Love Hurts Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 It's been around since the 4th Century over 1600 years. Some of the greatest minds in Christendom have preached the Gap Theory; Dr. C. Solfield, Dr. Clarence Larkin and his dispensational charts. Dr. Merl Unger and one of the princes of prophecy for the 20th century Dr. John Walford and Dr. W.S. Hoddle. There could be millions of years in between Genesis 1 vs.1 and vs.2 which would account for the different layers and stratagems in the earth, dinosaurs and cavemen. Because Genesis1 vs. 1 says in the beginning God created heaven and the earth. vs.2 tells us the earth was without form a void and darkness was upon the face of the earth and the spirit of God moves upon the waters. Isaiah 45:18 God did not create the earth without form and void. In Hebrew the words are a little different.... in Hebrew it would read... Genesis 1 vs. 1 In the beginning God barah heaven and earth. Barah means - new and perfect without void. Genesis 2 vs. 2 The earth hatah - became not Written in Hebrew. It says and the earth became without form. Hetah It appears God created a perfect world and then it wasn't. What caused this? The time when Satan was cast out of Heaven and he became the God of this world. ...IICorinthians 4:4. Because he was not only in control of the Heavens 1 and 2, but the earth as well. Was there another generation? Was there prehistoric man? Isaiah 14:12-14 How art thou fallen from Heaven oh Lucifer... Oh sun of the morning? How art thou cut down to the ground? Which did weaken the nations? Nations were here. That is not after Adam & Eve. That’s before Adam & Eve. Ezekiel 28:17 He is cast to the ground that the kings of the earth might behold him. THERE WERE KINGS OVER NATIONS. This is the Gap Theory .... God created the perfect earth Barah ...but it became without form and void Hetah.. because of Satans fall. The kings of the Nations obeyed him IICorinthians 4:4. We know now... If we go down to the depths of the ocean. You can find tremendous mountains and valleys.. Undoubtedly that prehistoric race is buried down there with the land shifting ... That which was land became water and water became land. Some of this is buried 7 miles down where no human can research due to pressure. Some of the greatest people who study archeology.. Dr. Clarence Larking ; death and hates delivered up the dead which were in them and were judged. .. and then the Sea gave up the dead.. Why? Why did He mention the Sea? Because a few dead sailors were in there? No... Because a prehistoric race is buried in the depths of ocean and they all come out from that generation and the generation from Adam ... the last 6000 years for judgment. Sorry but there is no mention of "prehistoric man" before Adam... Prehistoric man is just a Neanderthal evolutionary myth to support the false ideology that we are from chimps. The flood happened if there are any people in the sea that are dead- that is because they were drowned in the flood. Oh by the way science is wrong too about Pangea- people inhabited the earth before the continents split apart. Please read Genesis again, and Chronicles and read about Peleg. That would explain why the flood covered all the earth and every mountain top. It also explains that interesting mid-Atlantic ridge that goes around the world like I huge seam. _________________ Who are the Dead in the Sea? Rev. 20:13 And the sea gave up the =dead which were in it… These are the dead of generations of people that dwelt upon the earth during the time of Satans Fall From Heaven... (There were kings of nations upon the earth at that time and they worshipped Satan). They fall between the cracks of Genesis 1: vs1 and 2... They too will be judged. Link to post Share on other sites
bluetuesday Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Genesis1 vs. 1 says in the beginning God created heaven and the earth. the hebrew text actually reads 'in the beginning, gods created the heaven and the earth' because the plural noun elohim is used. the singular noun eloah would denote 'god'. some theorists claim the word eloah has a linguistic link to the word allah, which also means god. interesting. i have not heard of the gap theory, at least not in those words. but of course the earth was not created in six 24-hour periods. it did take millions of years to evolve so yes, there could be millions of years between genesis 1 vs1 and 2. but then genesis is not a literal description of the process of creation. it is a story told to explain a difficult concept to people with very limited understanding. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 the hebrew text actually reads 'in the beginning, gods created the heaven and the earth' because the plural noun elohim is used. the singular noun eloah would denote 'god'. some theorists claim the word eloah has a linguistic link to the word allah, which also means god. interesting. i have not heard of the gap theory, at least not in those words. but of course the earth was not created in six 24-hour periods. it did take millions of years to evolve so yes, there could be millions of years between genesis 1 vs1 and 2. but then genesis is not a literal description of the process of creation. it is a story told to explain a difficult concept to people with very limited understanding. Whats interesting are building blocks to Allah… who has no Son named Jesus. Elohim our creative creator… Our Three Headed God. Our Trinity. The Father Son and Holy Spirit. Through Genesis we know all we need. What about the creation of Giants? JUDE 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. FALLEN ANGELS WENT AFTER STRANGE FLESH...COULD THIS BE THE REASON FOR GIANTS? Fallen Angles having sexual relations with Animals too? God declared, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them" (Gen.6:7). Why was God upset even with the creation of the animal world? Because it, too, had become contaminated! We read, "And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, IT was CORRUPT; for ALL FLESH had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Gen.6:12). We read: "And God said unto Noah, the end of ALL FLESH is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them [the fallen angels, having instructed mankind in the ways of violence, and producing violent offspring!]; and, behold, I will destroy THEM with the earth" (v.13). JUDE1: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day THESE ANGLES ARE NOW CHAINED IN DARKNESS UNTIL JUDGMENT DAY. II PETER 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; Check out this link for more on Creation via demons…. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/giants2.htm Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hey Love Hurts... The Gap Theory is quite interesting and answers many questions. Some in the church today want to put God in a box and are stiff necked in doing so. When I read your posts I am so encouraged and freedom is what is being spoken....that is simply God. I have felt so far away from God, not having the discernment in most cases, unable to tell if it is God speaking or my flesh....The Lord revealed it was guilt and shame causing the distance.... I see deliverance for many in this area....also major deliverance concerning many things....the devil is a liar and is under Jesus's feet....He has crushed the enemy....my prayers are always with you LH, and we shall see the fruit of ALL labor shortly....this is the hour of suddenlies... Thus says God...He shall not tarry concerning us, many are the blessings that shall suddenly fall like the rain. Wow LH....am being taken in the Spirit right now, can barely type....whatever you are going through is finished....light is shinning on the darkness...my desert experience is over ...all is being restored.... Thank you Jesus....(((((((((hugs LH)))))))))) Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 the hebrew text actually reads 'in the beginning, gods created the heaven and the earth' because the plural noun elohim is used. the singular noun eloah would denote 'god'. Well, we still use Elohim today, and even though it does have the plural ending, it is used as a singular. I think it is more like the royal "we". We also use Adonai and Elohanu, which are singular. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hey Love Hurts... The Gap Theory is quite interesting and answers many questions. Some in the church today want to put God in a box and are stiff necked in doing so. When I read your posts I am so encouraged and freedom is what is being spoken....that is simply God. I have felt so far away from God, not having the discernment in most cases, unable to tell if it is God speaking or my flesh....The Lord revealed it was guilt and shame causing the distance.... I see deliverance for many in this area....also major deliverance concerning many things....the devil is a liar and is under Jesus's feet....He has crushed the enemy....my prayers are always with you LH, and we shall see the fruit of ALL labor shortly....this is the hour of suddenlies... Thus says God...He shall not tarry concerning us, many are the blessings that shall suddenly fall like the rain. Wow LH....am being taken in the Spirit right now, can barely type....whatever you are going through is finished....light is shinning on the darkness...my desert experience is over ...all is being restored.... Thank you Jesus....(((((((((hugs LH)))))))))) Pureinheart, I so enjoy you. You do lift my spirits. And when I read this: [Wow LH....am being taken in the Spirit right now, can barely type....whatever you are going through is finished....light is shinning on the darkness...my desert experience is over ...all is being restored.... Thank you Jesus....(((((((((hugs LH))))))))))] I got chills you brought a tear to my eyes. Praise Jesus! Pureinheart, tell me about the hour of suddenlies… [This is the hour of suddenlies...Thus says God...He shall not tarry concerning us, many are the blessings that shall suddenly fall like the rain.] Where do I find a scripture that tells me we are here? Do we look for showers of blessings in the last days? I didn’t know that… I thought we were in battle that we fight a good fight and go home? Right on! I’m ready for a shower of blessings. Do tell? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hey Love Hurts... The Gap Theory is quite interesting and answers many questions. Some in the church today want to put God in a box and are stiff necked in doing so. When I read your posts I am so encouraged and freedom is what is being spoken....that is simply God. I have felt so far away from God, not having the discernment in most cases, unable to tell if it is God speaking or my flesh....The Lord revealed it was guilt and shame causing the distance.... I see deliverance for many in this area....also major deliverance concerning many things....the devil is a liar and is under Jesus's feet....He has crushed the enemy....my prayers are always with you LH, and we shall see the fruit of ALL labor shortly....this is the hour of suddenlies... Thus says God...He shall not tarry concerning us, many are the blessings that shall suddenly fall like the rain. Wow LH....am being taken in the Spirit right now, can barely type....whatever you are going through is finished....light is shinning on the darkness...my desert experience is over ...all is being restored.... Thank you Jesus....(((((((((hugs LH)))))))))) Pureinheart, I understand … If we walk out of Gods will we get Chastised sometimes its through something like guilt that causes us to be ashamed and want to hide from God. Sometimes He seems to have given us gray skies on a sunny day and life feels empty and cold without Him. Its all about realizing we need to stay the course. We know He loves us and we strive to better the next time… as we grow in the Lord. The Lord telling you distinctly its guilt… is good. You know when God forgives us; He separates our sins from us…. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Psalm 103:12 You know why He said east from the west... As we can measure a distance from the North Pole to the South Pole...but there is no measurement from the East to the West one just passes the other with no line of measurement. (Never to recall them again) Since God has forgiven us when we take our transgressions to Him in prayer. Its our turn …now we need to forgive ourselves. To err is human; to forgive is divine …Can you forgive you? Yes you can; when you let go of punishing yourself… the guilt will leave you. The rest is healing and that takes time…. Sometimes quickly …sometimes slowly depending on how deep the wound is. Or if it keeps getting lanced open. Freedom From knows God has already forgiven us …. then its our turn. Amen ___ Hey on the stiff necked religion… Yo.. I know..lol. I like this line… “Somethings we are just not meant to discuss and we should only focus on what is important.” Daaaa lets tear out a few pages of Bible and pitch the rest…lol Lemon suckers… they couldn’t crack a smile if the sun were blaring a foot away from their face. I love John Haggee …he packs a real fruit punch… great humor in his fire and brimstone pulpit pounding, lemon-squashing, painfully hilarious teaching method. loloohlolyoy _______________ Praise Jesus all is being restored with you Pureinheart…I do claim your prophetic word of knowledge in my life. The Lord speaks to us through others. “I agree in prayer all is restored to you that you grow beyond this place by leaps and bounds with no setbacks. That you have complete Freedom From in every aspect of the situation the enemy had you in. In Jesus name you are at a new level of discernment of the spirit that the Lord may work through you uninhibited by the enemy, that new unasked for blessings come in the morning your JOY in the Lord restored.” Praise Jesus from whom all blessings flow…Amen Praise Jesus for your words of knowledge through Him. Love your way Pureinheart… looking forward to home… and those showers of blessings in the hour of suddenlies!!! The skylight is open. God Bless you PIH…Torches High* Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Oh Love Hurts....I just praise God and am screaming it this night...the power of satan is BROKEN... Father we thank you and give YOU the praise and the glory....PRAISE YOU JESUS!!!!!!! A few years back when I was in VA, the Lord told me to stand in the rain because each drop contained a blessing....I stood in the rain a lot....at that time the Lord told me to read Joel chapter 2....the early and the latter rains....He also had this "sand" thing going on too.... I was going back and forth from VA Beach to CA....He prompted me to take some VA Beach sand to CA Long Beach and spread it there....then He said to take some Long Beach sand to VA Beach and spread it there....then he said to mix the two sands. I gave everyone the mixed sand for Christmas that year so that they could be blessed....to this day I still have not received the reason for this, but I have the sand in caraffs on my shelf.....every time my daughter goes to the beach she brings me sand....lol....I felt like Ezekiel....now am waiting for God to tell me to wrap myself up and lay in the middle of town....lol.... I just love John Hagee....he has been exposing a lot, and has had people in his services that are exposing that mess over in the middle east....there is a price on their heads for talking...some serious stuff. God bless you LH.....record the vision!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 Oh Love Hurts....I just praise God and am screaming it this night...the power of satan is BROKEN... Father we thank you and give YOU the praise and the glory....PRAISE YOU JESUS!!!!!!! A few years back when I was in VA, the Lord told me to stand in the rain because each drop contained a blessing....I stood in the rain a lot....at that time the Lord told me to read Joel chapter 2....the early and the latter rains....He also had this "sand" thing going on too.... I was going back and forth from VA Beach to CA....He prompted me to take some VA Beach sand to CA Long Beach and spread it there....then He said to take some Long Beach sand to VA Beach and spread it there....then he said to mix the two sands. I gave everyone the mixed sand for Christmas that year so that they could be blessed....to this day I still have not received the reason for this, but I have the sand in caraffs on my shelf.....every time my daughter goes to the beach she brings me sand....lol....I felt like Ezekiel....now am waiting for God to tell me to wrap myself up and lay in the middle of town....lol.... I just love John Hagee....he has been exposing a lot, and has had people in his services that are exposing that mess over in the middle east....there is a price on their heads for talking...some serious stuff. God bless you LH.....record the vision!!!!!!!! Woah! All Right! … You sure are flying now. This is where you bask in the Sunlight! What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger and your wiser today; than yesterday. The Lord is with you…. Praise Jesus! Victory over the enemy is Exhilarating! God is good Pureinheart… Enjoy… The sand? Mixed can you tell one grain from the next? Interesting riddle? God has reason; I’m certain one-day will be clear… He uses us in various ways and each of us has unique gifts. Lets keep John Haggee in our prayers against the attack of the enemy. And [Record the vision] I’ll search for it… It is so good to hear Good News! God Bless PIH; keep on keeping on… One day at a time sweet Jesus.* Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 This is pretty cool... check it out. [COLOR=#465584][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#800080]Every Eye Will See Him[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hey Love Hurts.... We will have nothing but good news and praise reports and I speak it into existance.... Record the vision is in Isaiah 50 or 60 something....it is a very good thing evangalizing is not my major gift....lol....have knowledge of much scripture, although cannot tell you where it's at....it's even worse now, I used to be priddy sharp (still couldn't tell ya where the scripture is at, but it's worse now) but have been through so much change that am kinda numb at times.... I honestly believe that we are in the eleventh hour....some say it needs to get much worse....well maybe they have not yet touched reality? It is bad NOW, and the stage is set, all is ready for rapture. In the beginning of 1999 the Lord fell on me in a supernatural way. I began to operate heavily in the gifts which made it essential for major cleansing and purging. He began to de-program my mind...for a solid year I was so hypersensitive that I was unable to be around television, radio and for the mostpart, people. This cleansing made it possible to hear God all of the time in a very clear way. Since then God has been speaking major blessings of all sorts....this has not made sense given the day and hour that we are in. Some may be inclined to say that it is my "mind" speaking, trying to encourage myself...that would be truth if it weren't for the continuous confirmation and miracles that I personally witnessed. In the midst of utter kaos, we shall be far above it, and the outpouring of Gods Spirit will be so spectacular, that you would not believe it if I were to tell you....God says that He shall do a thing in our day that if He were to tell us we would not believe it....God goes against the grain so to speak...His ways are not ours. The worse it gets the more God will pour out His Spirit....THANK YOU JESUS!!!!! LH you are truely blessed and I speak to the finances and call forth abundance for you and yours In Jesus precious name....the name above all names....Father please rise up your intercessors concerning this matter, let all financial stress be lifted....GBU Love Hurts.... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 Pureinheart, I think I got a sign here? It happened two days ago already and it is now today coming back to me as more than. You know the; blessings raining down… you were talking and praying about? I had made the comment I have the skylight open… which I meant, in a non- literal sense, as the window actually open. But in the sense my body and soul are ready to receive any and all-good things Jesus desires to give me. (The window to Heaven and to the top of my head open) To my knowledge our actual skylight was closed. It has rained and not one drop of water has come in. My oldest son was standing beneath it and it began to hail, I could hear the hailstones pinging off the glass. He looked up to watch the window cover with them and suddenly they were coming in the house. Pinging on the floor. He said the windows open. Hailstones were coming in the house. I looked up and said, “that’s funny, rain hasn’t come in. Obviously its not sealed tight shut.” Talk about sealing it or opening it… its not easy to reach… it requires an extended pole to reach and rather than get the pole, the kids suggest it would be nice if it were open. I kinda like it like that… I don’t want anyone breaking glass by accident. I like to think I am more careful (so not to buy it twice). I’ve even made the pole difficult to get too by putting it in the back of the closet. What I am saying is I am primarily the only one that will open and close it and the last I recall closing it was November… Here we are in January… Now don’t you think its amazing that a drop of water hasn’t come in that window in a minimum of say 8 weeks could be more...? And those tiny stones of ice did? Through some air space that has apparently been between the rubber seals for many weeks; not being sealed up tight. Is it strange to you that liquid could not find its way in… and that ice did? I like to think it’s a sign Pureinheart… God moves in mysterious ways…and perhaps we can miss something like this if we don’t see it as a sign. I believe the Lord is speaking through you to me and that he sent me ice instead of water ...Initially; because when they hit the floor they were quickly turning into water. It looks like it was raining through my open skylight literally Pureinheart… If it were a drop of water… I could have missed it… I think it took ice to get my attention. I need to Praise Jesus for finding a way to impress me…and tell me this is the season of suddenlies...not certain what it is yet Pureinheart… I think its upon me. I Praise Jesus for ice water… and the blessings He intends to shower me with… Thank you Pureinheart … im just in awe and stunned here as I am coming to grips with this (approx. 48 hrs. later) through typing it…. It’s a very mellow moment for me…Praise God from whom all blessings flow… You’re walking with the Lord its even more obvious to me..Pureinheart you prayed showers of blessings come and this is even more difficult...My Sign that they are.. How do we put ice in an airspace; that liquid has adamantly resisted? *He did. Tears as I say God Bless* Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hey Love Hurts.... We will have nothing but good news and praise reports and I speak it into existance.... Record the vision is in Isaiah 50 or 60 something....it is a very good thing evangalizing is not my major gift....lol....have knowledge of much scripture, although cannot tell you where it's at....it's even worse now, I used to be priddy sharp (still couldn't tell ya where the scripture is at, but it's worse now) but have been through so much change that am kinda numb at times.... I honestly believe that we are in the eleventh hour....some say it needs to get much worse....well maybe they have not yet touched reality? It is bad NOW, and the stage is set, all is ready for rapture. In the beginning of 1999 the Lord fell on me in a supernatural way. I began to operate heavily in the gifts which made it essential for major cleansing and purging. He began to de-program my mind...for a solid year I was so hypersensitive that I was unable to be around television, radio and for the mostpart, people. This cleansing made it possible to hear God all of the time in a very clear way. Since then God has been speaking major blessings of all sorts....this has not made sense given the day and hour that we are in. Some may be inclined to say that it is my "mind" speaking, trying to encourage myself...that would be truth if it weren't for the continuous confirmation and miracles that I personally witnessed. In the midst of utter kaos, we shall be far above it, and the outpouring of Gods Spirit will be so spectacular, that you would not believe it if I were to tell you....God says that He shall do a thing in our day that if He were to tell us we would not believe it....God goes against the grain so to speak...His ways are not ours. The worse it gets the more God will pour out His Spirit....THANK YOU JESUS!!!!! LH you are truely blessed and I speak to the finances and call forth abundance for you and yours In Jesus precious name....the name above all names....Father please rise up your intercessors concerning this matter, let all financial stress be lifted....GBU Love Hurts.... My God My God… Pureinheart… you do have a special line to Jesus. I believe it. I feel the spirit when I read your prayers… It just comes through the window... in more ways than one. The Lord listens when you pray… the two of us in prayer can move mountains. Praise Jesus for the Power of Prayer. Especially your prayers… I must add. He answers …sometimes quickly sometimes slowly… and sometimes if we are not paying attention... we may miss a sign. Pureinheart I just love you… you do lift my spirits. What a lovely soul you are. It’s an honor and a privy to have met you on this side first as we wait on Him. If we never hear from one another again in this life... know I will never forget you, know you are in my prayers and looking forward to seeing you soon. [We will have nothing but good news and praise reports and I speak it into existence.... The worse it gets the more God will pour out His Spirit...THANK YOU JESUS!!!!!] YES…. PRAISE JESUS THANK YOU JESUS!!!! ITS GOING TO RAIN- RAIN -RAIN DOWN BLESSINGS…. YES IT SURE IS… ITS COMING... PRAISE JESUS! The Lord is moving in this place. He is moving…. He is here… He is with us… we are never alone when we walk with Jesus… I claim the blessings you have prayed over my finances and me and double it back to you Pureinheart and I do Praise Jesus he has given you a voice for Him, I Praise Him for what you speak and see in His precious name. Oh we are in the days of an abundance of His Spirit poured out. What a Joy what a time in the Lord to be alive. It’s a gift… we are so blessed to live in these times. And the best is yet to come. Its good to know we are sisters in the Lord. We are united in Christ* Pureinheart do always keep me in your prayers as you have that extra special connection with Jesus. Some have it I’ve seen it before… Its something extra in your Holy Spirit! John Haggee said his father was the minister but his mothers prayers could move mountains. She had a special connection through the Holy Spirit. My God you stood in the rain and soaked up every drop as a blessing. You prayed for me and I got ice water… that’s a good one…its more than water. What sign. God is good and you sure can send a prayer on the wings of a dove or the dart of an arrow. I’ve been pressing against and slowly nudging mountains pureinheart…united in prayer we will MOVE MOUNTAINS BY JESUS. Yes these certainly are the good days in the midst of a storm its so strangely wonderfully peaceful... isn’t it wonderful to Love Jesus …Jesus in us and in our sisters and brothers in this world Oh what a time...what a time to be alive...its good…its all good... I Love y-our power in Prayer! And I Love rounding up the lost souls on Our Way… Home! God Bless Pureinheart.................................Jesus Lives* Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I looked at that site and am actually like the 'Gap' theory - I've deduced it myself when I read the bible as it help reconcile the concept of pre-historic entities such as dinosaurs (where there is clear evidence for), as well as pre-historic civilisations. So, you dont have to accept a literal seven day creation story - the way I see it is sort of like a nuclear winter caused by the asteroid crash (i.e. fall of Lucifer) which caused the extincion of the Dinosaurs and raised huge clouds of dust in the atmosphere. When the dust starts settling, then the creation story would appear to be a chronology of events following the dust settling down. (i.e. Light and darkness starts when some of the dust falls down from the clouds of dust, allowing some light to pass. As more dust falls, the star and moon become distinguishable, and the stars. Eventually you have a clearer sky as more dust settles and as sufficent light is passing through the sky, vegetation can again thrive as can animals. So in a sense of the term, everyting is 're-created' from the first version. Humans are created out of the dust. -- Maybe science cant be perfectly reconciled with the Bible, but I like the Gap theory too) I'm unsure about reading into the Book of Enoch through, as this is where most of the 'origin of demons, etc...' are coming from. And I think meditation on those books, the Seven books of Moses, and other literature that I believe may be not only non-cannonical, but possibly occultic, is very dangerous. There are some things not worth knowing that only function to drive people crazy. All that we need to know is that as true born-again Christians, Jesus has already defeated the devil, and we have power to bind and cast any demon out in Jesus name, and to be sure of that power. We dont need to know where they came from or anything further other than knowing we, through Jesus, have power over them. The second thing we also need to know, it's a good idea NOT to sin, because if you do sin, you are giving legal rights away to your worst enemy and opening 'doorways'. Any further knowledge than this is unnnecessary and potantially dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 I looked at that site and am actually like the 'Gap' theory - I've deduced it myself when I read the bible as it help reconcile the concept of pre-historic entities such as dinosaurs (where there is clear evidence for), as well as pre-historic civilisations. So, you dont have to accept a literal seven day creation story - the way I see it is sort of like a nuclear winter caused by the asteroid crash (i.e. fall of Lucifer) which caused the extincion of the Dinosaurs and raised huge clouds of dust in the atmosphere. When the dust starts settling, then the creation story would appear to be a chronology of events following the dust settling down. (i.e. Light and darkness starts when some of the dust falls down from the clouds of dust, allowing some light to pass. As more dust falls, the star and moon become distinguishable, and the stars. Eventually you have a clearer sky as more dust settles and as sufficent light is passing through the sky, vegetation can again thrive as can animals. So in a sense of the term, everyting is 're-created' from the first version. Humans are created out of the dust. -- Maybe science cant be perfectly reconciled with the Bible, but I like the Gap theory too) I'm unsure about reading into the Book of Enoch through, as this is where most of the 'origin of demons, etc...' are coming from. And I think meditation on those books, the Seven books of Moses, and other literature that I believe may be not only non-cannonical, but possibly occultic, is very dangerous. There are some things not worth knowing that only function to drive people crazy. All that we need to know is that as true born-again Christians, Jesus has already defeated the devil, and we have power to bind and cast any demon out in Jesus name, and to be sure of that power. We dont need to know where they came from or anything further other than knowing we, through Jesus, have power over them. The second thing we also need to know, it's a good idea NOT to sin, because if you do sin, you are giving legal rights away to your worst enemy and opening 'doorways'. Any further knowledge than this is unnnecessary and potantially dangerous. Admiral Thrawn, I am delighted you feel more settled mentally having seen the Gap Theory as a missing link to our past. I like it too the first time I read it and heard it I just slept easier considering the clues to our past are in the word. I intend to respond to your post... I need to post these notes first.. Great... bare with me.. Here are a few more supportive scriptures. Consider every time God has created... it is. (It is…complete and perfect in His eyes) What Happened? Do we have a contradiction in Gen.2 and Isah 45:18 Genesis1. In the beginning God *created the heaven and the earth. -Isah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, *He created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. Genesis 2 And the earth was without form, and void; (What happened? God did not create in vain… Isah 45:18) and darkness was upon the face of the deep. (We can associate Satan and death with Darkness and perhaps something about the light.) And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (Was God brooding his lost souls to satanic corruption and eternal damnation because of Satans fall?) Admiral also consider the War in Heaven WAR IN HEAVEN… Rev.12: 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the Accuser… of our brethren {? (What brethren? …Was Satan accusing Angelic beings or men on earth) is cast down, which *Accused them before our God day and night. We know Satan is the *Accuser of man. Job 2: 1-6 Satan is the accuser. Job shows us how Satan does *Accuse. ____________________ And again…. Satan was already on earth in the Garden of Eden with Adam…as a serpent. Showing support in; he had already been cast down to ground…where Kings of Nations past, had… obeyed him. In the beginning; In the Garden of Eden … Adam was the first man and the serpent WAS on the ground. In order to see Nations on earth, and Satan cast down to earth. We must go back before Adam. We can find the truths in scripture. Such as: Rev 20: 13 Genesis 1 -2 Isah 45:18 ____ BRB… Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Now Satan is a limited being but he has thrones Lucifer held as the Morning star ...equated with Light.. We know Lucifer was created by Jesus for Jesus. Ezekiel 28:14 -16 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon.... the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. In the Third Heaven of 2 Cor. 12:2 Gods Throne is the Holy Mountain. Daniel 9:20 And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God; 2 Cor. 12:2 as he was in the throne room Gods Holy Mountain...in the Third Heaven.... He also traveled to and fro THE HEAVENS...We could consider he was caretaker of earth...to watch over... 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.- created it was...perfect. IN HERE SATAN FELL FROM GRACE.... Isaiah 14; 12 -24 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Spirit of God moved upon the face of waters...it was flooded. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Consider God did not completely remake the world but added... in vs three He added light. We can see Lucifer was.... special at one time to Jesus. He was in the throne room of God and was given earth to watch over.... Was he the light of the morning? Can we imagine his light may have been the light of that lit the earth? That his light was the sun of the morning? Lucifer being cast to the earth… So went the Sun of the morning? IN Gen. 3 God added light He did not recreate the world. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And there was no darkness. Until vs.2 ? Isaiah 14:12-14 How art thou fallen from Heaven oh Lucifer... Oh SUN of the MORNING? How art thou cast to the ground, which did weaken the ..Nations? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 I looked at that site and am actually like the 'Gap' theory - I've deduced it myself when I read the bible as it help reconcile the concept of pre-historic entities such as dinosaurs (where there is clear evidence for), as well as pre-historic civilisations. So, you dont have to accept a literal seven day creation story - the way I see it is sort of like a nuclear winter caused by the asteroid crash (i.e. fall of Lucifer) which caused the extincion of the Dinosaurs and raised huge clouds of dust in the atmosphere. When the dust starts settling, then the creation story would appear to be a chronology of events following the dust settling down. (i.e. Light and darkness starts when some of the dust falls down from the clouds of dust, allowing some light to pass. As more dust falls, the star and moon become distinguishable, and the stars. Eventually you have a clearer sky as more dust settles and as sufficent light is passing through the sky, vegetation can again thrive as can animals. So in a sense of the term, everyting is 're-created' from the first version. Humans are created out of the dust. -- Maybe science cant be perfectly reconciled with the Bible, but I like the Gap theory too) I'm unsure about reading into the Book of Enoch through, as this is where most of the 'origin of demons, etc...' are coming from. And I think meditation on those books, the Seven books of Moses, and other literature that I believe may be not only non-cannonical, but possibly occultic, is very dangerous. There are some things not worth knowing that only function to drive people crazy. All that we need to know is that as true born-again Christians, Jesus has already defeated the devil, and we have power to bind and cast any demon out in Jesus name, and to be sure of that power. We dont need to know where they came from or anything further other than knowing we, through Jesus, have power over them. The second thing we also need to know, it's a good idea NOT to sin, because if you do sin, you are giving legal rights away to your worst enemy and opening 'doorways'. Any further knowledge than this is unnnecessary and potantially dangerous. As far as Gods creations…in six days and the seventh for rest. It is undisturbed. It is just as He said..Its why we focus on the Gap between one and two… to see a world that was and isn’t any longer Shhhhh its like a secret and we have to peek into the crack of one and two…. See it? And nothing is disturbed… its just that we see more from here… lol Sorry Admiral I don’t see a nuclear winter….I see water here. We can see the earth was created and then its flooded...to destroy the inhabitance... And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. No word of God has been changed. Consider God knew we would question fossil finds, dinosaurs and Neanderthals. Its here the answers we would seek are in the book… Lucifers fall to Kings of Nations on earth that obeyed him. Now we can equate scientific finds to Biblical Truths… I Love It! ______________ Not to read certain Books? Just not so… If you’re not a minor and you are of mental intelligence to read and understand the word of God there is no reason any should be left out… Younger children have youth Bibles… and are kept from until of age. As young adults we should be prepared to know the word in full. Its all Gods word is it not? We do not put aside certain books… We are not to be selective in the word the Lord has give us.. Know God the Father Jesus the Son and The Holy Spirit.. Likewise know Satan, demons.. and the rest. About Satan and demons… if you do not want to read and know of them… It’s a sign you do not believe they exist… many do not believe in the devil or hell…. Many do not believe in all of Gods word. Have no fear my friend… Gods word is to edify. If it makes you ill or not; read the Word.. To understand we have to read and know it… all of it. Have NO FEAR in the Lord… God Bless Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Love Hurts....you are truely a blessing to me and we are a divine connection....remember when I asked you to pray for me? The Lord told me to, as I am not one to request prayer, but I saw the anointing to break yokes of bondage...it was so powerful....and the Lord used you to break it....LH...I was in some bad shape...thank you, for giving to the Lord, I have a life that was changed. Thank you, for giving to the Lord, I am so glad you gave! Honor? The honor is definitely mine....for the Lord being so gracious to me, letting me meet such a blessed precious sister in the Lord! We WILL move the mountains because I know that I know, this is our day and hour, I have been waiting for this for a long time and it is here, and know it beyond any shadow of a doubt. This is a very special time in our lives, where all is brought to the forefront....Gods promises to us are taking place....a lifetime of knowledge, knowing various things that God was going to do and wondering where they were....well they are here. I really feel it LH....very strong....get ready to receive...((((HUGS)))))! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Love Hurts....you are truely a blessing to me and we are a divine connection....remember when I asked you to pray for me? The Lord told me to, as I am not one to request prayer, but I saw the anointing to break yokes of bondage...it was so powerful....and the Lord used you to break it....LH...I was in some bad shape...thank you, for giving to the Lord, I have a life that was changed. Thank you, for giving to the Lord, I am so glad you gave! Honor? The honor is definitely mine....for the Lord being so gracious to me, letting me meet such a blessed precious sister in the Lord! We WILL move the mountains because I know that I know, this is our day and hour, I have been waiting for this for a long time and it is here, and know it beyond any shadow of a doubt. This is a very special time in our lives, where all is brought to the forefront....Gods promises to us are taking place....a lifetime of knowledge, knowing various things that God was going to do and wondering where they were....well they are here. I really feel it LH....very strong....get ready to receive...((((HUGS)))))! I know this place; the place of a lifetime of knowledge, knowing various things that God was going to do and wondering where they were. Through visions and promises, Whispers of what will be and told to hold on a little longer, to keep the faith, to be patient. Yes! I too have been shown and told things that are not. I Know This Place You Speak of---- I am aware and know again, You Speak Truth. We know this place. It does exist. It’s a secret place… What Awesome insight; to lay claim to that place; that place of …Gods Whispers… You say; “I know that I know”…indeed you do… Again Pureinheart, you right there through Prayer… the Holy Spirit knows this place of Gods Whisperings to us. The Holy Spirit knows this place and He speaks out from within you …God knows this place of; A lifetime of knowledge… knowing various things that God was going to do…. And wondering? Where they were. The secrets of my heart and soul are locked into that place…. Waiting on Him to fulfill the promises. My God Pureinheart…you are anointed in the Holy Spirit…of all things to lay claim to in Jesus Name… The Secret Whispers of God… I Praise Jesus for this unique word of knowledge you have been given… It is truly our time to receive the promises of the Whisperings of God… He said He cannot lie. And He is backing that up… through this proclamation of the Holy Spirit speaking out reminding us again…of things promised yet to be fulfilled… You say, “Well they are here.” ...Pureinheart its feeling like Christmas is coming all over again! Praise Jesus who cannot tell a lie, He has recalled things I have let slip from my mind and locked in my heart. Thank you Father in Jesus name for the anointed words Pureinheart speaks. Truly you speak through her… what blessing in these times to hear you so clearly through another. To hear reminders of the Promises you have whispered to her and to myself. I am ever so grateful and lay claim to receive the long awaited promises only you Jesus could know of. Thank you Jesus for the Special Anointing of the Holy Spirit upon Pureinheart… Amen. And Highest!!!! Of Praise to Jesus!!! From whom all Blessings Flow. God Bless Pureinheart …{You Do So Keep Amazing Me… to Awe. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 2006 was a year of great challenge and also great victories for many in the Body of Christ. There were great battles and great shifts that the Lord asked many to press through. Many shifted in areas they weren't anticipating making a shift in and had to deal with disappointment or discouragement in the midst of the year. But in the midst of the testing and the battle, God prepared His people for the new season that we have stepped into. 2007 promises to be a year of great favor, influence and fresh prophetic revelation and apostolic power. We cannot be afraid of changes in this new season as God continues to move us forward into His purposes. Seven is the number of completion and perfection, the end of a cycle before new beginnings. It involves a finishing anointing, a year to see long-standing issues resolved and prophetic purposes and promises fulfilled. God completed His creation process on the sixth day then rested on the seventh day. Though this will be a continued season of pressing the battle to the full, there is an incredible divine rest of faith that is releasing the shalom resource of the Spirit to propel us into possessing our promised land. We are moving from just a D-Day of breakthrough to VE Day of finalizing of a phase of warfare. It is a time to go from a place of impossibility to miraculous accomplishment. This is a time of great breakthrough and victory. God is releasing a Zerubbabel – Finishing Anointing – Grace, grace to every mountain of opposition: Hey Love Hurts, I thought this was really interesting....found it on a prophecy site...... Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The above portion of a word was by Jane Hamon....this next one is from a panel of Elders..... Moving from Mission Impossible to Mission Accomplished "2007 is the year of moving from 'Mission Impossible' to ' Mission Accomplished.' It is a year of perfecting, completing, and finishing." Here are some "finishing's" that will take place: 1. Finishing of a building cycle. Time for new building strategies to be released. 2. Finishing of the five-fold ministry restored. Apostolic and Prophetic moving together. 3. Finishing anointing for shifting the courts in America . The nation is hanging in the balance. We cannot miss this window of opportunity for change. 4. Political times of realignment. War against the Jezebel spirit of influence. 5. Finishing anointing for the release of miracles. 6. Finishing anointing for the release of transfer of wealth. Many deals that are in the balance will be completed. Satan has set up strongholds that are ancient and must be torn down to shift wealth to the Body of Christ. 7. Harvest Season is upon us. Revival, revival. The youth are going to wake up on university campuses. 8. The closing of one chapter in our lives and the beginning of a new season. Don't hold onto the old when God wants to move you into the new. Complete in 2007, so you can move into the new thing in 2008. 9. Finishing of bondage cycles. Season of captivity being broken over our personal lives, corporate visions, and national foundations. Bible reading was taken out of U.S. public schools in 1967, and it is time to end the 40 years of wandering in the wilderness. This is the year to read the Bible in school! The Year of the Clash of the Swords The year according to the Jewish calendar is 5767. It is the year of the clash of the swords. The warfare this year on a personal level, will be to try and stop you from completing. The number seven stands for completion. It is a year for arms and weapons. We are in a seven-year war cycle through the end of 2007, and so this is the year to press in to press the enemy back from your gates, and to complete the battle that has been raging all around us. Do not be intimidated by the battle, for God will give you a two-edged sword to win this battle. The enemy will rise up with a vengeance, but we will have discernment to deal with it. This is not a season for passivity. Satan has released his "chatter" into the Heavenly realm to try and stop you from pursuing the things of God. This chatter will cause diversions such as family problems, financial lack, and even just general complacency. If you become passive now, you will not press into your destiny and obtain the promises of God. The Tongue will be Likened to a Sword "The tongue can be likened to a sword, so this is the year to get your tongue and what you say lined up with what God says about your life." Release your faith for the prophetic promises that God has given you to come to pass. Whatever are the dreams in your heart, do not be intimidated by the tremendous warfare. God is faithful and you can only loose the battle if you quit. Begin to say what God says, and He will give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation knowledge that you need. Declarations that we have made in the past will have a powerful exclamation point! 2007 is the year to possess the promise. Beware of satan trying to stir up problems between close friends, family, and associates in this year because it is the year of the clashing of the swords. Bind satan from influencing you and those around you. Jacob and Esau will try to clash, but refuse to participate. Just as Jacob sent presents before him (Genesis 32:18), so you are to send blessings before you. Ask God for the strategy to open the hearts of those who are stirred up against you. Watch for the trap of fornication and adultery, and beware of seducing spirits. This is a year of purifying motives and holiness in thought and actions. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hey Love Hurts.... I've been interested in the prophetic words since the year 2000...the year 2000 and 2007 are extremely significant....in 2000 the word from everyone was not to be offended, not to take offence....now this year is the year of completion. Because I was in sin for so long I could not get the full revelation, but knew the number 7 is completion and have felt the presense of blessing....two very good years ahead, 2008 is new beginnings... I sense the presense of God very heavily even though my flesh is in operation.... Could I ask you to pray that I will be moved into a fast, need to fast....normally live life in a fast and haven't for about 2 yrs now and feel heavy and am unable to receive....am depressed because of so much food in my system.... Praise God.... Father, thank you for Love Hurts, I speak complete blessing over her and her children, and their children... Deliver us Lord and move any darkness that prevails...speak to our hearts with words of encouragement and move all depression, fear and frustration....move by the power of Your Spirit ....I speak release.... Father, please remove the desire for food and replace it with desire for You....take hold of my appetite that is seeking love through food....for man cannot live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God....Father heal us from the inside out.... Father we ask You place confusion in the enemy camp and cause the enemy to battle each other....keep our ememies busy with no time to think about us and ways to attack us... The Lord says be anxious for nothing, this is the due season of blessing and favor....He says there is time, and to be still and know that He is God. Love Hurts, God is restoring all for you, the tables have turned...you will be hit on all sides with love..... I just love you!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Father in Jesus name I hold up Pureinheart that she be led by the Spirit into a fast as she previously lived in a fast to regain that daily fasting for the food of the Spirit. That she may increase in her words of knowledge through the Spirit. That wisdom and insight come through the Spirit. The Lion of the Holy Spirit within her fed strong. Will sense the enemy presence before she can mentally recognize him and speak out against in Jesus Precious Name. Her direction, convictions and guidance in the Lord sharpened. The prophetic word of God will come from the Lions Spirit within. Praise Jesus form whom all blessings flow… with God before us … whom can be against us. In Jesus name we pray… Amen. Fasting the last run…may your Spirit take on a Jesus Roar! Pureinhart God Bless.. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Love Hurts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 The words of Jane Hamon. and the panel of Elders is a reread.. Very inspirational! Thank you Pureinheart for sharing. These are Good Days to live in… God Bless us in the days of Gods mercy and Goodness poured out in good measure. Torches High!* Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Praise God....thank you soooo much Love Hurts.....Father standing in agreement with many of the saints, ask that you bless Love Hurts beyond all human comprehension, and ask that the favor from You would be a witness to all.... this word is from Kim Clement for this year.... [sIZE=4]Multiplied Vision [/sIZE][sIZE=2][sIZE=1] [sIZE=2]A few months ago, I was impressed by the Spirit to prepare the people of God for the departure of certain Generals in the Kingdom, for the purpose of multiplying their vision and their ministries throughout the earth. The first was Billy Graham, and the other Oral Roberts. [/sIZE] [sIZE=2]Before I share this with you, I would like to mention a few things. The only way that you can multiply in the material world is by first multiplying your vision or sight. I have prophesied that we have begun a season of multiplication or “accelerationâ€, and a lot of people have experienced tremendous multiplication; however there are many who have not, and obviously they question why they have been left out. Well, they haven’t been left out, because God rains upon the just and the unjust, and whether you are just or unjust, the showers are available to any believer. [/sIZE] [sIZE=2] The prophet mentions in Hosea 12:10 that God has spoken by the prophet and multiplied visions. I read a few versions of this, and gained an understanding of what this scripture is saying. God is saying that in giving or sending prophets to the people, their “vision†has multiplied; and the prophetic anointing in your life (first and foremost) gives you keen insight into the King of Kings – Jesus Christ. [/sIZE] [sIZE=2] When God sends you a prophet, whether from a distance or personally, the one great benefit is that your “visionâ€, which is “the ability to see, dream and imagine the future with wisdom and imaginationâ€, is not only sharpened, but it is multiplied; so you have the ability to see further. [/sIZE] [sIZE=2] When you see further, you can live longer. For example, look at Abraham and his experience with God. [/sIZE] [sIZE=2] In Genesis 15, Abraham was questioning his future, and he asked God if the heir of his house was Eleazar of Damascus. Abraham was asking these questions of God simply because he was growing old and it was beginning to look like he was not going to bring forth a son. [/sIZE] [sIZE=2] God assured him that the heir would come from his body. Abraham believed God and it was settled. Abraham then asked God how he would know that he would inherit the land, and God specified what kind of offering Abraham was to give. He was to lay his offering on the earth. Abraham would yield a son from his body, but the son would need land in order to become a Nation. [/sIZE] [sIZE=2] Abraham had dedicated his body to the Lord, and therefore was a living sacrifice. The earth was cursed, and therefore in order for God to release the land to Abraham He required him to make a “prophetic offering†on the earth. When Abraham did this, God removed the veil that was blocking the future, and showed him the Nation (the promise of his son) far in the future, in bondage, and then their exodus with great possession. So Abraham saw further, very far into the future. But here is what I want you to see. As a result of multiplied vision, God said to Abraham; “As for you, you will go to the grave at a ripe old age!†[/sIZE] [sIZE=2] Abraham’s body lived longer because he saw further. Multiplied vision has tremendous benefits, and anyone who defies a prophetic gift sent from God is actually refusing multiplied vision and longer life...[/sIZE] [/sIZE] [/sIZE] Link to post Share on other sites
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