Men-honest:questionaire Re: Porn

[CarolAnne]

It is hard for me to understand how something like a video could bring so much pain, angst and agony to people.

 

"Maybe you can come to some sort of agreement about porn, such as that he cannot watch it in front of you and better clear the history on the browser so you don't ever see it"

 

"LOL! How is that a compromise?????? Maybe we can also agree that I can sleep with other men as long as he doesn't have to see it! Lol."

 

You can make someone change their behavior, but you cannot control their thoughts. That is the BIG distinction here. You sleeping with another guy whether or not he sees it is an ACTION, not a THOUGHT. Just like him actually cheating on you with another girl is an ACTION, but looking at a tv screen involves only THOUGHT. Clear the browser, watch movies in private. These are things he can DO. You can ban all porn from the house and he might agree to never buy it again, but that won't stop him from THINKING about it.

 

Its the difference between an oasis and a mirage. He knows there is nothing there for him in porn. If he lost you he would have nothing, no companionship, no sex, no friendship, no one to help him around the house, no nothing. There is nothing there. If you sleep with another guy, that is a REAL person who might be able to offer you companionship and family and relationship, same thing with strip clubs, those are REAL people --- but when he turns off the video he is alone, in an empty room. There is no one and nothing there for him that could pose even the slightest risk to him leaving you. He has nowhere to go, no one to talk to, just a video to replay which he has already seen. He has met nobody and talked to nobody. He could be eighty years old and replay the video and the girl will be the same age saying the same things even though in real life she has already died. So I don't understand how you consider that "cheating"

 

Is it because for a few minutes he is thinking of someone else besides you? Grow up. You do not own your bf. You may be married 50 years and you still will never know with 100% certainty what is on his mind. Even George H. W. Bush (the DAD) made some comment on tv recently about having a "thing" for Britney Spears. Do you think that even a former President somehow WON'T be interested in seeing "the Britney pictures"? THAT IS REALITY.

 

The problem is that you have some crazy unrealistic ideas about men from TV and movies like Titanic and the English Patient or Smallville or whatever shows you watch, a perfect Prince Charming who is blind to all people except you, and you are mad because bf is not living up to YOUR cheesy Prince Charming fantasy. LOL You don't even bother to ask whether he even wants you to be like the porn girls. To dress like a tramp every day and get cancer from your silicone boobs and STD's from all those crazy-looking 3somes. This is not what guys want in a gf.

 

Just like you shouldn't want your guy to pretend to be an unrealistic Mr. Perfect or demand that he lie to your face rather than be honest with you, just to make yourself feel better. You think he is watching porn because you have flaws?? That is in YOUR HEAD, not his. Maybe he watches it to relieve some of the stress of being nagged about watching it?

 

Incidentally, why should any dad tell their daughter about porn? that's disgusting. Just like parents don't give their kids sex lessons - you learn about that stuff in the real world.

[Mr. Lucky]

And apparently, the only way men can put on a farce of having a committed, monogamous relationship is to sustain it with ideas and pictures and thoughts of other women.

Here is one of the important areas we differ. "Ideas and pictures and thoughts of other women" are only one (extremely minor) way I sustain my committed, monogamous relationship. My fantasies don't define my relationship, they (when occasionally called on) enhance it. Ignoring a warm, giving, beautiful woman that I am lucky enough to share a bed with while I whack off to a computer screen makes about as much sense to me as substituting a Monopoly game with my son for retirement planning. I'm lucky to have a spouse that also often takes care of me even if she isn't in the mood. But sometimes circumstances intervene - separation, illness, responsibilities, etc. I will NEVER agree that, if I step into my fantasy world and takes things into my own hands (well-worn pun ), I'm making a "farce" of my relationship. And, after reading some of the posts here, I count my lucky stars that I'm married to a woman that feels the same way.

 

Mr. Lucky

[rainfall]

Is it because for a few minutes he is thinking of someone else besides you? Grow up. You do not own your bf. You may be married 50 years and you still will never know with 100% certainty what is on his mind. Even George H. W. Bush (the DAD) made some comment on tv recently about having a "thing" for Britney Spears. Do you think that even a former President somehow WON'T be interested in seeing "the Britney pictures"? THAT IS REALITY.

 

The problem is that you have some crazy unrealistic ideas about men from TV and movies like Titanic and the English Patient or Smallville or whatever shows you watch, a perfect Prince Charming who is blind to all people except you, and you are mad because bf is not living up to YOUR cheesy Prince Charming fantasy. LOL You don't even bother to ask whether he even wants you to be like the porn girls. To dress like a tramp every day and get cancer from your silicone boobs and STD's from all those crazy-looking 3somes. This is not what guys want in a gf.

 

Just like you shouldn't want your guy to pretend to be an unrealistic Mr. Perfect or demand that he lie to your face rather than be honest with you, just to make yourself feel better. You think he is watching porn because you have flaws?? That is in YOUR HEAD, not his. Maybe he watches it to relieve some of the stress of being nagged about watching it?

 

So if porn means nothing to him then why do people defend it so much?

Another thing where did you get the idea that a watch boring sappy movies like titanic? I also have no clue what the English Patient even is. So no I don't want my guy to be a sappy romantic freak. I just want him to love me and only me. I don't want him to look at me with disgust because I am not as attractive as the chicks in the porn video.

 

I don't want him to have to close his eyes and pretend that I am someone more attractive so he can get turned on enough to sleep with me. Since I been with him I have NEVER EVER had any reason to think of another guy. I have no reason too.

 

Don't give me the excuse its because he is a guy. That has nothing to do with it. It has to do with whether or not you really love someone. If you love someone why would you even want to think about sleeping with 10000 other people?

 

Guys might not want the porn chick for a girlfriend, but they sure want her for a sex partner.

[WhisperingWillow]

So if porn means nothing to him then why do people defend it so much?

Another thing where did you get the idea that a watch boring sappy movies like titanic? I also have no clue what the English Patient even is. So no I don't want my guy to be a sappy romantic freak. I just want him to love me and only me. I don't want him to look at me with disgust because I am not as attractive as the chicks in the porn video.

 

I don't want him to have to close his eyes and pretend that I am someone more attractive so he can get turned on enough to sleep with me. Since I been with him I have NEVER EVER had any reason to think of another guy. I have no reason too.

 

Don't give me the excuse its because he is a guy. That has nothing to do with it. It has to do with whether or not you really love someone. If you love someone why would you even want to think about sleeping with 10000 other people?

 

Guys might not want the porn chick for a girlfriend, but they sure want her for a sex partner.

 

 

You have some deep seeded issues. My take on it all, you're not going to keep a man for very long. You want to play mind police and have him only focus on you, very wrong my dear. Furthermore I'll say it again YOU NEED HELP! You have a very very very distorted way of viewing things.

 

I'm so glad I've got the boyfriend I have and I'm damn sure he is glad he has me for a girlfriend. I don't prod into his personal thoughts because they are just that his personal thoughts, we share a lot, even random stupid stuff because we share and are open with one another to the point of silliness. I can't fathom living like you. It must be exhausting.

[rainfall]

You have some deep seeded issues. My take on it all, you're not going to keep a man for very long. You want to play mind police and have him only focus on you, very wrong my dear. Furthermore I'll say it again YOU NEED HELP! You have a very very very distorted way of viewing things.

 

I'm so glad I've got the boyfriend I have and I'm damn sure he is glad he has me for a girlfriend. I don't prod into his personal thoughts because they are just that his personal thoughts, we share a lot, even random stupid stuff because we share and are open with one another to the point of silliness. I can't fathom living like you. It must be exhausting.

 

Well I have been with my boyfriend for 6 years now and I think that is along time.

I can't imagine being like you, knowing that my man is wishing I was someone esle. Knowing I am not good enough for him to get turned on by only me and being happy and ok with it.

I'm pretty sure their are things your bf does that you hate and that you wish he would stop. I am also pretty sure I would not understand why it bothers you so much. Porn and him wanting to sleep with other women is the only thing I have a problem with.

[Jersey Shortie]

Its clear to me just where my sexual needs rank in importance to the wife (my last blowjob was valentine's day 2006), pretty clear encouragement for me to use porn in between our bi-weekly sex.

 

I don't know the situation between you and your wife. But as not getting enough sex from your wife leads you to porn, my man looking at porn would not encourage me to be intimate with him either. Why should I put in the effort to care for his needs if that is the avenue he wants to take?

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That's what I was trying to get at in my earlier post. He's not inflicting his plain ol' freak show-bad fast food version of sex onto you precisely because you are much more than that and he can't think of sex with you that way. Sometimes, he just needs to rub one out and forget about it. He doesn't want to treat you that way, though.

I think this is ridiculous. Kinky sex between partners can be just as fun as romantic sex. I am willing to be more kinky and can look at that as an adventure to explore together. However, I will not feel like being vulnerable to a man, who is exploring that himself with other women in a video and thinking about them like that. There is really no point in putting in the effort. Men have made that perfectly clear how worthless the effort is for a woman to put effort into trying to make him happy.

 

 

You can make someone change their behavior, but you cannot control their thoughts. That is the BIG distinction here. You sleeping with another guy whether or not he sees it is an ACTION, not a THOUGHT.

 

You are right in this regard. My point however stands, things don't just go away because you want to pretend they don't exist. Which is what you are saying some of us should do. Pretend it isn't there! SORRY. Doesn't work like that.

 

 

You can ban all porn from the house and he might agree to never buy it again, but that won't stop him from THINKING about it.

He knows there is nothing there for him in porn. If he lost you he would have nothing, no companionship, no sex, no friendship, no one to help him around the house, no nothing. There is nothing there.

Yet, all I see is countless men defend the porn OVER the woman you keep saying are so important to him. If there is nothing for him there in porn why are millions of women hurt over it everyday and men continually take the side of their porn over the women they claim they care about? How it can have such a negative and demeaning effect on some women and STILL, men just want their porn at the end of the day.

 

 

He could be eighty years old and replay the video and the girl will be the same age saying the same things even though in real life she has already died. So I don't understand how you consider that "cheating"

I don't understand how you don't consider it cheating, deameaning and disrespectful to the real woman in his life that has stood by him. He gets older, you get older, and he keeps playing videos of girls that never get older! That is wonderful! Is that what a woman works towards for a relationship? Only so her husband can replay videos of girls that don't get older and he can live in some fantasy world that treats his wife like a peice of crap.

Is it because for a few minutes he is thinking of someone else besides you? Grow up.

 

Funny you said this. I often think men are the ones that need to grow up and out of a pre-pubencent fantasy. When do men grow out of porn? Because that is what porn is. An over extended pre-pubecent fantasy of the type of women men wished they had but don't and settle for women like you and me in real life. When do grown men grow up and feel happy with what they have?

 

You do not own your bf. You may be married 50 years and you still will never know with 100% certainty what is on his mind.

 

Who said I wanted to. I just want the respect I deserve to not be on rotations between him and the girls he so loves to look at in porn. I don't think that is asking for much.

 

 

 

The problem is that you have some crazy unrealistic ideas about men from TV and movies ....who is blind to all people except you, and you are mad because bf is not living up to YOUR cheesy Prince Charming fantasy. LOL You don't even bother to ask whether he even wants you to be like the porn girls. To dress like a tramp every day and get cancer from your silicone boobs and STD's from all those crazy-looking 3somes.

 

No, I do not have unreaslistic views that any man I dated was anything like some Prince Charming. And I wouldn't want them to be. That is the big difference between men and women. Women love men for who they are. Men love women for who they wished they were.

 

Apparently my expectations of men being loving committed parnters was nothing but a pipe dream. And the backlash of it is hurting me. I am sick of having to be a rotation or have to be "escaped" from because the fantasy of what he wished he had was so much better.

 

This is not what guys want in a gf.

 

Yeah. What men apparently want in a girlfriend is a girl to be there as a wet hole while he gets excited to all the porn he can handle. Then she can cook him a meal after wards and he can go back to the porn, what he wished women were.

 

 

Maybe he watches it to relieve some of the stress of being nagged about watching it?

 

Too bad women have nothing on their side that they can use to replace their man with when they don't want to be bothered by their borish and pigheaded selfish ways just like men don't want to be bothered with a nagging woman.

 

 

 

 

Incidentally, why should any dad tell their daughter about porn? that's disgusting. Just like parents don't give their kids sex lessons - you learn about that stuff in the real world

 

Why is that disgusting? I didn't say they should watch porn with them. Parents should talk to their children about sex. The good, the bad, the stuff the real world is about. Because if they don't learn about it from their parents eyes, they will learn about it through someone elses and I doubt those would be the kind of people you would want your children to learn thigns from.

 

I really hope that fathers would talk to their daughters about porn. Let them know that this is just something men need because she isn't good enough .Let them know how unimportant women are to men. Let them know that women are nothing more then someone to let a randoms guys cum on her face and walk away with a smile on his face. Men should tell their daughters that they shouldn't hold any unrealistic expecations like I have that men care and love women.

 

 

Here is one of the important areas we differ. "Ideas and pictures and thoughts of other women" are only one (extremely minor) way I sustain my committed, monogamous relationship.

 

Well then men luck out don't they. Here you have this wonderful woman by your side taking care of your needs, and at the end of the day you still need porn to sustain having monogamous relationship with. THat isn's monogamy. It is a cop out to please yourself and only yourself with no thought to anyone but yourself.

 

 

My fantasies don't define my relationship, they (when occasionally called on) enhance it

 

Why? Because you got excited over another woman and then had sex with your woman? Do you not see how hurtful and degrading that is?

 

 

But sometimes circumstances intervene - separation, illness, responsibilities,

 

And at the first sign of these you think of only yourself and do what is best for only you.

 

 

I'm making a "farce" of my relationship. And, after reading some of the posts here, I count my lucky stars that I'm married to a woman that feels the same way.

 

Unfortunetly, after reading the posts here I can't do the same. I can't count my lucky stars that men are loving, decent men who love their women. All I can see is more excuses and defending of porn.

 

Even from you. A man that cliams he loves and cares for his wife. What a laugh.

[WhisperingWillow]

Well I have been with my boyfriend for 6 years now and I think that is along time.

I can't imagine being like you, knowing that my man is wishing I was someone esle. Knowing I am not good enough for him to get turned on by only me and being happy and ok with it.

I'm pretty sure their are things your bf does that you hate and that you wish he would stop. I am also pretty sure I would not understand why it bothers you so much. Porn and him wanting to sleep with other women is the only thing I have a problem with.

 

 

Sorry baby, those are your issues not mine! My boyfriend and I also communicate very well and we share whatevers on our minds. We have come a long way. You are taking stuff to the extreme! Get some help rainfall. It's liberating. Trust me.

[cutegirl]

That's what I was trying to get at in my earlier post. He's not inflicting his plain ol' freak show-bad fast food version of sex onto you precisely because you are much more than that and he can't think of sex with you that way.

 

Sometimes, he just needs to rub one out and forget about it. He doesn't want to treat you that way, though.

 

Do you want him to feel free to just walk over to where you're sleeping and take 2 minutes to jerk over your face and then walk away? That's pretty much what he's doing with the porn, sweets.

 

Nothing wrong with that at all, whats wrong with a quickie? I'm not even into all that "lovemaking romantic stuff", sex is just sex. Nothing wrong with having fast food sex or a quickie just to get off. I would be fine with my guy doing that to me or vice versa.

[norajane]

Nothing wrong with that at all, whats wrong with a quickie? I'm not even into all that "lovemaking romantic stuff", sex is just sex. Nothing wrong with having fast food sex or a quickie just to get off. I would be fine with my guy doing that to me or vice versa.

 

Missing the point - YOU might be fine with him jerking onto your face while you sleep and walking away, but HE isn't fine with that. He can't bring himself to do that to you because he doesn't see you as just an object to use to get off.

[IpAncA]

Come on guys do you really think that she needs therapy? She is not the only one that thinks that way. There are even some guys out there too.

 

I myself was brought up to believe in what she is saying and yes I don't think about anyone else because I don't want to. Trust me I really don't. But I'm not a guy so I don't know about this whole visual thing. I can only go by what I'm told and if it's consistent.

 

But I do understand why those who are not getting sex that much or at all will turn to porn.

[michelangelo]

I think the basic problem here is misunderstanding on many levels.

 

Turning a "feeling" into a "fact."

 

Basing conclusions on feelings not supported by evidence.

 

For example

 

1. Only sexual expression between a committed partners is good.

 

2. Fantasy and masturbation to porn are bad.

 

Therefore,

 

Fantasizing and masturbating to porn means someone is rejecting their bonds with their committed partner.

 

or

 

If someone fantasizes or masturbates then that means they are unable to be sexual with their committed partner without doing so.

 

 

To me I think it is reasonable that someone can hold the two feelings listed as 1 and 2 above even if i do not share those beliefs. However, I don't see how the conclusions made can be made. It is not a simple a+b=c situation.

[cutegirl]

Missing the point - YOU might be fine with him jerking onto your face while you sleep and walking away, but HE isn't fine with that. He can't bring himself to do that to you because he doesn't see you as just an object to use to get off.

 

Well I wouldn't want to be with a guy who wasn't comfortable with that. If you can't even feel comfortable with your sexual partner than what's the point? Luckily my guy IS comfortable with that.

 

The guy not being comfortable with that is what eventually leads to cheating. Say the guy has some sexual fetishes that he's not comfortable enacting with his girlfriend, he will eventually do it with hookers or "dirtier women" that he considers as objects.

 

It's called madonna whore complex.

 

I would only want to be with a guy who's comfortable enough with me to be completely honest with me. Trust me, I've seen it all sexually. Not done it, but seen it on-line (porn). Nothing can shock me.

 

Women who are "clean" on the outside, wear designer clothes, look classy, are cultured, have excellent jobs, act like a lady on the outside, can also be "dirty" on the inside like any pornstar, or even DIRTIER when no one is looking. No need to separate the two. This is 2006 after all.

 

Also, he can just wake me up and have sex with me, then blast on my face, why blast on my face when i'm sleeping? I wouldn't get mad if he woke me up. But if he has a "sleeping fetish" I guess that's fine too, Whatever rocks his boat!

[norajane]

Well I wouldn't want to be with a guy who wasn't comfortable with that. If you can't even feel comfortable with your sexual partner than what's the point? Luckily my guy IS comfortable with that.

 

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Also, he can just wake me up and have sex with me, then blast on my face, why blast on my face when i'm sleeping? I wouldn't get mad if he woke me up. But if he has a "sleeping fetish" I guess that's fine too, Whatever rocks his boat!

 

I used asleep in my example, because he's masturbating when he's using the porn...no one is involved except him and his hand. He uses the porn chick to masturbate. There is a huge difference between a quickie and masturbation, the primary one being that it is a solo activity.

 

I can't imagine you'd be opposed to him masturbating, but it kinda sounds like that's what you're saying...that he should just wake you up for a quickie instead of masturbating.

[cutegirl]

I used asleep in my example, because he's masturbating when he's using the porn...no one is involved except him and his hand. He uses the porn chick to masturbate. There is a huge difference between a quickie and masturbation, the primary one being that it is a solo activity.

 

I can't imagine you'd be opposed to him masturbating, but it kinda sounds like that's what you're saying...that he should just wake you up for a quickie instead of masturbating.

 

Well, if the woman is WILLING to be waken up and give him a quickie, then why would he need to masturbate?

 

I'm saying for example, say someone like Rainfall doesn't want her bf to jerk it to other women. So she tells him IMPLICITLY to wake her up when the mood strikes because she would WANT to satisfy him (so that way he doesn't need to masturbate), what would be wrong with that?

 

If she wants to get him off by giving him a hand job or quick blow or whatever, then he wouldn't need to jerk it... If that's what she wants then I see nothing wrong with it.

[michelangelo]

Yeah, the level of enthusiasm to be woken up for the 2 a.m. handjob night after night would be quite high, I am sure --not!

[IpAncA]

Yeah, the level of enthusiasm to be woken up for the 2 a.m. handjob night after night would be quite high, I am sure --not!

Wouldn't set well for me thats for sure.

[whichwayisup]

In all honesty, HOW many woman in relationships (be honest please) would MIND if their partner woke them up horny and wanted to have sex, or asked for a blowjob. How many of you would really wanna wake up and screw or give head. I know at times I would say yes, but other times I would say no way, go jerkoff!! Why did ya wake me up!!

 

Michelangelo is right. And the guy is damned (for some) either way. Damned if he goes and masterbates. And he's damned if he wakes her up and wants sex. LOL ironic eh?

[cutegirl]

Yeah, the level of enthusiasm to be woken up for the 2 a.m. handjob night after night would be quite high, I am sure --not!

 

Well, I'm sure SOME women would rather do that then have their man jack off to some other women.

 

Someone was saying that the guy might rather jerk it off than wake up his gf but if she doesn't mind this then what's wrong with that? If a woman felt THAT strongly about a guy fantasizing about other women, like Rainfall does, then I'm sure she wouldn't mind being woken up if that prevents his man from jerking it.

 

Personally, to be honest, I wouldn't mind to be woken up.

[michelangelo]

So if your guy awakened you from a sound sleep every night in the next year you would enthusiastically "service him" every single time and not even suggest he take care of himself or refuse him without an alternative?

 

Really?

 

Somehow I doubt it.

[whichwayisup]

Well, I'm sure SOME women would rather do that then have their man jack off to some other women.

 

But you will NEVER know what he is jerking off to, unless you're crazy enough to ask him...And he's stupid enough to answer. The correct answer will ALWAYS be, YOU HONEY.

 

I couldn't care less if my husband decided to whack off one night in bed and thought of someone else. Either way I CANNOT CONTROL THIS THOUGHTS, so why the F sit and wonder what he is thinking while jerking off. HIS PRIVATE thoughts, not my business.

 

If a woman felt THAT strongly about a guy fantasizing about other women, like Rainfall does, then I'm sure she wouldn't mind being woken up if that prevents his man from jerking it.

 

Personally, to be honest, I wouldn't mind to be woken up.

 

So, he wakes you up(or Rainfall's bf wakes her up) and says "Babe, I'm really horny, Let's make love..." She says or you say..."I really am not up for it, sorry. But let's do it in the morning..." ARE you saying that he has NO right to go jerk off? You'd rather him lay in bed with a raging hard-on and wait until the morning? IF this is your answer, or rain's answer, that is just CRAZY. One has no right to restrict their partner to WHEN they can masterbate and when they can't. Control issues come into play here, and that's the bottomline. Controlling and insecurity issues...

[cutegirl]

 

 

So, he wakes you up(or Rainfall's bf wakes her up) and says "Babe, I'm really horny, Let's make love..." She says or you say..."I really am not up for it, sorry. But let's do it in the morning..." ARE you saying that he has NO right to go jerk off? You'd rather him lay in bed with a raging hard-on and wait until the morning? IF this is your answer, or rain's answer, that is just CRAZY. One has no right to restrict their partner to WHEN they can masterbate and when they can't. Control issues come into play here, and that's the bottomline. Controlling and insecurity issues...

 

No, I'm saying if the woman is always WILLING to jerk him off or give him a bj when he wakes her up, then what's the prob? . I don't care if my bf jerks off, but I'm always willing when he wakes me up to satisfy him, and when I feel like it I have no probs waking him up either so he can satisfy me.

 

The guy doesn't need to wait with a raging hard on cause I'm willing to get him off if he wakes me up. It doesn't take THAT long to get a guy off. Why would he wait till morning if I can do it right then and there.

 

I don't get pissed if my guy wakes me up for some action at night.

[whichwayisup]

Why would he wait till morning if I can do it right then and there

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Sometimes a guy (or a girl) chooses to masterbate and enjoy it rather than get laid. I know there are times I would rather masterbate...LOL!

[norajane]

No, I'm saying if the woman is always WILLING to jerk him off or give him a bj when he wakes her up, then what's the prob? . I don't care if my bf jerks off, but I'm always willing when he wakes me up to satisfy him, and when I feel like it I have no probs waking him up either so he can satisfy me.

 

The guy doesn't need to wait with a raging hard on cause I'm willing to get him off if he wakes me up. It doesn't take THAT long to get a guy off. Why would he wait till morning if I can do it right then and there.

 

I don't get pissed if my guy wakes me up for some action at night.

 

If he wakes you up night after night after night after night after night all year long, has you jerk him or blow him off, and does nothing at all for you, I'd be willing to bet money that you (and rainfall and jersey, et al.) would very, very soon be screaming about how he's USING you just to get off and he thinks you're just a hole and he doesn't care about you and is sex all men can think about, yadda yadda yadda...

[norajane]

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Sometimes a guy (or a girl) chooses to masterbate and enjoy it rather than get laid. I know there are times I would rather masterbate...LOL!

 

Agreed - masturbation isn't like a quickie and it isn't like anything else but self-pleasure. Why shouldn't men (and women) be allowed to touch their own bodies and fantasize about whatever the f*ck turns them on?

[cutegirl]

If he wakes you up night after night after night after night after night all year long, has you jerk him or blow him off, and does nothing at all for you, I'd be willing to bet money that you (and rainfall and jersey, et al.) would very, very soon be screaming about how he's USING you just to get off and he thinks you're just a hole and he doesn't care about you and is sex all men can think about, yadda yadda yadda...

 

I DO NOT CARE if my bf jerks off or fantasizes.

 

I am saying for the women that DO care so much that if they want to complain about their husbands jerking off while thinking about other women, you BETTER be on call to service him 24/7, otherwise you can't really complain if he does.

 

As for me I DON'T CARE, and I STILL have no probs if he wakes me up day after day. Actually I hardly ever sleep before my bf cause I work from home and can wake up whenever I feel like, so I don't have that problem, but when he wakes me I have no problems.

 

I am personally not intimidated by pornstars or other women because I know I am desirable and good looking. I take good care of myself and make a lot of women. There's not that many women who are attractive AND make six figures a year AND can have sex like a pornstar, plus I'm not overweight, I'm under 100 lbs. So I don't give a flying crap about some pornstar or other women because I know I am "competitive" compared to them.