alphamale Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 The problem is when you get average women thinking they're above average. then they need to hook up with the avg dudes who think they are above avg. 'tis always better to think too highly of one's self than too low. Link to post Share on other sites
Almost Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I'm going to get slammed for this but so be it. If you're an "average" man going for an above average woman, YES you will be rejected 95% of the time. HINT: Average men who stick to average women have a MUCH better success rate. The same thing goes for average and/or fat women who go for tall, active, in shape guys. The problem is that everyone thinks they are above average when they are not. Everyone wants to find some hottie that is better looking than they are. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 The same thing goes for average and/or fat women who go for tall, active, in shape guys. . If I had a nickel for every ugly fat cow I've seen with a good looking dude I'd have $1,000. For some reason there are many more men willing to lower their standards than women. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 The same thing goes for average and/or fat women who go for tall, active, in shape guys. The problem is that everyone thinks they are above average when they are not. Everyone wants to find some hottie that is better looking than they are. I agree with you and I agree with every one else here who commented on my comments on this. Thing is some of us really CAN get the better ones and some of us can't. And guess what? It doesn't all have to do with looks! Can you believe that? OR money! I know...shocking isn't it? Oh and Tan...I never EVER said I was above average. But yeah...I can and have gotten above average men. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 If I had a nickel for every ugly fat cow I've seen with a good looking dude I'd have $1,000. For some reason there are many more men willing to lower their standards than women. Not true...most of those "good looking dudes" have the WORST personalities..I mean the WORST...trust me..I know. I was lucky enough to find the whole package but when I was younger it got to the point where I RAN when I saw a really good looking guy because they usually sucked. And I can name (but I won't) two Hollywood stars who fell into that category...good looking but so f'ed up I couldn't take more than one date with either one of them! So think twice when you think those good looking dudes are "settling." Usually they end up with the best they can get..."it's not for nuthin'"as they say! Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Well, I know. You CAN'T win. You're a BYTCH if you are honest... That only happened in clubs though, is not like guys ask me for numbers all the time either. Usually I never had a problem. If I didn't give them the number they'd give me theirs, like your husband did. Except for that incident (some Middle Eastern guy) that got mad. Ariadne Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedGirl Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hate to agree with you but I must. This has been true for me and and all of my experiences as a single female. Yes, I rejected most "average" men. I was never into average men. I'm going to get slammed for this but so be it. If you're an "average" man going for an above average woman, YES you will be rejected 95% of the time. HINT: Average men who stick to average women have a MUCH better success rate. I 100% agree. Men usually hit on women that are way out of their legaue. Very often there are below average men who hit on hot women. Of course you are going to get rejected. Simple fact is, work out where you are on the looks scale (be realistic) and go for someone similar, study after study has proven that relationships work out better with couples of similar attractivness. Note on playing hard to get: this more like an urban myth that men like to beleive. If a girl is interested in you, she will make it obvious. If she tells you "no" to the number, best thing to do is offer her yours and move on. If she is even 1% interested she is going to call. Don't bother pastering her further, you only come across as desparate. You know that book "He is just not that into you"? Well it works other way around too. Substistute "he" for "she". When it comes to rejectinng someone I think both sexes are equally spineless. So no need to attack girls. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Well, I know. You CAN'T win. You're a BYTCH if you are honest... That only happened in clubs though, is not like guys ask me for numbers all the time either. Usually I never had a problem. If I didn't give them the number they'd give me theirs, like your husband did. Except for that incident (some Middle Eastern guy) that got mad. Ariadne Ha ha! Well what do you expect from a Middle Eastern guy? LOL! Ok, sorry all you Middle Eastern guys, I'm kidding! (Or am I?) Link to post Share on other sites
Almost Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Check out this new book: [/url]Unhooked Generation: The Truth About Why We're Still Single (Hardcover) by Jillian Straus (Author) Looks pretty good, I think I'm going to get it. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I 100% agree. Men usually hit on women that are way out of their legaue. Very often there are below average men who hit on hot women. Of course you are going to get rejected. Simple fact is, work out where you are on the looks scale (be realistic) and go for someone similar, study after study has proven that relationships work out better with couples of similar attractivness. Note on playing hard to get: this more like an urban myth that men like to beleive. If a girl is interested in you, she will make it obvious. If she tells you "no" to the number, best thing to do is offer her yours and move on. If she is even 1% interested she is going to call. Don't bother pastering her further, you only come across as desparate. You know that book "He is just not that into you"? Well it works other way around too. Substistute "he" for "she". When it comes to rejectinng someone I think both sexes are equally spineless. So no need to attack girls. YEP!!!!! Totally agree! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Not true...most of those "good looking dudes" have the WORST personalities..I mean the WORST...trust me..I know. I was lucky enough to find the whole package but when I was younger it got to the point where I RAN when I saw a really good looking guy because they usually sucked. And I can name (but I won't) two Hollywood stars who fell into that category...good looking but so f'ed up I couldn't take more than one date with either one of them! So think twice when you think those good looking dudes are "settling." Usually they end up with the best they can get..."it's not for nuthin'"as they say! Word on that. ...most can't think beyond their hair. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Men usually hit on women that are way out of their legaue. Very often there are below average men who hit on hot women. Of course you are going to get rejected. Simple fact is, work out where you are on the looks scale (be realistic) and go for someone similar Why wouldn't we ?.. marrying up is something everybody tries to do. I am an average looking male.. but I have never had an average looking gf or wife. They have all been hotties.. some real hot. ( blondes ) I always look for the woman that I'm attracted to.. I certainly don't look just for hot women.. For the record it isn't about your looks getting the above average girl It is all about your moves and your personality.. Link to post Share on other sites
Almost Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 For the record it isn't about your looks getting the above average girl It is all about your moves and your personality.. Dam* it, will someone please just tell me what these moves are already!!??!! What are all these secret moves that I apparently don't know about? My personality is good enough I think, but I don't know or have any of the right moves. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I am an average looking male.. but I have never had an average looking gf or wife. They have all been hotties.. some real hot. ( blondes ).. thats cause you have money brother Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 thats cause you have money brother haha.. I like to think it is my jokes I think that does help.. maybe not the money part.. but the stable life/job part.. Women have always been attracted to me because I'm a business owner.. I have always believed it was the stabilty part not the money part of it that they were attracted to To me I exude more stabilty than money.. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Ok, here's what it was for me Almost. Yes, I was physically attracted to my husband but it was SO much more than that. He asked if he could help me move because when we first met I told him I was moving within a week, (out of my parent's place into my apt.) He didn't even know me and offered to do that. I declined and didn't even call him until AFTER I had moved but I was impressed with that. On our first date, I found out that his stepdad had died 3 weeks before we met. The stepdad whom HE took in. He was in a wheelchair and needed assistance with bathing and eating, etc. None of his FOUR sisters took him in and he had no other family. He didn't put him in a nursing home but took care of him himself. I could go on and on about his character. He never bragged. He never tooted his own horn. He was just telling me about his life. And I was VERY impressed. THOSE were his "moves." His life...his character, and his morals and values...all of those things were his "moves." He sees the good in people...doesn't see or dwell on the bad. I admire that. His letting me get to know and love his CHARACTER is what I would say were my husband's "moves." He never pushed himself on me. He never told me how messed up I was (and at the time I really WAS!) and he never pressured me in any way. He was loving and caring and a friend...still is. And when we were falling in love, he didn't play games. He told me he was falling in love with me. He told me that he could see us spending our lives together. He told me that we would be a good team...and he was right. He encouraged me to pursue my dream of a college education when I was close to giving up. He was and is my coach, my best friend and my lover. He has always brought out the BEST in me. So what do you think? Do you think you have "all the right moves?" Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hey Touche, He was and is my coach, my best friend and my lover. He has always brought out the BEST in me. Aww... so nice... Touche, did you move to the small town after all? Ariadne Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hey Touche, He was and is my coach, my best friend and my lover. He has always brought out the BEST in me. Aww... so nice... Touche, did you move to the small town after all? Ariadne No ariadne. I'm SOOOOO frustrated. I HATE real estate agents. I almost started a thread in the rants section and I don't want to hi-jack this one. They are the WORST! I could go on and on. I hate them! No, we haven't moved yet. Still trying to sell our house... :( Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Still trying to sell our house... :( (Oh, ok, must be tough to leave the house where you got married, your son was born and grew up, and the veggies are, behind... stressss.... it better be good... sorry Guest) Ariadne Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Yes, it's very hard. But it's something we must do to secure our future and realize our dreams. Link to post Share on other sites
Almost Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 So what do you think? Do you think you have "all the right moves?" That all sounds great Touche. Not exactly what I was expecting. However I feel like I do and talk about stuff like that a lot. I mean, I don't have a step dad I've taken in or anything. But I do stuff like offer to help move, volunteer for this and that, try to be a good listener, etc. I don't know. All the stuff you talk about to me sounds like a good receipe for being good friends, but not necessarily lovers. Somewhere along the line somebody says something and/or does something that turns a platonic friendship like relationship into a romantic lover type relationship. At some point he must have made a "move" on you, or you on him, that took your relationship to the next level and defined it as being something more than just friends. Link to post Share on other sites
hopeto Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 that is a is no question. some women/girls are bad to do that. he is what I did only because I did not want to hurt anyones feelings. I am 32 well 33 cause my b-day is today but when I was your age I hated to hurt feelings and I am still that way today. if I was out at the club or the hang outs and a guy asked me for my number, if I was not intrested I would just give them a fake number. I knew chances are meeting up with him again were slim to none. I left knowing I did not hurt his feelings and he left thinking he scored a number. I am sure that when he finds out it is not my number he would just blow it off. I dunno but I did not have to see him be upset. hope I helped. p.s. did you try the number??? if you have not then call it and if it is her number then strike a conversation. if it is not then you will know it was not her. if you dont know her number then I think you are just out of luck. so try the next one. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hey, Just to give you all an update; I finally got the nerve to call her up and the number she gave me was fake. I kinda wish she would've let me know she didn't want to give me her number...but anyways... just thought i'd give you guys a heads up. Thanks for your advice everyone Link to post Share on other sites
kjl933 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 If I had a nickel for every ugly fat cow I've seen with a good looking dude I'd have $1,000. For some reason there are many more men willing to lower their standards than women. That reason is located at the convergence of the right and left legs. Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I finally got the nerve to call her up and the number she gave me was fake. Argh, sorry guest guy. Well, it seems like it's common to get a bunch of fake numbers around here. Ariadne Link to post Share on other sites
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