norajane Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 When did making 40k a year make a guy a loser ? As well as owning his own tow truck ? That would show me a drive to succeed.. Within 5-10 years he might own 20 tow trucks and be worth 2 million.. you have to start somewhere and women know it.. It also shows that he is willing to put his money where his mouth is in buying the Tow Truck..the next move.. buying a home is only a step away Word! Tow trucks, mechanics, snow plow guys - those guys are the ones with boats and second homes in the Caribbean. Link to post Share on other sites
Porn_Guy Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 When did making 40k a year make a guy a loser ? the average american male earns around $40,000/yr. Link to post Share on other sites
magichands Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Word! Tow trucks, mechanics, snow plow guys - those guys are the ones with boats and second homes in the Caribbean. Not to mention sizeable penises. Link to post Share on other sites
Porn_Guy Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Not to mention sizeable penises. yep....hahaha Link to post Share on other sites
norajane Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Not to mention sizeable penises. The truck may be big or small, but you can count on them to know how to work their equipment. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I didn't say they were losers. I said I'm viewed as a loser, because I'm back in school and not making 40k. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I didn't say they were losers. I said I'm viewed as a loser, because I'm back in school and not making 40k. It never occurred to me that you're a loser. Of all the people I've seen you interact with on this site, you're the only one who seems to have that opinion of you. I think being in school is a good thing. A lot of people can't even get into grad school. And a lot of people would gladly take a break from their careers to go back to school. A lot of people can't do that, and so they spend their lives doing things just to get by. You need to learn to be proud of yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
magichands Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Of all the people I've seen you interact with on this site, you're the only one who seems to have that opinion of you. That's not quite true. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 It never occurred to me that you're a loser. Of all the people I've seen you interact with on this site, you're the only one who seems to have that opinion of you. I think being in school is a good thing. A lot of people can't even get into grad school. And a lot of people would gladly take a break from their careers to go back to school. A lot of people can't do that, and so they spend their lives doing things just to get by. You need to learn to be proud of yourself.Well I appreciate that, but in the real world most women view you as a loser if you don't have a career earning decent $$ at 32. And if you tell them you're going to be a librarian you're done for. You can see the look of contempt in their eyes when they talk to you. My last gf would constantly tell me that it was a career for spinsters and fagg*ts and that she had no respect for me. That's the real world. Link to post Share on other sites
magichands Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 And if you tell them you're going to be a librarian you're done for. There is a reason the photocopier is almost always broken. Link to post Share on other sites
Porn_Guy Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 My last gf would constantly tell me that it was a career for spinsters and fagg*ts and that she had no respect for me. um thats fairly true from what i've seen. Link to post Share on other sites
norajane Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Well I appreciate that, but in the real world most women view you as a loser if you don't have a career earning decent $$ at 32. And if you tell them you're going to be a librarian you're done for. You can see the look of contempt in their eyes when they talk to you. My last gf would constantly tell me that it was a career for spinsters and fagg*ts and that she had no respect for me. That's the real world. You're haning out with the wrong people, then. It's them, not you. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 You're haning out with the wrong people, then. It's them, not you. Unless burning agrees with them. Then it's him, too. Link to post Share on other sites
magichands Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 You're haning out with the wrong people, then. Do what I do. Join a group of losers. You'll feel more like a winner. It's all about context. Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Amerikajin, I'm in the same exact boat. Like you I'm 32 and like you I'm in grad school and like you I just moved back to my parents house. I'm nine hours into my program and should finish by December, but otherwise it's exactly the same. And you're right. WOmen think you're a loser even though you're in grad school and working on your education unlike the guy who owns a tow truck and makes 40k. It doesn't matter. You're still a loser... $40k and owning a tow truck isn't all that bad. Grad school was fun when I was in it. I got to meet people and yes lived with parents while in college and graduate school. Word! Tow trucks, mechanics, snow plow guys - those guys are the ones with boats and second homes in the Caribbean. Might be the next Wayne Huizenga, granted can't own the Dolphins. well yea...at least the tow truck guy can afford to take her to McDonalds for a combo meal. buah ahahhaah hahahh ha.... Or if you PO the guy, he might tow you away! :lmao: Only works if they own the truck. There is money if you own the shop, the truck, business, otherwise you'll be pulling a paycheck of $40k instead of $400k. Granted if you mess up, its minus $40k after payroll. AmericanKaijan, welcome back to the states. I have experienced your issues of education and living at home. Not a big selling point for some women; at least the ones I'm after. Like you mentioned it is temporary. The experiment sounds fun. Reminds me of Norah Vincent who wrote Self Made Man she posed as a man to discover that it is not easy to be a man. I'm curious of the results. Link to post Share on other sites
Green Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 By the way the OP isnt in grad school yet he's just planning on going after the summer. Look u may or may not get more action over the net with ur new profile that doesnt mean all women or the girls ud like to meet want a guy just because of making lots of money. Nothings wrong with living at home but if u want to be attractive to the oposite sex u need ambition and the drive to be attemtping ur goals in life. Link to post Share on other sites
Author amerikajin Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Okay, okay...yes, I'm being a tad melodramatic. Well, maybe. It would be different if I lived in a city like New York or some place like that where you have a different mix of people and lots of people are in a transition like myself. But here?!?!?! Dudes get morning wood just to get out their rifles to go kill Bambi on a Saturday morning - no shyte. And those loveable ladies...well, let's just say a lot of them would find themselves right at home on the Jerry Springer show. But back on topic here, I think B4R understands my situation. Maybe it sounds like I'm saying "Poor me" - well, I'm not. I'm just saying that it does give a negative impression and while I totally understand that on one level, on another level, I'm wondering what's the big deal about living at home and going to school. I mean I've heard it said and read it before that women have major issues with guys who live at home when they're older under almost any circumstances. I mean, sure, I could see if the guy was just unambitious and showed no signs of wanting to move out anytime soon, but it's an almost automatic assumption that my situation is a dating dead-end. And yet, I tend to think it wouldn't be true in the reverse; if a woman checked out otherwise her living at home wouldn't be an issue for most guys. I mean, yeah, we'd be figuring out how to bring her over to our pads and get her to stay over for a night cap without getting an interrogation from her old man, but there wouldn't be an automatic presumption that she's not going anywhere in life. I guess what it gets down to is, in our culture, being masculine means being alone, or being capable of being alone. I guess living at home just ain't what men do. I don't think B4R was taking a shot at dudes who earn 40k and have a pick-up truck. You may not be making the bank but you're hangin in there at 40k, I guess. I guess for some women that might be a problem cause it would mean that if they wanted children and a nice lifestyle she'd have to get off her @zz and bring in a healthy income of her own. I think he was just wondering why women automatically assume that he's more dateworthy than a guy who's temporarily not bringing in much income to go back to school, or just because he's living at home for the time being. well, you hear that boys and girls? I believe that's the sound of a violin playing! Poor Amerikajin! Poor Amerikajin! Waaaaaahh! Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Amerikajin, are you anywhere near a bigger city so you can get out of that town from time to time? It sounds like feeling stuck there is half your problem. You don't want to date the Jerry Springer chicks anyway, right? And then if you do meet someone elsewhere, maybe you could spin your situation. Like, "I moved in with my parents short term to help them with blah, blah (sick parent, sick dog, renovations, etc.) But at the end of summer I am going to...(insert big impressive goal here.)" B4R, From everything you've said, Gigi's opinions were not too sound. I promise you there are lots of women who would find a librarian hot. You just haven't met the right one. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 No, what I meant was that a guy who owns a tow truck and makes 40 K, but probably has no more than a high school education has a lot easier time of it getting with women than I do. Trust me I see it. Most women would rather be with a blue collar guy who makes a relatively decent income than with a guy furthering his post-grad education, but is relatively broke. When I said 'you're still a loser' I mean that no matter the reasons-if you are a man over 30 with your parents- you are considered a loser. Period. Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 No, what I meant was that a guy who owns a tow truck and makes 40 K, but probably has no more than a high school education has a lot easier time of it getting with women than I do. Trust me I see it. Most women would rather be with a blue collar guy who makes a relatively decent income than with a guy furthering his post-grad education, but is relatively broke. When I said 'you're still a loser' I mean that no matter the reasons-if you are a man over 30 with your parents- you are considered a loser. Period. Well, if you insist on painting with broad strokes, OK. If all I had to go on was that one guy lived with his parents and one guy didn't, I would choose the later. But that is just at the stage when you're looking at someone's profile on a website. The profile on the website *is* like a resume or cover letter. You don't want to lie, but what you do want is to get in the door and meet the person face to face. So it is OK to play up your assets and play down your...foibles. After people get to know each other, I don't think they are as judgemental. Some women date prisoners for heaven sakes! Lastly, most people date at roughly the same educational and "class" (used loosely in the US) level. So a woman with at least a BA and maybe working on her MA is not going to find much to say to a towtruck driver. Link to post Share on other sites
NineGirl Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 You can't really blame us girls for that If i meet a male thats still living at home with his mom and has no job.. and i reject him because of that.. that has nothing to do with me being a gold-digger. It just shows that You need to work on something! If a male or female is at the age in which they should be moving out and should have some decent/steady job; that is something I also would be looking at... Men also look at how much a womens income is too! We aren't the only ones. This is a very obvious and kind of offensive expiriment. I don't think you should blame a woman for appreciating a man that has a job and place to live as opposed to someone that is unemployed and lving at home.. Come on Now Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 By the way the OP isnt in grad school yet he's just planning on going after the summer. Look u may or may not get more action over the net with ur new profile that doesnt mean all women or the girls ud like to meet want a guy just because of making lots of money. Nothings wrong with living at home but if u want to be attractive to the oposite sex u need ambition and the drive to be attemtping ur goals in life. Yeah. Listen to the ex-Horniest Man Alive. Link to post Share on other sites
allflowerz Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 It's war out there!! Do whatever you have to do to win!!! Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 It's war out there!! Do whatever you have to do to win!!! Love is War... hmmmmmmm Link to post Share on other sites
magichands Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Love is War... hmmmmmmm http://www.eltonography.com/songs/act_of_war.html Link to post Share on other sites
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