lindya Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Great post Lindya! I must have thought so too, give that I posted it twice. How did that happen? I think women are starting to think more like men. They are more aware of their sexually than ever before. Also with so many women being financially successful they no longer have to "act nice" because their man is paying all their bills. They can do what they want so if they aren't happy with a relationship they move on. Women like men are looking for passion and excitment too. I really think it's going to get worse. Women these days want it all, especially if they can afford it. Actually, when you put it like that I realise that things aren't so bad after all. Hooray for feminism!! Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I think women are starting to think more like men. They are more aware of their sexually than ever before. Also with so many women being financially successful they no longer have to "act nice" because their man is paying all their bills. They can do what they want so if they aren't happy with a relationship they move on. Women like men are looking for passion and excitment too. I really think it's going to get worse. Women these days want it all, especially if they can afford it. Really, not all women, some women just want the love of a good man that is right for them. For me I am not looking for it all just for love, with a dose of honesty and trust. But just like some of us, I was lied to and told he was single, when infact he is married. He is a man that I would do anything for, but at the same time I feel bad about this whole thing. When I think about him I have butterflys and feel sick at the same time. It is really starting to get to me that I am sharing the person that I love with someone else. Why can't it just be easy? I just don't get it... Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom Now Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I think women are starting to think more like men. They are more aware of their sexually than ever before. Also with so many women being financially successful they no longer have to "act nice" because their man is paying all their bills. They can do what they want so if they aren't happy with a relationship they move on. Women like men are looking for passion and excitment too. I really think it's going to get worse. Women these days want it all, especially if they can afford it. I think this is it in a nutshell. It isn't that women don't know what they want, rather they know EXACTLY what they want and they don't want nor need to settle. And I, personally, don't see a problem with refusing to settle. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Rooster_DAR Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 I think this is it in a nutshell. It isn't that women don't know what they want, rather they know EXACTLY what they want and they don't want nor need to settle. And I, personally, don't see a problem with refusing to settle. It is a problem when they have commited themselves to a realtionship already. This is what this thread is all about. The problem is they drag the man through commitment, then through hell as they decide it's not what they want. A better approach would be to date several men first, find what you are looking for and base your commitent on what you are looking for and then make the commitment. I'm not here to bash feminism, just to make the point that there is are big problems with commitment in America. People promise something they cannot hold up to, and lead people to believe they are commited when actually they are not. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom Now Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Point taken. Link to post Share on other sites
IpAncA Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I'm so glad you started this thread. I think our society now a days is just messed up and a lot of people just think to much with their a$$. The big thing is that majority of people think of themselves and there is just to much me me me or I I I. I also think a little of it has to do with how you are raised. My family pretty much shoved down me to go to school, get a good job so I can support myself (Me again) and then go and find someone. That's probably the dumbest thing that I could have done for myself because one the reasons for going to school is to date and meet someone and then get a good job. Not get a good job and then see what the left overs are. Lol! Wow that sounded bad. Sorry guys. I think that women do know what they want and it is to be independent and not to settle and you can blame society for that. But not all women are like that and the half way decent ones (not all) most likely have already been picked up by other men and the ones that are left over have to contend with this single non settleing women era. I feel sorry for guys I really do and I don't think that its fare and thats part of the reason why I believe marriage only has a 50/50 chance of lasting. To many people don't settle and when they do they can't give up some of their selfish attitudes. I don't know about anyone else here but I would have enjoyed growing up back in the early years when getting married and dating meant something and it was something to look forward to doing. Don't bash me to hard here because this is just how I feel about this whole dang thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Rooster_DAR Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 I don't know about anyone else here but I would have enjoyed growing up back in the early years when getting married and dating meant something and it was something to look forward to doing. Don't bash me to hard here because this is just how I feel about this whole dang thing I could not agree with your more on this. Excellent! Link to post Share on other sites
norajane Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 My family pretty much shoved down me to go to school, get a good job so I can support myself (Me again) and then go and find someone. That's probably the dumbest thing that I could have done for myself because one the reasons for going to school is to date and meet someone and then get a good job. Not get a good job and then see what the left overs are. Lol! Wow that sounded bad. Sorry guys. Amen to that. I totally get what you're saying. Stupid me, to spend my time in college getting an excellent education and then a good job. Stupid me for adding to my idiocy by going on to graduate school and getting an even better job. And then an even better job that paid me the big bucks. Stupid me for totally knocking myself out of the market because men are intimidated by both my salary and education and they think I won't "need" them. Link to post Share on other sites
OceanBlue Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Well, I for one am thankful for the education I received, thankful for the high paying career I have and thankful for the support of my male employers who believe that I have an even greater future ahead of me and are paying for my post-graduate education. And because of all that, I was able to leave the H who was apparently threatened by the fact that my salary was more than his and who was unsupportive when it came to my career. I am now with a man who is loving and supportive, who isn't intimidated by my education or salary. I hope that I will be able to provide these same advantages to my children. Link to post Share on other sites
justagirliegirl Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Amen to that. I totally get what you're saying. Stupid me, to spend my time in college getting an excellent education and then a good job. Stupid me for adding to my idiocy by going on to graduate school and getting an even better job. And then an even better job that paid me the big bucks. Stupid me for totally knocking myself out of the market because men are intimidated by both my salary and education and they think I won't "need" them. LOL I understand where you are coming from! Sometimes I think it would have made more sense for women to spend $20,000 on an extreme makeover. Link to post Share on other sites
justagirliegirl Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Well, I for one am thankful for the education I received, thankful for the high paying career I have and thankful for the support of my male employers who believe that I have an even greater future ahead of me and are paying for my post-graduate education. And because of all that, I was able to leave the H who was apparently threatened by the fact that my salary was more than his and who was unsupportive when it came to my career. I am now with a man who is loving and supportive, who isn't intimidated by my education or salary. I hope that I will be able to provide these same advantages to my children. Yes that was what happened in my case too. I educated myself with much resistance from my ex and got into a well paying career and was able to leave. My bf likes that I am smart, well educated, and have a good career. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Rooster_DAR Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 Yes that was what happened in my case too. I educated myself with much resistance from my ex and got into a well paying career and was able to leave. My bf likes that I am smart, well educated, and have a good career. I think smart women are very attractive as well, and I have no problem being with a woman who make more money than I do. Usually it's the other way around though due to the career I'm in. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites
GreenEyedLady Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Amen to that. I totally get what you're saying. Stupid me, to spend my time in college getting an excellent education and then a good job. Stupid me for adding to my idiocy by going on to graduate school and getting an even better job. And then an even better job that paid me the big bucks. Stupid me for totally knocking myself out of the market because men are intimidated by both my salary and education and they think I won't "need" them. Well said!!! Link to post Share on other sites
IpAncA Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Amen to that. I totally get what you're saying. Stupid me, to spend my time in college getting an excellent education and then a good job. Stupid me for adding to my idiocy by going on to graduate school and getting an even better job. And then an even better job that paid me the big bucks. Stupid me for totally knocking myself out of the market because men are intimidated by both my salary and education and they think I won't "need" them. Yeah same here. I felt like I wasn't going to need them also and I got a huge wake up call when i got out of college and I wasn't laughing. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Women just as men should get all the education they want and shoot for the stars. Any man put off by a woman realizing her dreams is not a man worth having but what turns many men off is when women act like we are disposible and useless. Women don't want men to be intimidated by their success but they make it a point to let us know how redundant we are because they now make their own money. It is more a woman's mentality that is a turnoff rather than any level of success. Link to post Share on other sites
norajane Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Women just as men should get all the education they want and shoot for the stars. Any man put off by a woman realizing her dreams is not a man worth having but what turns many men off is when women act like we are disposible and useless. Women don't want men to be intimidated by their success but they make it a point to let us know how redundant we are because they now make their own money. It is more a woman's mentality that is a turnoff rather than any level of success. Disposable, useless, redundant...I have doubts that women use or think those words with the men they love...I know I never have. It's more likely that's the misapprehension men are under when dating a successful woman. It's interesting that so many men are afraid of marriage because they think women only want them for their money, and then when a woman doesn't need their money, they're afraid of being disposable, useless, and redundant - AS IF they themselves think they have nothing to offer a woman except money. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Disposable, useless, redundant...I have doubts that women use or think those words with the men they love...I know I never have. It's more likely that's the misapprehension men are under when dating a successful woman. It's interesting that so many men are afraid of marriage because they think women only want them for their money, and then when a woman doesn't need their money, they're afraid of being disposable, useless, and redundant - AS IF they themselves think they have nothing to offer a woman except money. It's not that but many feminists like to rub it in our face that men are no longer needed because women make their own money and then get mad when we are insecure about it. My mother used to always say that without a man's money and sperm he is a useless slug that should be wiped out of existance. I think this is the way the majority of women feel about men I don't think most women love any man. Link to post Share on other sites
Flyin in Clouds Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 It's not 'your' theory. It is the 'theory' of every horny guy who tries to excuse his lack of faithfulness and loyalty on anything except his own selfishness. And Darwin did not argue for the survival of the fittest PERSON. His theory was about the adaptations of SPECIES, which he himself tried to make clear. Of course, like everything else, it got twisted. The survival of the human species is enhanced if males try to impregnate every female they can. It does not enhance the survival rate much if women do the same. While woman one is pregnant, the father can impregnant a dozen other women... And besides being the only species that has "morals", we are about the only species that has recreational sex and that crys. I'm not sure if all those are due to the same evolutionary forces though. Link to post Share on other sites
Flyin in Clouds Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 ... . "I have a PHD, my vital statistics are 36D-23-34, I speak 4 languages but hate feminism and am a super-feminine sweetie who loves kids and puppies :love: and enjoys being tied up and sodomised in her spare time. " Wow... sounds like just the woman I'm looking for... Link to post Share on other sites
Flyin in Clouds Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 It's not that but many feminists like to rub it in our face that men are no longer needed because women make their own money ... What man wants to be with a woman that doesn't need him? If women are saying making their own money is all they need, and a man is just something nice to have but they can do without him, then aren't women saying all that it takes to make them happy is money? Some will say "I choose to be with a man, I want to be with a man, but I don't need to be with a man. " Well sorry but I want to feel needed. If I'm not needed I don't want any part of the deal. And what kind of guy wants to be dependent on a woman? As in she makes more money than him? Do a lot of guys enjoy being kept around as the boy toy? Link to post Share on other sites
lyfelite Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Amen to that. I totally get what you're saying. Stupid me, to spend my time in college getting an excellent education and then a good job. Stupid me for adding to my idiocy by going on to graduate school and getting an even better job. And then an even better job that paid me the big bucks. Stupid me for totally knocking myself out of the market because men are intimidated by both my salary and education and they think I won't "need" them. Yea I agree too- sometimes I go damn some where along the line I forgot to be a girl... Where as my sister is with the same guys she has been with since she was 16 and they have 3 kids together. But she never went to college and doesn't work. I have 3 degrees and I work all over the world, and somewhere in between doing all that I evidently didn't figure it out that guys don't want girls that are independant to be their wives... We just don't have the time to stroke their massive egos all day. As for your orginal post-- the whole issue with cheating is its not a simple. I was just just reading this book the other day about monogamy and how its a very new concept to humans and how people do not realize that they are going against the grain of several years of nature. The biology of what we call cheating makes perfect sense but the emotional aspect of it is too much to bear for some women and men. There are alot of studies out there that speak to the scientific reasons as to why people men and women cheat. Its not just as simple as sex. I think people get caught up in thinking that its just about sex - when quite often it is not. I recently just gave a lecture on population and the decline in western countries and what has been effected. One of the things that has been affected in American society is the institution of marriage. What most people don't realize is that in certain areas there are some 94 women to one man. This contributes to the cheating factor. I hate to say it sometimes but we humans are slaves to what comes naturally. If your that one of 12 men in an area that has 300 single fertile women... guess what your going to do-- some call it cheating others call it survival of the species. To further this example I will give you a general population. Southern California there are 8.2 men to every 100 females. That means each man could coupulate with 10 women easily. Those numbers are averages. This does not include the fact that the population in Southern California is made up of a majority of men serving in the military that may be away from home for long periods- leaving their mate open for poaching. And then those that have died, or are incarcerated. If you take all that into account the Numbers of available men decreases to 4.3 per 100 women. So what you think is women not being "good" really isn't that, but more to the point that there is a serious imbalance in our society. And this imbalance can be attributed to so many things-- but I guess its easier for men to just believe we-- women are the problem. I think I will use this thread in my next presentation- no worries I'll change the names for security reasons. Thanks for the ammunition. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Rooster_DAR Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 This kind of goes with my theory as well. As I've stated on multiple threads, I honestly believe we are looking at a natural instinct to pro-create and escalate the species. We may not like it or want to be part of it, the the genes are all within us and mother nature is a powerful force to reckon with. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
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