burning 4 revenge Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Soon as woman sees man smoke there is no way he's put in "nice guy" category. Nice guy does not smoke and never offends anyone. Smoker is taking risks and going against the grain, he is unconventional and different and exciting.... ......and out of breath and limp. Are you sure you're not an eighteen year old frat boy from Orange County California? Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Soon as woman sees man smoke there is no way he's put in "nice guy" category. Nice guy does not smoke and never offends anyone. Smoker is taking risks and going against the grain, he is unconventional and different and exciting.... many femles say they don't like smoker....but this is usually bull****.....woman also says she like "nice guy" but she ends up with jerk. :lmao: Smoking does not determine if a guy is a doormat or not. Link to post Share on other sites
AHIWON Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I am playing with the thought of trying this new drug. I had a script for zyban last year but never took it. My sister had a severe rash after taking zyban. I later found out that the rash she developed is a precursor to seizures so I didn't want to take Zyban since we have the same genetic makeup. I mentioned Chantix to my family doctor last week after reading this thread. He said they all have side effects and I mentioned the people in this thread said they were all good. Folks saying they like the vivid dreams. My MD kinda rolled his his eyes at that thought. He said try the gum first, then the patch. I kinda want the vivid dreams and it seems like a high success rate with Chantix. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I've been smoking a pack every day since I was 13 (that's 44 years) tried to quit sooo many times through so many methods, I've lost count. I've been using Chantix for 3 & 1/2 weeks now, my doctor gave me the 1st month starter pak. I was hesitant because I have a weak stomach and he said nasuea was a side effect - I didn't want to go there, so I put off taking it until I had some time off of work. I didn't hold much hope for this miracle drug since I've tried all the others too. My biggest road block is that I live alone, so I'm not accountable to anyone but me and it's easy to lie to yourself and hide from everyone else. Now however, I'm ready to go get my script filled (much to my surprise). It will cost $112.00 (insurance doesn't cover) but I've been putting away the $5 a day I spend on smokes, so I actually have $28 left over (to add to my christmas savings account). My Chantix experience - 2 pills a day, I take one pill shortly after breakfast and one after dinner, I simply don't even think about smoking any more, the first week I tried to smoke but the cigs tasted stale and I only had a few puffs and put them out. Since then I've tried a puff here and there with the same results, they really taste nasty. Side effects for me have been the dreams, like one of the other replies, most of my dreams are pleasant, but very vivid, some however are nightmares and again very vivid, so they wake me up. I've also had some insomnia so I have had some nights that have taken me hours to fall asleep only to be awakened by a nightmare couple that with waking up to hot flashes and not being able to get back to sleep, needless to say I've had some pretty cranky days. But I find that if I take a sleep aid (Tylenol PM for me) it helps me fall asleep and stay asleep, even through the flashes =-) On the up side - I don't have any increase in appetite, but I am eating better and enjoying my meals a lot more. I've put my new found energy into exercise and family time and I'm loving it. I don't have to take that cigarette break at parties or work and I don't smell like smoke, which is great, because now I can smell it on others and may I just say "yuck" I'm glad I'm past that and I'm looking forward to being a non smoker after so many years. Recommending it to anyone who will listen - I've tried patches, gum, herbal remedies and cold turkey. If you really want to be smoke free give it a try, you're worth the effort. This sounds positive. I have fears of trying new drugs, especially ones that have side effects. I can handle the dreams, and hopefully that's all I'll have... So, this drug isn't like Zyban, which is more or less (as alpha says) wellbutrin? I just don't want to take anything that could make me change mentally, if you know what I mean...lol Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I have tried to quit smoking a couple years ago. It was horrible and two weeks later I went back to smoking. This time I tried it with Chantix. I DO feel the urges to smoke, but they show up a few times a day and go away after half an hour. They are not so terrible either. I used to smoke around 15 cigarettes a day. I think I would smoke two per day now, but I want to stop completely. I haven't smoked in the last 5 days at all. If I can do that, I can stop forever. I know that the craving will go away in a few weeks. If I feel like this a year later, I will continue to smoke, but only a few cigs per day. The craving is not terrible, but it's there. Nonetheless I highly recommend Chantix. It really helps. My husband ( at the same time as I) and a friend of his (two months ago) also quit smoking with Chantix. You have to get a prescription for it from your physician. The price is about $100 per month. That's more or less how much you spend on cigarettes so there is no money loss. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hopefully they have this wonder drug in Canada! I will have to check.... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Craig Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 I mentioned Chantix to my family doctor last week after reading this thread. He said they all have side effects and I mentioned the people in this thread said they were all good. Folks saying they like the vivid dreams. My MD kinda rolled his his eyes at that thought. He said try the gum first, then the patch. The problem with the gum and the patch is that it is just substituting gum or a patch for a cigarette to deliver nicotine. You are still going to have to go through full withdrawal. From what I understand about Chantix there is no withdrawal or very little and cravings are more psychological than physical. I'd say get the script from your Doc for Chantix to quit smoking fast and without terrible nicotine withdrawal symptoms. This sounds positive. I have fears of trying new drugs, especially ones that have side effects. I can handle the dreams, and hopefully that's all I'll have... So, this drug isn't like Zyban, which is more or less (as alpha says) wellbutrin? I just don't want to take anything that could make me change mentally, if you know what I mean...lol Just do it WWIU and let us know how you are doing on it day by day. Chantix is, I think, the first drug of it's kind released in Canada or the U.S., in any case it is completely unlike Zyban / Wellbutrin. In Canada and the EU it may be called Champix Link to post Share on other sites
AHIWON Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Craig, that is exactly my feeling about the gum and the patch. The last attempt I've made at quitting was with the patch. I will pursue Chantix in a couple of months after my life is in better order and less stressful. Tying up the lose ends of a 13 year LTR and moving on with my life. Right now would be a bad time, would just set my self up for a failure. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Thanks Craig! Champix treatment includes 12 weeks of taking the drug as well as smoking-cessation counselling. Pfizer said the drug's possible side-effects include nausea, abnormal dreams, constipation, flatulence and vomiting. The ones in bold I really hope I never have to experience. The flatulence is nothing new! hehe.. Could live without the constipation though - And the dreams, well, that's cool. Link to post Share on other sites
Miss_Bee Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 The only side effect I have experienced, and it's not a bad one, is extremely vivid dreams at night. I dream ALL NIGHT LONG on this pill. Also, I don't know much about medicare coverage, but I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield PPO, and it was covered under my insurance. Sounds awesome, i'm going to have to try this when i decided that i've had enough poison. The side effect you mentioned, i'd welcome as long as they are good dreams of course. Are they good dreams, do they just make your dreams more realisitic? Or do they give you nightmares? Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 The drug is French actually. I haven't experienced any nausea or vivid dreams, but my libido has gone down to near zero. Anyone else has this side effect? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 The drug is French actually. that figures RP....If anyone need that drug the French do, they smoke like chimneys. No wonder they are all so skinny Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 that figures RP....If anyone need that drug the French do, they smoke like chimneys. No wonder they are all so skinny People smoke everywhere. In America they smoke in the closet. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Craig Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 The drug is French actually. Where did you learn that? Everything I've read indicates that it was developed by Pfizer in Grouton, Connecticut. Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Where did you learn that? Everything I've read indicates that it was developed by Pfizer in Grouton, Connecticut. I don't know, I saw it somewhere in the instructions. Now I looked at the box and it said that it's manufactured in Dublin, Ireland. I guess they have many divisions. Why does it matter? You don't trust the French? We're telling you it works, Try it. Link to post Share on other sites
milvushina Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I thought some people might be interested in how these work... this was explained to me by my mother who works for the Health Department. I was looking forward to trying Chantix, but ended up successfully quitting with Wellbutrin after smoking for 14 years. Wellbutrin is good for depression, and also happens to be an antagonist to certain receptors in the brain that nictone affects. The chemical in Chantix also binds to certain nicotine receptors, but it is an agonist. The difference is that an antagonist will bind to a receptor site and block other chemicals from binding there, without causing an effect itself. An agonist will bind to a receptor site, and cause an effect. And so there are less nic-fits on these drugs. Wellbutrin competes with nicotine in the brain, so when you do smoke, the effects are not as intense. More so on Chantix, because it (to an extent) mimics the effect of nicotine in your brain. She also likes to say a person can have almost any reaction to almost any drug - even if it is very rare. So, there could be a small percentage of people that experience sexual side effects or something, even if it is not really reported. Also I am not a doctor or anything of course, but that is basically how it was explained to me and I thought that was neat. As opposed to patches, gum etc. which is really just a way of tapering and that is hard. Also, I dont see how it's bad to take a non-addictive, non-harmful drug, to stop a harmful addictive drug. Link to post Share on other sites
AHIWON Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I like to know how things like this work. Thanks for sharing Milvushina. Link to post Share on other sites
boshemia Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I tried wellbutrin once and I swear I smoked twice as much, it was awful. I was wondering if this was the drug they were calling a "nicotine vaccine" a few months ago or is that something different? I talked to hubby and it's worth looking into, smoking these days is such a drag (he he sorry) Little kids point to you and whisper "Mommy, that lady is smoking..." like I just exposed myself in public or something it's really getting to be so socially unacceptable that you feel like a felon. Link to post Share on other sites
SoxPrincess Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I don't have any personal experience with Chantix as I am a non-smoker but my Mom was recently put on it and she has been smoke free for 3 months now. She has been a 2 pack a day smoker for the better part of 30 some odd years and I never thought I would see the day where she didn't have a cigarette and now I have Initially she worried that the worst part would be having the cravings when she would normally have a smoke like after her morning coffee, dinner etc but she says she hasn't had any of those cravings at all. She did mention that her house is spotless as she cleans like crazy after her morning coffee now She hasn't mentioned any side effects but I haven't inquired either, I am just happy beyond belief that this is working for her and I hope that it works for all of you as well! Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites
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