Really Wish Id Listened To All Of You !!!

[NearlyThere]

nearlythere are you SERIOUS???

 

He only gives you TWENTY MINUTES three times a week and you LOVE him???

 

Oh please don't do this to yourself. How can you let yourself be treated that way? HOW???? You deserve MUCH MORE than that from someone who supposedly loves you.

 

I know, I sound pathetic, dont I. But to make matters worse I have to be up and out the house at 4.45am to do this, drive for half an hour so I can see him before he starts work. Or for 20 mins when he finishes work. Dare not let it be any longer. I sometimes wish it was longer, but as we make the most of the short time we have its never seemed too much of a problem, the talking on the phone or msn'ing makes up for it.

 

I'm not going to say I met my soul mate or anything like that with him but I just met someone when I was at a very bad point in my own life and there were so many things that we had in common in our relationships that we just clicked, I finished my very long term relationship within 2 months of meeting him. Read my first post if you want the whole story.

 

I dont know how its got into this situation, its just, and I dont want to hurt or make madder the W's that are reading these posts when I say this, but I can only say it as it is, but his W is already very suspicious, and so we cant risk alot of time together, and if she does what she threatens to do if he gets found out, ie he will never see the children again, then I dont want to be responsible, although i know that I will be and I will be to blame. The only way I sometimes feel like it is, is almost like an Crocodile Death Roll, you get caught and thats it until one of you drowns.

 

To be honest this is the first time he has done something so uncaring, but it has woken me up to the fact, he is now where he should be, with his W and kids, and there is nothing I can do about it. Does he love me? good question, says he does, took him 8 months to say it, but actions speak louder than words and what do his current actions say!!!!

 

So I hope that when he get back and if he gets in contact I can find it in me to walk away.

[whichwayisup]

well i disagree he is not an ass, and how the **** do you know if he makes love to his wife ????

 

Please don't tell me you believe he doesn't have sex with his wife! Come on. DO you really think he's going to ruin things with you by letting you know he's getting action at home with his wife? You know for a fact he's been lying to her, so don't ya think he's capable of lying to you as well? If you don't see this, then you're fooling yourself.

 

If he wanted out of his marriage, he would get out. Plain and simple.

[NearlyThere]

Please don't tell me you believe he doesn't have sex with his wife! Come on. DO you really think he's going to ruin things with you by letting you know he's getting action at home with his wife? You know for a fact he's been lying to her, so don't ya think he's capable of lying to you as well? If you don't see this, then you're fooling yourself.

 

If he wanted out of his marriage, he would get out. Plain and simple.

 

I have seen this quoted by different people a couple of times, "Do you really believe that he does not have sex with his wife". I understand why people believe that MM lie as its fairly obvious that they do. However this is one thing that I believe that some of them are being truthful about and dont understand why people find it so difficult to grasp this concept.

 

1. You only have to read posts on other boards on this site about H's and partners saying that their wives do not have sex with them, a couple of posters spring straight to mind but am not going to name them. Plus I can give you the name of of at least one other website dedicated purely to men and women who are not having sex OR intimacy in their relationship.

 

2. I did not have sex with my partner for 4 years, YES, 4 years. It got to the point where I did not want him to touch me, therefore if he had gone out and had an affair and said I am not getting sex at home, he would have been being completely truthful. So by logic, it is perfectly conceivable that MM are being truthful on this point as well.

 

3. I dont want to appear to rude here, so dont read any further if you get offended easily, but when you perform fellatio you get to know to know the bloke pretty intimately, and I dont wish to offend other blokes, but when a man does not have sex frequently or masturbates you can tell by the end of his d*ck and the amount of sperm he produces. The more he ejaculates the bigger the end and the more sperm, in my experience anyway. So I dont want to go into much more graphic detail but from the difference in those 2 things I have no reason to doubt it when the MM I am seeing told me he does not have sex with his W, although I am quite happy to be corrected by men on these 2 points I have raised. Ooops no pun intended, lol.

[YesandNo]

and that is ??

 

Well, this.

Please don't tell me you believe he doesn't have sex with his wife! Come on. DO you really think he's going to ruin things with you by letting you know he's getting action at home with his wife? You know for a fact he's been lying to her, so don't ya think he's capable of lying to you as well? If you don't see this, then you're fooling yourself.

 

If he wanted out of his marriage, he would get out. Plain and simple.

[BUTAFLY]

When the woman discovers that he is married, she will make it clear that she doesn't have relationships with married men.

 

That is the signal for the man to go into conquest mode.

 

He will pursue her possibly for years because he enjoys the chase. She will continue to refuse his advances as long as she cantolerate it or until he catches her at a weak and vulnerable moment. If she has a good relationship in her life, chances areshe can outlast him, but if she is single, available or married and unhappy, she will eventually succumb. Why? Because the man is so charming, heis wonderful, he is a knight in shining armor, he is a hero, he is this wonderful dedicated family man who is wonderful with his children and attentive to his wife. So the woman asks herself what is she doing?

 

She continues to say no and the more she says no, the more aggressive and charming and attentive he gets. This is the ultimate male challenge, to win over a woman who is saying no even though he knows she really is attracted to him.

 

A married man will work harder than any available man to make a woman fall in love with him.

 

He will be more charming, loving, attentive and wonderful than a woman can imagine that any man can be. So what happens next is this woman who finally surrenders to her feelings for this man, asks him to leave his wife for her. The response from him will almost inevitably be one of two, but I'm married and I'll neverleave my wife or yes, I'll leave my wife, but not yet (she's not ready,my children are too young, I can't afford it yet, my mother won't approve etc.) Initially the woman will respond with anger. "If you love your wife what are you doing with me?" Here is the clincher that finally hooks the woman, he is committed to his wife and the woman buys into his honorable dedication to his wife and thinks if only I could have a man who loves me like that.

 

It is at this point in their relationship that the woman's final act of settling may occur

 

I was unknowingly the OW and found out and was devistated ....I went NC and racked my brain in trying to understand why I was soo in love with a man that could do this to me and his wife. But this article beatifully explained why I have been stiffled for over a year.

Thank you so much

[NearlyThere]

I was unknowingly the OW and found out and was devistated ....I went NC and racked my brain in trying to understand why I was soo in love with a man that could do this to me and his wife. But this article beatifully explained why I have been stiffled for over a year.

Thank you so much

 

Bizarre coincidence. Butafly has quoted a bit more of the article i mentioned earlier on this thread. Here is the full link AGAIN. Sorry if i'm boring people by keep on mentioning it but it is one of the best things I have read about this kind of situation.

 

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Seduct...ed-Man&id=6846

[noforgiveness]

butafly being the unknowing other woman i'm sure is devastating. What happened when you found out? Did you dump him for lying?

 

 

 

That article is nonsense. TOTAL nonsense. It is an insult also.

some topic titles

 

Women in general are used to getting seconds.

 

We can live with the fact that men run the world, because women run relationships

 

Much of women's acceptance of second-class treatment is their own fault, because they don't even ask for it to be different

 

 

the author also went on about how sex dwindles after marriage. NONSENSE. Our sexlife got better and better through the years. We just had a discussion about that and how we have grown with each other that way and what an adventure it has been. If i can't handle this i still want him as a FB. We're amazing in bed. Our discussion was because he was reassuring me it wasn't sexual because of how amazing our sexlife is and how it never tapered off during the EA.

 

I honestly think some of these young women believe the MM don't have sex with their wives because they are young and think of their moms at 40 and think eeeww they don't have sex. Well guess what ladies 40 year old women have sex and enjoy it and that includes oral if your man tells you his wife never does that.

[BUTAFLY]

I think that portion was very general and speaking to the masses. I am sure there are exceptions to the rule...like yourself. I'm not surprised that your sex life was still going strong during the A. I'm sure many M are like yours.

Anyway ,that part was not interesting to me as much as the seduction of the mm.

 

Understand this man discussed us getting married ...this man brought home jewlery store brouchures to pick out an engagement ring.

When I found out he was already engaged I was angry, hurt and disappointed. I went NC for 1 month (while he was on his honeymoon). But just like the article said he went into full conquest mode when he got back. I slipped- up and resumed speaking to him, although very limited. That allowed him to effed up my mind more. I finally couldn't take the torture and completelly stopped talking to him. I liked the article because it describes the battle in my head, the trap the OW falls into.

 

He has no idea what his little game has done to me. He has detroyed my trust in men, it has broken my spirit, had me question my faith, and all for what? The thrill of the chase? I have never experienced anything more cruel that what he has done to me.

[NearlyThere]

butafly being the unknowing other woman i'm sure is devastating. What happened when you found out? Did you dump him for lying?

 

That article is nonsense. TOTAL nonsense. It is an insult also.

some topic titles

 

Women in general are used to getting seconds.

 

We can live with the fact that men run the world, because women run relationships

 

Much of women's acceptance of second-class treatment is their own fault, because they don't even ask for it to be different

 

the author also went on about how sex dwindles after marriage. NONSENSE. Our sexlife got better and better through the years. We just had a discussion about that and how we have grown with each other that way and what an adventure it has been. If i can't handle this i still want him as a FB. We're amazing in bed. Our discussion was because he was reassuring me it wasn't sexual because of how amazing our sexlife is and how it never tapered off during the EA.

 

I honestly think some of these young women believe the MM don't have sex with their wives because they are young and think of their moms at 40 and think eeeww they don't have sex. Well guess what ladies 40 year old women have sex and enjoy it and that includes oral if your man tells you his wife never does that.

 

.... I would like respectfully to disagree with you about this article for a couple of reasons. It actually says most mm will tell you their sex-life has dwindled, maybe therefore yours could be more the exception than the rule, you are lucky yours has got better and better, some peoples do however taper to nothing. I go back to my earlier post on this thread about their being no sex between a W/H or partner in a relationship, BTW I am 40 plus myself so dont quite fit into the eeeewww thinking category myself, well unless looking int the mirror. lol.

 

Perhaps being an OW there are more things on that article I relate too, who knows, but there were certainly a few that I found myself saying that is so true to.

 

You quoted the following:

 

Women in general are used to getting seconds.

 

Much of women's acceptance of second-class treatment is their own fault, because they don't even ask for it to be different

 

I agree with her, Women are used to the fact of getting seconds as in not being treated as equals, same pay, etc, however that is changing now but it still a well known fact in the US and UK men in the same job usually get paid more money and we are used to that fact however much we may hate it.

 

Surely as far as the 2nd statement goes, thats true, she goes on to qualify the statment by saying "The majority of wives work these days, they also are the primary childcare provider, and most of them do most of the housework and laundry and cooking and shopping as well", and unless we as women say to H's or partners, I expect you to do X,Y,Z to help then we fall into the acceptance zone. I think the use of 2nd class treatment as a statement is not quite right, perhaps "not being treated as an equal", would be better, and surely this is because Mothers, even today to a degree say to their daughters what their responsibilites are round the house, ie, cooking, cleaning etc.

I used to argue with my Mother all the time as she used to say to me after I came in from a full day at work, I should have my ex-partners dinner on the table ready when he came home from work. I used to say well I have been at work as well and she would reply but he's a man and its your responsibility!!!

 

We can live with the fact that men run the world, because women run relationships

 

Have to say the woman who wrote the article went onto try and draw a correlation with the workplace here, and although I could agree with what she said about the worksplace scenario could not see this connection.

 

If you want a smile have a look at this article its being doing the rounds here for while, dont know if you have come accross it but it makes me smile so maybe we have evolved a bit.

 

http://j-walk.com/other/goodwife/index.htm

 

Anyway, thats about it and I hope we can agree to disagree even if we are on the most definate opposite sides of the fence, as I like debating with people and I dont want it to develop into a cat fight. Sorry also if my spelling, punctuation and grammar are off, its now nearly 4 in the morning here.

[sassiex]

Please don't tell me you think he's cute that he's jealous of your job when he has a wife at home.

in answer to that....every man hasalittle jealousy inside of him! and thats a fact!

no i dont think its cute but i do think it shows hes a little unsure of me,which to me is good !!

after all being a pole dancer in london west end is a little different from being a librarian !! YOU GET ME ?

[sassiex]

Hi Sassiex

 

He flies back in two weeks yesterday, not that i'm counting, lol. If I do see him again it will have been 5 weeks without seeing each other, the longest ever yet. When I said this to him he said "oh right i see you every day in my head sorry its not the same for you. thought i mean't something to YOU". Normally see each other about 3 times a week but only for about 20 mins at a time. Glad when he gets back so I can let him have the blast of my wrath. I'm not going to put up with being 5th or 6th best any more.

 

I have a whole weekend away planned with 2 very good friends at Birmingham next week, going to the BBC Food and Drink show. Last year drank too much and nearly fell thru a partition thinking it was a wall.

 

I sometimes think the MM chose a time at short notice on purpose that they know we cant make so it looks like they make an effort and its then our fault. Not that I think he is manipulative of course. lol.

 

Also on a side note a couple of people have written about us OW talking about OUR MM. I know I dont and I'm pretty sure others dont either that when they say MY MM they dont mean it as in an ownership kind of way, I just mean the MM that i'm involved with. Because as most of us on here are talking about the MM they are with we tend to say MY to specify its the one they are involved with not they on they are involved with!!! IMHO no-one OWNS anyone else.

 

NT

hope things work out ok for you, i know how hard it is....good i feel like im suffering always lately!! howlong you been with your and i use the word your lightly !! mm ?

has he got kids ?

does he take you out ??

[outofdarkness]

I have seen this quoted by different people a couple of times, "Do you really believe that he does not have sex with his wife". I understand why people believe that MM lie as its fairly obvious that they do. However this is one thing that I believe that some of them are being truthful about and dont understand why people find it so difficult to grasp this concept.

 

1. You only have to read posts on other boards on this site about H's and partners saying that their wives do not have sex with them, a couple of posters spring straight to mind but am not going to name them. Plus I can give you the name of of at least one other website dedicated purely to men and women who are not having sex OR intimacy in their relationship.

 

2. I did not have sex with my partner for 4 years, YES, 4 years. It got to the point where I did not want him to touch me, therefore if he had gone out and had an affair and said I am not getting sex at home, he would have been being completely truthful. So by logic, it is perfectly conceivable that MM are being truthful on this point as well.

 

3. I dont want to appear to rude here, so dont read any further if you get offended easily, but when you perform fellatio you get to know to know the bloke pretty intimately, and I dont wish to offend other blokes, but when a man does not have sex frequently or masturbates you can tell by the end of his d*ck and the amount of sperm he produces. The more he ejaculates the bigger the end and the more sperm, in my experience anyway. So I dont want to go into much more graphic detail but from the difference in those 2 things I have no reason to doubt it when the MM I am seeing told me he does not have sex with his W, although I am quite happy to be corrected by men on these 2 points I have raised. Ooops no pun intended, lol.

I didn't know about this, but it is extremely informative and helpful to me! My H had multiple A's and insisted that he ONLY had Oral s--- with all...I find this hard to believe, but now I know what I'm looking for...I never have understood the whole OS thing. It always seemed to me to be purely for the M; meaning no enjoyment or fulfillment for the W...I know that I am rather ignorant in the whole sex department given the fact that the only M I have ever been w/ is my H, so I am eager to learn what really goes on out there. We met when we were in high school, continued on through college and married during grad school. Having a history is good, but obviously he did not have enough time to experiment and really know what he wanted. I tend to think he would have cheated anyway, but who knows? Didn't mean to chime in on another subject, but I did want to say how helpful your post was to me.

[frannie]

I have seen this quoted by different people a couple of times, "Do you really believe that he does not have sex with his wife". I understand why people believe that MM lie as its fairly obvious that they do. However this is one thing that I believe that some of them are being truthful about and dont understand why people find it so difficult to grasp this concept.

 

1. You only have to read posts on other boards on this site about H's and partners saying that their wives do not have sex with them, a couple of posters spring straight to mind but am not going to name them. Plus I can give you the name of of at least one other website dedicated purely to men and women who are not having sex OR intimacy in their relationship.

 

2. I did not have sex with my partner for 4 years, YES, 4 years. It got to the point where I did not want him to touch me, therefore if he had gone out and had an affair and said I am not getting sex at home, he would have been being completely truthful. So by logic, it is perfectly conceivable that MM are being truthful on this point as well.

 

3. I dont want to appear to rude here, so dont read any further if you get offended easily, but when you perform fellatio you get to know to know the bloke pretty intimately, and I dont wish to offend other blokes, but when a man does not have sex frequently or masturbates you can tell by the end of his d*ck and the amount of sperm he produces. The more he ejaculates the bigger the end and the more sperm, in my experience anyway. So I dont want to go into much more graphic detail but from the difference in those 2 things I have no reason to doubt it when the MM I am seeing told me he does not have sex with his W, although I am quite happy to be corrected by men on these 2 points I have raised. Ooops no pun intended, lol.

 

Its nice to see someone posting with good sense and logic about this subject for a change. Of course people who are married or living together long-term don't necessarily have sex together, for many reasons. Most of use have 'been there' at one time or another.

[YesandNo]

I wish I had PM, and I hope I am not being inappropriate by posting this...

 

But is this Butafly that I've been speaking with? I am not judging, I am just a bit confused.

[NearlyThere]

hope things work out ok for you, i know how hard it is....good i feel like im suffering always lately!! howlong you been with your and i use the word your lightly !! mm ?

has he got kids ?

does he take you out ??

 

 

Hi Sassiex.

 

Well I just hope things work out as well I'm still in a p*ssed state of mind at the moment, so want to still be able to tell him to sling his hook. However this is so much easier to say than do.

 

Well it is was a exactly a year last Wednesday that I first talked to him and it will be a year to when I first met him the day he flies back into the country.

 

Does he have kids, yes he does 2 boys who he says are everything to him.

 

Does he take me out, mmmm, no, not really, too risky, plus the time scales dont tend to make it possible, apart from our first date. But in some ways thats what makes the no texting before he went so hard to understand, because twice before he went he actually made a real effort so we could spend a fair while together but due to communication problems, (you know what mobiles can be like for delayed texts), could not make either of them.

 

How are you coping with things at the moment?

[sassiex]

Hi Sassiex.

 

Well I just hope things work out as well I'm still in a p*ssed state of mind at the moment, so want to still be able to tell him to sling his hook. However this is so much easier to say than do.

 

Well it is was a exactly a year last Wednesday that I first talked to him and it will be a year to when I first met him the day he flies back into the country.

 

Does he have kids, yes he does 2 boys who he says are everything to him.

 

Does he take me out, mmmm, no, not really, too risky, plus the time scales dont tend to make it possible, apart from our first date. But in some ways thats what makes the no texting before he went so hard to understand, because twice before he went he actually made a real effort so we could spend a fair while together but due to communication problems, (you know what mobiles can be like for delayed texts), could not make either of them.

 

How are you coping with things at the moment?

hi nearly there

i cope ok i guess, some days better than other .... you must know what thats like ?

my mm has 3 kids , the youngest is 5

we go out quite a lot together and we have such a good time, out to eat, to the pub, to clubs , over the woods etc etc.

he says i make him feel like a school boy !!

we get on so well, guess hes the right man at the wrong time, never felt like this about anyone ever before, thats why its so painful.

are you in uk? if so whereabouts?

so do you think you will stick to your guns when he gets back??

dont think i could do it, cant even tell my mm i love him

sass x

[NearlyThere]

hi nearly there

i cope ok i guess, some days better than other .... you must know what thats like ?

my mm has 3 kids , the youngest is 5

we go out quite a lot together and we have such a good time, out to eat, to the pub, to clubs , over the woods etc etc.

he says i make him feel like a school boy !!

we get on so well, guess hes the right man at the wrong time, never felt like this about anyone ever before, thats why its so painful.

are you in uk? if so whereabouts?

so do you think you will stick to your guns when he gets back??

dont think i could do it, cant even tell my mm i love him

sass x

 

Hi Sass

 

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean by some days being better that others, one day up on cloud nine, next down there feeling like sh*te.

 

I dont know which is better, you seem to get to do more with the MM for longer but not as often, while i get to see him 3 times a week but for a very short time. The right man wrong time comment struck a chord, have a look at this web site, very interesting, makes a comment saying many people find a more suitable mate after they are married. The site makes some very interesting points about infidelity, why it is now more common place, what drives people to do it, how likely they are to do it, the signs to look out for, that long term monogomy is difficult for humans to achieve, why people lie. Alot of it backed up by evidence.

 

http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/quizzes/public/infidelity_statistics.html

 

I live in the midlands, Robin Hood country, bit cold and windy up here today. How old are you and the MM your seeing if you dont mind me asking? I agree with what your saying about meeting someone you make a connection with, despite what other people here think, its never about the sex, if I was just after a shag I could go down a nightclub or bar and pull someone come to that so could they probably. You can tell how people feel about you by the look in their eyes and the sound in their voice, these things cant be mistaken. Can't really advise on telling him you love him, it might be the best this or the worst thing you can do, ive said it and so has he but has not changed anything in our situation.

 

But despite all that i'm still planning on trying to go ahead with my plan, this has taught me such alot. The A takes up far too much of my time, I dont know how but I must spend all of my time just waiting around for him to say OK we can meet or talk on the phone, I never realised it before, my house actually looks ok for a change. My hobbies had taken a back seat, gardening, crafting, reading etc. I really thought that I would find it so hard to get thru these weeks but unsurprisingly my life goes on, I suppose partly due to the fact I am still soooo p*ssed at him I have not missed him at all. I'm not carrying my mobi around with me like another limb.

 

Anyway, we will see, I am usually ok until I hear his voice, then I melt, lol.

 

NT

[sassiex]

Hi Sass

 

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean by some days being better that others, one day up on cloud nine, next down there feeling like sh*te.

 

I dont know which is better, you seem to get to do more with the MM for longer but not as often, while i get to see him 3 times a week but for a very short time. The right man wrong time comment struck a chord, have a look at this web site, very interesting, makes a comment saying many people find a more suitable mate after they are married. The site makes some very interesting points about infidelity, why it is now more common place, what drives people to do it, how likely they are to do it, the signs to look out for, that long term monogomy is difficult for humans to achieve, why people lie. Alot of it backed up by evidence.

 

http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/quizzes/public/infidelity_statistics.html

 

I live in the midlands, Robin Hood country, bit cold and windy up here today. How old are you and the MM your seeing if you dont mind me asking? I agree with what your saying about meeting someone you make a connection with, despite what other people here think, its never about the sex, if I was just after a shag I could go down a nightclub or bar and pull someone come to that so could they probably. You can tell how people feel about you by the look in their eyes and the sound in their voice, these things cant be mistaken. Can't really advise on telling him you love him, it might be the best this or the worst thing you can do, ive said it and so has he but has not changed anything in our situation.

 

But despite all that i'm still planning on trying to go ahead with my plan, this has taught me such alot. The A takes up far too much of my time, I dont know how but I must spend all of my time just waiting around for him to say OK we can meet or talk on the phone, I never realised it before, my house actually looks ok for a change. My hobbies had taken a back seat, gardening, crafting, reading etc. I really thought that I would find it so hard to get thru these weeks but unsurprisingly my life goes on, I suppose partly due to the fact I am still soooo p*ssed at him I have not missed him at all. I'm not carrying my mobi around with me like another limb.

 

Anyway, we will see, I am usually ok until I hear his voice, then I melt, lol.

 

NT

hi nearly there

you made e laugh...with reference to your mobile phone; mine would be superglued to me if it could:laugh:

i see my mm about twice a week, but at monment have not seen him for 2 weeks and its really hurting me, feel really low today !!

he wanted me to go and meet him friday early evening but i couldnt had no sitter.

i have 4 kids and im 40 , and my mm is 38 !

your right about them taking up all of your time, he is always on my mind; and waiting for him to call is so awful...painful

have you seen your mm's kids of w ??

do you know where he lives ???

take care

sass x:(

[NearlyThere]

Hi Sass

 

Sorry your feeling bad today, so thought I would send you a from work.

 

When I feel bad I try and find something else to cheer me up, watch a happy film, talk to a friend or think of something good that has happened with the MM in the past, sometimes easier said than done.

 

Here is a joke someone sent me earlier today, very corny but made me smile nonetheless.

 

A couple go for a meal at a Chinese restaurant and order the "Chicken

Surprise". The waiter brings the meal, served in a lidded cast iron

pot.

Just as the wife is about to serve herself, the lid of the pot rises slightly and she briefly sees two beady little eyes looking around before the lid slams back down.

 

"Good grief, did you see that?" she asks her husband.

 

He hasn't, so she asks him to look in the pot. He reaches for it and again the lid rises, and he sees two little eyes looking around before it slams down.

 

Rather perturbed, he calls the waiter over, explains what is happening, and demands an explanation.

 

"Please sir," says the waiter, "what you order?"

 

The husband replies, "Chicken Surprise."

 

You're going to love this....................

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Ah... so sorry," says the waiter, "I bring you Peeking Duck"

 

Bad joke - I know.

 

Well I'm 41, MM is 33, I have nothing more to say on that, lol. Yeah I know where he lives, would never go there under any circumstances though, no matter what. Not seen any of his family, I dont know them and think in some ways would be way too weird and too close to home.

 

Look after yourself. You could always resort to the chocolate therapy.

[sassiex]

Hi Sass

 

Sorry your feeling bad today, so thought I would send you a from work.

 

When I feel bad I try and find something else to cheer me up, watch a happy film, talk to a friend or think of something good that has happened with the MM in the past, sometimes easier said than done.

 

Here is a joke someone sent me earlier today, very corny but made me smile nonetheless.

 

A couple go for a meal at a Chinese restaurant and order the "Chicken

Surprise". The waiter brings the meal, served in a lidded cast iron

pot.

Just as the wife is about to serve herself, the lid of the pot rises slightly and she briefly sees two beady little eyes looking around before the lid slams back down.

 

"Good grief, did you see that?" she asks her husband.

 

He hasn't, so she asks him to look in the pot. He reaches for it and again the lid rises, and he sees two little eyes looking around before it slams down.

 

Rather perturbed, he calls the waiter over, explains what is happening, and demands an explanation.

 

"Please sir," says the waiter, "what you order?"

 

The husband replies, "Chicken Surprise."

 

You're going to love this....................

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Ah... so sorry," says the waiter, "I bring you Peeking Duck"

 

Bad joke - I know.

 

Well I'm 41, MM is 33, I have nothing more to say on that, lol. Yeah I know where he lives, would never go there under any circumstances though, no matter what. Not seen any of his family, I dont know them and think in some ways would be way too weird and too close to home.

 

Look after yourself. You could always resort to the chocolate therapy.

hi nearly there

thanks for that, that was very sweet

feel a bit better, went shopping with my friend and got a lovely outfit for the weekend.

cant wait to speak to him later,

how was your day ??

so we arethe older women with our mm's

why do we have to love them so much....wish i could switch my feelings off and just forget him, but im scared i will never feel love like this again. it makes me laugh really, he hasnt got a clue......dont think im going to tell him yet!!!

hope you dont mind me asking, but is it the best sex you have ever had ?

it certainly is forme

take care

sass x:cool:

[noforgiveness]

hi nearly there

thanks for that, that was very sweet

feel a bit better, went shopping with my friend and got a lovely outfit for the weekend.

cant wait to speak to him later,

how was your day ??

so we arethe older women with our mm's

why do we have to love them so much....wish i could switch my feelings off and just forget him, but im scared i will never feel love like this again. it makes me laugh really, he hasnt got a clue......dont think im going to tell him yet!!!

hope you dont mind me asking, but is it the best sex you have ever had ?

it certainly is forme

take care

sass x:cool:

 

you are a 40 year old mother of 4 who is a POLE DANCER? something is not adding up here.

[herenow]

you are a 40 year old mother of 4 who is a POLE DANCER? something is not adding up here.

 

You beat me to this. It's not that a 40 year old mother can't be a pole dancer, but I question what you are teaching your kids. Having an affair with a MM is bad enough, but working as a pole dancer just makes me wonder what the kids are learning. Or is it what the kids don't know won't hurt them? Think again if you believe that.

[noforgiveness]

You beat me to this. It's not that a 40 year old mother can't be a pole dancer, but I question what you are teaching your kids. Having an affair with a MM is bad enough, but working as a pole dancer just makes me wonder what the kids are learning. Or is it what the kids don't know won't hurt them? Think again if you believe that.

lol I wasn't even questioning that although i agree with.

 

I just can't imagine being a pole dancer at 40.

I think of a pole dancer as a young woman in college working for good money while she finishes her education or a young woman who is really down and out and can't find anything else that pays enough. Not something a mother of 4 would do.

[NearlyThere]

Sorry, but all Sass has said is she's a pole dancer!! nothing else.

 

All a pole dancer does is dance round a pole by definition and shake her a$$ as bit, whats the difference between that and a dancer at la folie berger or a show girl at vegas, or cant they be mothers either!!! Also you seem to be questioning her ability to be a mother just because of this job and therefore seems to be getting slightly personal.

 

Would you rather she was just sitting at home waiting for hand outs from the social services, like it would be very easy to do being a single mother, certainly in this country anyway.

 

Do you think she should sit and wait for her ex-partner/husband to provide money, sorry, UK is absolutely crap for helping people get maintenance from partners!! People over here have had to put up with the Child Support Agency for the last few years.

 

Perhaps she should ask her MM to provide money for her!!! Oh no, sorry, forgot, thats being discussed on another thread already lets forget that one.

 

A normal 9-5 desk job, well nursery care costs usually exceeds the price of a normal salary, bearing in mind she lives in London, so unless you would need to have family back-up support to do this for you.

 

So all I can say is good luck to her for trying her best to support her children. It might not be ideal but this is not a perfect world.

[herenow]

Sorry, but all Sass has said is she's a pole dancer!! nothing else.

 

All a pole dancer does is dance round a pole by definition and shake her a$$ as bit, whats the difference between that and a dancer at la folie berger or a show girl at vegas, or cant they be mothers either!!! Also you seem to be questioning her ability to be a mother just because of this job and therefore seems to be getting slightly personal.

 

Would you rather she was just sitting at home waiting for hand outs from the social services, like it would be very easy to do being a single mother, certainly in this country anyway.

 

Do you think she should sit and wait for her ex-partner/husband to provide money, sorry, UK is absolutely crap for helping people get maintenance from partners!! People over here have had to put up with the Child Support Agency for the last few years.

 

Perhaps she should ask her MM to provide money for her!!! Oh no, sorry, forgot, thats being discussed on another thread already lets forget that one.

 

A normal 9-5 desk job, well nursery care costs usually exceeds the price of a normal salary, bearing in mind she lives in London, so unless you would need to have family back-up support to do this for you.

 

So all I can say is good luck to her for trying her best to support her children. It might not be ideal but this is not a perfect world.

 

You are absolutely right, it is not a perfect world!