Poll: If someone offered you $3 million, but the catch is you have to kill your dog,

[Pyro]

Geez, I am gone for the night and this thread has gone crazy.

 

I like to eat my fair share of meat and veggies, but I still would never kill an innocent animal for any amount of money.

[Touche]

wow touche. this is a new low. you're actually claiming the moral highground on this issue at the same time as admitting you'd kill people you didn't like? fascinating.

 

i value human life much more highly than i value animal life. that's part of the reason i'm a vegan, because it's of clear benefit to other humans as well as to animals and the planet. doh!

 

I didn't exactly say I'd kill someone I didn't "like." I said I'd be capable of killing someone who harmed children or someone who killed other people.

 

I claim NO moral high ground. Where exactly are you getting THAT from? I simply stated my opinion. Am I not entitled to that? You're certainly entitled to yours. YOU'RE the one claiming the moral high ground here. It's debatable whether your being a vegan is a "clear" benefit to other humans.

[Touche]

Geez, I am gone for the night and this thread has gone crazy.

 

I like to eat my fair share of meat and veggies, but I still would never kill an innocent animal for any amount of money.

 

Yes, but you pay others to kill an innocent animal every time you eat meat.

[Pyro]

Yes, but you pay others to kill an innocent animal every time you eat meat.

 

Oh boy.

 

Its not me doing it. The point of this whole thread was suppose to be what each of us would do if we were offered cash to kill an animal. Yes, I eat meat. It tastes good and it gives me energy, but I would never kill the animal myself.

[tinktronik]

Oh boy.

 

Its not me doing it. The point of this whole thread was suppose to be what each of us would do if we were offered cash to kill an animal. Yes, I eat meat. It tastes good and it gives me energy, but I would never kill the animal myself.

See I think thats worse than killing the animal for food itself . You want the privlage of being a meat eater without the reality of it being a living being.

[Touche]

Oh boy.

 

Its not me doing it. The point of this whole thread was suppose to be what each of us would do if we were offered cash to kill an animal. Yes, I eat meat. It tastes good and it gives me energy, but I would never kill the animal myself.

 

I know you'd never kill it yourself. You pay others to do it for you.

 

Hey, I'm just telling you how those people think. I don't have a problem with it obviously. But you do sound a tad hypocritical to me when you say you wouldn't kill an "innocent" animal yourself but you have no problem having others do it.

 

Look at it this way. When someone hires a hit man to knock off someone they are found to legally be just as responsible as the person who kills someone with their own bare hands. See what I'm saying? There's no real difference.

 

So I don't get why you'd turn down the money and not kill a dog. You pay others to kill innocent animals for you just because you like the way they taste so why not kill an animal to secure your future?

[CardPlay3r]

Touche, touche and LOL at your avatar. Different when it's your own pet though, or someone else's. Plus dogs are highly attached to humans, makes it more difficult

[magichands]

See I think thats worse than killing the animal for food itself . You want the privlage of being a meat eater without the reality of it being a living being.

Well, a fair-enough point, but consider this. Just by living in this country, and having far more than we need to survive (even comfortably), we are condemning many people on the other side of this planet to death. Simple as that. We are effectively misappropriating the earth's "resources."

 

Does anybody feel guilty about that? No, of course not. We should all feel quite privileged to have nothing much to worry about.

 

The end doesn't justify the means. Killing is bad, whichever way you want to "package" it. If you are going to eat the dog because you are starving to death, then that is a very different situation. Killing for the US Treasury is the act of a mercenary.

[tinktronik]

Well, a fair-enough point, but consider this. Just by living in this country, and having far more than we need to survive (even comfortably), we are condemning many people on the other side of this planet to death. Simple as that. We are effectively misappropriating the earth's "resources."

 

Does anybody feel guilty about that? No, of course not. We should all feel quite privileged to have nothing much to worry about.

 

The end doesn't justify the means. Killing is bad, whichever way you want to "package" it. If you are going to eat the dog because you are starving to death, then that is a very different situation. Killing for the US Treasury is the act of a mercenary.

How is being a mercenary any different (worse) than living in this country knowingly missappropriating resources and as fallout another part of the worlds popoulation lives as a third world? One is an act of doing the other is simply ignoring . Its only better or worse if you look at your own values and place some sort of personal score card to them.

[magichands]

How is being a mercenary any different (worse) than living in this country knowingly missappropriating resources and as fallout another part of the worlds popoulation lives as a third world?

You're right, they are exactly the same. Except that not killing the dog gives 3 million to the starving children (instead of just you, and your iPod-guzzling dependents). So the people that don't kill are kind-of, sort-of saints, really.

[burning 4 revenge]

You're right, they are exactly the same. Except that not killing the dog gives 3 million to the starving children (instead of just you, and your iPod-guzzling dependents). So the people that don't kill are kind-of, sort-of saints, really.

......what?

[Storyrider]

 

So I don't get why you'd turn down the money and not kill a dog. You pay others to kill innocent animals for you just because you like the way they taste so why not kill an animal to secure your future?

 

Like Riddler, I'm also willing to eat meat but not to kill my own dog. Here are my reasons--

 

--By taking ownership of my dog, I have agreed to do my best to keep him healthy and happy.

--As a pet, my dog has the benefit of taking on certain human ways of life and attributes. This adds to, and changes the kind of life he should have.

--He is my friend.

--BTW, we do "kill" our dogs under certain circumstances to alleviate suffering. We don't do that to humans, at least not in the US.

--I eat pork, but if I had a pet pig, I certainly would not eat him.

 

All of the above is what the word "pet" means. It means an animal that is elevated above typical animal status to have a personal relationship with a human.

 

Does anyone remember the movie Babe? Or Charlotte's Web? I know these are fictional childrens' stories, but they get the concept across perfectly clearly to a five year old. Surely adults can understand it.

[tinktronik]

You're right, they are exactly the same. Except that not killing the dog gives 3 million to the starving children (instead of just you, and your iPod-guzzling dependents). So the people that don't kill are kind-of, sort-of saints, really.

Yeah , but I think the whole point was that its one thing to say you would not kill but another if the offer was real. And how do you figure that if you don't kill your own dog, that children on the other side of the world will recieve 3M???

[magichands]

All of the above is what the word "pet" means. It means an animal that is elevated above typical animal status to have a personal relationship with a human.

Excellent point.

[burning 4 revenge]

Yeah, but for three million dollars? Admit that you would hate your dog with venom and would want to beat it everytime you looked at it if you considered that you could have had total financial independence by shorting it a couple of years.

[magichands]

Yeah, but for three million dollars? Admit that you would hate your dog with venom and would want to beat it everytime you looked at it if you considered that you could have had total financial independence by shorting it a couple of years.

Some people wouldn't do anything for money. Face it. You know I'm right.

[Storyrider]

Yeah, but for three million dollars? Admit that you would hate your dog with venom and would want to beat it everytime you looked at it if you considered that you could have had total financial independence by shorting it a couple of years.

 

I think that is what Scott Peterson was feeling when he threw Laci in the water.

[burning 4 revenge]

I think that is what Scott Peterson was feeling when he threw Laci in the water.

yes, probably so

[Touche]

I think that is what Scott Peterson was feeling when he threw Laci in the water.

 

Bad analogy, Story. We're talking about a human life vs. an animal's.

 

As far as this:

 

Some people wouldn't do anything for money. Face it. You know I'm right.

 

I wouldn't do "anything" for money. I've already said what I wouldn't do..(remember the whole fetus killing thing?) In fact, there are MANY things I wouldn't do for money. I wouldn't sleep with someone for money. But yeah, I'd kill my pet. I'm so very selfish...I'm a bad, bad woman!

 

Magic, stop taking the other side of the world's resources and MOVE.

 

So many hypocrites on this thread.

[Storyrider]

Bad analogy, Story. We're talking about a human life vs. an animal's.

 

I agree it isn't analogous. I just meant having that feeling of constricted freedom and lost opportunity does not justify bad action.

[magichands]

I wouldn't do "anything" for money.

You've already admitted to it. You said anything. Anything for your family. Anything.

 

You said anything. Anything for money for your family. Anything.

 

You said anything.

 

And you know I'm right.

[magichands]

I agree it isn't analogous. I just meant having that feeling of constricted freedom and lost opportunity does not justify bad action.

Exactly!

 

There are other routes to financial independence. How about taking the moral high road for a change?!

 

There are many, many, many ways to get rich dishonourably. Apparently none of these bother Touche. She would so anything for money.

 

Anything.

[tinktronik]

Exactly!

 

There are other routes to financial independence. How about taking the moral high road for a change?!

 

There are many, many, many ways to get rich dishonourably. Apparently none of these bother Touche. She would so anything for money.

 

Anything.

Come on guys . She may have said anything but she also listed things she would not do .

Oh and whos "moral high road " should we all be taking?

[Pyro]

See I think thats worse than killing the animal for food itself . You want the privlage of being a meat eater without the reality of it being a living being.

 

I see your point here, but sticking to the original thread topic, I would never kill an innocent dog.

 

Any of you can refer to me as a hypocrite, but I do beg to differ.

[tinktronik]

I see your point here, but sticking to the original thread topic, I would never kill an innocent dog.

 

Any of you can refer to me as a hypocrite, but I do beg to differ.

I never refered to anyone as a hypocrite , so don't get your panties all knotted up.

What if it was a viscious dog though?