose this girl's e-mail, IM, and phone number and move on with your life.

[Miss Mojo]

hi bill,

 

nice guys will finish last if they put up with idiotic women like this one. nice guys will get what they want if they stand their ground and don't let themselves be used as a doormat. if being an arseho!e means getting a partner like her, then i don't ever want to be an arseho!e.

 

she just loves a good old fashioned head game, eh? she's playing head games with you about her ex-boyfriend and she's also playing head games with her ex-boyfriend about the sex life she shared with you.

 

i wouldn't trust this chick as far as i could throw her. bill, i'm really sorry to sound so blunt and i know you're hurting, but this woman is a class-a crazy b!tch.

 

you are 100 times more deserving and better than anything she could ever give you. and all she's given you lately is grief. what a charmer.

 

the fact is, she's not the person you thought she was. you're probably reeling over the loss of someone you thought existed, who obviously didn't really. the girl you thought was so great, would not have done this at all if she really was that great.

 

we all hate being dumped. it really crushes our egos. but you are so lucky she dumped you. yes, you heard right....

 

L-U-C-K-Y. you have been dumped by an inconsiderate, dishonest chick. it could be worse...you could have been dumped by the sweetest, most thoughtful, emotionally balanced chick.

 

think about it bill....she has just done you a huge favour. you should send her a thank you card.

 

best wishes