Poll: If someone offered you $3 million, but the catch is you have to kill your dog,

February 3, 2007

it aslo reminds me of that episode of the sopranos where tony beheads a man because of the death of a horse.

A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse.

February 3, 2007

it aslo reminds me of that episode of the sopranos where tony beheads a man because of the death of a horse.

Can you imagine if the PETA wackos had been around during the time they used to use animals to plow the fields?

By the way, Manson and Squeaky Fromme and the person who tried to murder President Ford were all vegan or vegetarians as well.

It's sad. Those people have all been brainwashed by the Nazi like tactics of organizations like PETA.

February 3, 2007

its well documented that hitler was a vegetarian and an animal lover

That's a myth. It's well documented that Hitler was on a vegetarian diet because of health problems. He ate meat on occasion.

February 3, 2007

Every time he saw meatballs, it reminded him of his missing testicle.

February 3, 2007

That's a myth. It's well documented that Hitler was on a vegetarian diet because of health problems. He ate meat on occasion.

its well documented that he loved animals and brusselsprouts almost as much as he hated slavs and jews

February 3, 2007

brusselsprouts

Now... if your testicle looked like that, then you really would be in trouble.

February 3, 2007

"As we know, when it needs food, our body indicates this to us with the feeling of hunger. But there are also other signals if specific nutrients are deficient. Meat is the best source of several nutrients. When our bodies are deficient in these, we become irritable and aggressive. This is a perfectly natural signal built into our genetic make-up over our evolution: our bodies are telling us to go out and kill something to eat. This is why strict vegetarians tend to be so vociferous. It is a trait that was recognised long ago; it was, after all, the vegetarian Cain who killed the carnivorous Abel, not the other way round. The vegan Kikuyu tribe in Kenya were the perpetrators of the murderous Mau Mau in the 1950s, not their wholly carnivorous, but peaceful, neighbours, the Maasai.

When man made the transition from a hunter-gatherer to an agrarian who farmed the land, not only did he need to begin building fences, but this necessitated the conquest of more land and in place of slaughtering animals, he began slaughtering his fellow humans."

Yeah, they're such a peace-loving group...NOT!

By the way, the quoted passages above are from vegetariansareevil dot com.

February 3, 2007

its well documented that he loved animals and brusselsprouts almost as much as he hated slavs and jews

It's well documented that:

Every time he saw meatballs, it reminded him of his missing testicle.

(I was going to try to come up with something clever to finish with, but then I realized that no matter what, I could never top magichands.)

February 3, 2007

There is a guy pretty high up in PETA who has compared the killing of chickens for food to the killing of Jews in the Holocaust. If that comparison sounds reasonable to any of you, I am worried.

Someone asked groups of high school students if their dog and a stranger (human) were drowning, which one would they save, and many chose the dog.

I guess if you think of a human being as just another animal it follows that it would be a hard choice between the two. However, I would not kill my dog or any human, unless to defend my life or a loved one's life. On the other hand, I think eating certain animals for food is fine.

It is important to make distinctions in order to think clearly. There is an obvious difference between a pet and livestock.

February 3, 2007

By the way, the quoted passages above are from vegetariansareevil dot com.

A truly reputable source!

Come on. You can't be for real posting that. Did you hack Touche's account or something? Touche would know better than to bother posting such a faulty, obviously biased quote.

February 3, 2007

Many vegans and vegetarians try to deny the fact that Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian, simply because they wish he wasn't.

Adolph Hitler became a vegetarian in 1932 upon the death of Geli Raubal. In 1928 Hitler asked his half-sister, Angela Raubal, to be his housekeeper. She agreed and arrived with her twenty-year old daughter, Geli Raubal. Hitler, who had now turned forty, became infatuated with Geli and rumours soon spread that he was having an affair with his young niece. Hitler became extremely possessive and Emil Maurice, his chauffeur, who also showed interest in Geli, was sacked.

The couple lived together for over two years. The relationship with Geli was stormy and they began to accuse each other of being unfaithful. Geli was particularly concerned about Eva Braun, a seventeen-year-old girl who Hitler took for rides in his Mercedes car.

Geli also complained about the way Hitler controlled her life On September 8, 1931, Hitler left for Hamburg after having a blazing row with Geli over her desire to spend some time in Vienna. Hitler was heard to shout at Geli as he was about to get into his car: "For the last time, no!" After he left Geli shot herself through the heart with a revolver.

When he heard the news Hitler threatened to take his own life but was talked out of it by senior members of the Nazi Party. One consequence of Geli's suicide was that Hitler became a vegetarian. He claimed that meat now reminded him of Geli's corpse.

Excerpt from "Germany's Hitler" by Heinz Heinz:

Adolph Hitler was passionately fond of animals. One off the Party friends had the lucky idea of us giving him a dog for his birthday in 1920. He rather thought a Deutscher Schaeferhund would be the thing and we bought one remarkable for size rather than for breed .... Hitler was awfully pleased with it. But the dog was ill ..... and died.

So early next year somebody else sent him a young Wolfshund. Hitler fell in love with him, and they became inseparable companions. When, later on, he got more dogs, (they are still living at his country place), this one remained his prime favorite. He kept him ten years or more and then some enemy managed to poison him - some Communist belike. He must have known that to kill Hitler's dog would hit him harder than any political revenge ....

During the war a little dog deserted from the English lines and came over to us. Hitler adopted him and called him 'Fox'.

Vegans and vegetarians are now in a panic to produce articles denying that Hitler was ever a vegetarian, simply because they don't want him to be one. All of the people saying he was not a vegetarian are vegetarians and none of them are historians. None of them actually know for sure, but they feel that if they shout it loudly enough, people will have to believe them. Vegans are always an angry lot and are accustomed to having people back down from arguments with them.

The European Socialist left is has been reasonably successful with a similar disinformation campaign, using their heavy influence in the press and on university campuses to convince many that Hitler was somehow a "right-winger".

What they neglect to say is that Hitler was a Socialist - like most of the European governments that succeeded him. The NAZI party is an acronym for National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) - Socialists clearly belong to the left along with vegan animal rights activists and militants.

Passage quoted from previously referenced site. Fascinating. It just further confirms what I've always thought.

February 3, 2007

Last month, the United Nations published a report on livestock and the environment with a stunning conclusion: "The livestock sector emerges as one of the top two or three most significant contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global." It turns out that raising animals for food is a primary cause of land degradation, air pollution, water shortage, water pollution, loss of biodiversity, and not least of all, global warming.

http://tinyurl.com/2lwsl8

February 3, 2007

A truly reputable source!

Come on. You can't be for real posting that. Did you hack Touche's account or something? Touche would know better than to bother posting such a faulty, obviously biased quote.

I knew you were going to question the source but hey, why not try to refute what they're saying. I agree with it all. It's what I've been saying all along.

Of course I didn't know all that stuff about Hitler though. That was really interesting and it appears that B4 was right.

So where is the article faulty? And yeah, sure it's biased but that doesn't make it factually incorrect now does it?

February 3, 2007

Someone asked groups of high school students if their dog and a stranger (human) were drowning, which one would they save, and many chose the dog.

Those are statements made by kids who feel oppressed by adults and out of place, like teenagers all do. Kids often don't like people much. But everyone likes a fluffy friendly puppy. In other words they are just speaking from convenient surface emotions. They have no idea what they'd do if they were actually in a position to have to make the hypothetical choice. I think they'd do the right thing, regardless of what they claim.

February 3, 2007

Also, Hitler was a non-smoker who had lots of anti-smoking campaigns. See how horrible those non-smokers are. They'll gas somebody but they won't let them smoke. :rolleyes:

Can you please stop being ridiculous?

So where is the article faulty? And yeah, sure it's biased but that doesn't make it factually incorrect now does it?

It doesn't necessarily mean that they are, but it gives reason to question the validity. I can go to some extreme animal activist sites and give you lots of "factually correct" quotes to refute everything on that site. The fact that you don't realize that but have a history of questioning people's sources makes me wonder is this is someone else posing as Touche.

When man made the transition from a hunter-gatherer to an agrarian who farmed the land, not only did he need to begin building fences, but this necessitated the conquest of more land and in place of slaughtering animals, he began slaughtering his fellow humans."

That claim is absurd. I'm sure no one every killed anyone before agricultural development, right? It's funny that when I've when I've read about the development of civilians, that not once have I seen any anthropologist ever suggest anything like that.

I guess since agriculture results in murder, we should all stop farming.

Seriously, is all this? You can't be for real.

February 3, 2007

I believe asking such questions is meaningless. A girl once tried to rescue her puppy when it fell through ice. She was then in difficulty, and a person tried to help her... they all drowned.

Clearly the best outcome (in hindsight) would be for everyone to not give a sh*t. Some lesson that teaches us.

February 3, 2007

Those are statements made by kids who feel oppressed by adults and out of place, like teenagers all do. Kids often don't like people much. But everyone likes a fluffy friendly puppy. In other words they are just speaking from convenient surface emotions. They have no idea what they'd do if they were actually in a position to have to make the hypothetical choice. I think they'd do the right thing, regardless of what they claim.

You're assuming that they know what the "right" thing is. I kind of have some doubts about that.

February 3, 2007

Hiter did eat some meat, and was a vegetarian for health reasons.. Crazy_gurl was right..

In the book Heretic's Feast, Colin Spencer gives credence to the myth that Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian. He makes reference to Hitler's supposed vegetarianism no fewer than four times, devoting a lengthy five-page section to it in chapter 12.

While it is true that Hitler's doctors put him on a vegetarian diet to cure him of flatulence and a chronic stomach disorder, his biographers such as Albert Speer, Robert Payne, John Toland, and others, have attested to his liking for ham sausages and other cured meats.

Even Spencer says that Hitler was a vegetarian from only 1931 on: "It would be true to say that up to 1931, he preferred a vegetarian diet, but on some occasions would deviate from it." He committed suicide in the bunker when he was 56 in 1945; that would have given him 14 years as a vegetarian, but we have the testimony to the contrary of the woman chef who was his personal cook in Hamburg during the late 1930s – Dione Lucas. In her "Gourmet Cooking School Cookbook," she records that his favorite dish – the one that he customarily requested - was stuffed squab (pigeon).

"I do not mean to spoil your appetite for stuffed squab, but you might be interested to know that it was a great favorite with Mr. Hitler, who dined in the hotel often."

– From a review by Rynn Berry that appeared in the Summer 1995 issue of Vegetarian Voice.

New York Times posts a correction – Hitler “did eat at least some meat.”

The March 15, 2005 New York Times "Corrections" box included the following important item on page two:

"A film review about 'Downfall,' which looks at Hitler's final days, referred incorrectly to his diet. Although the movie portrays him as vegetarian, he did eat at least some meat.”

http://www.veg.ca/living/p-hitler.html

February 3, 2007

Damn. I don't have a dog . I prolly would not be willing to kill the dog for money . But my cat , today , if someone offered me $500. to kill her. I think I minght take it . She hates me , she wants my H all to herself the ***** . She was so pissed that we had sex that she pissed in my bed on the spot where we did it . I hate her , I wonder if I could just make her dissapear?

HAHA! OMG, that cat sounds sooo evil!! That reminds me of my aunt's old Siamese (SP??) cat. She could sense that my mom and I didn't like her and one night when we were spending the night at my aunts, she took a ***** on our bed!! To this day I HATE Siamese cats.

But could I kill her (or any other animal for that matter?) HELL NO.

February 3, 2007

Seriously, is all this? You can't be for real.

oops. can't go back to edit. I meant "what is all this?"

February 3, 2007