pricillia Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I think the point was that a man can stay a bachelor and still have everything....including a family & kids. Because he is still infact a bachelor, if he is not married, kids or no kids He is just a Bachelor with kids and a multiple of partners... Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 He is just a Bachelor with kids and a multiple of partners... Well that beats a married man with kids and only one partner. Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Well that beats a married man with kids and only one partner. but truly a man who is in a committed relationship with a woman is no longer a bachelor Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 but truly a man who is in a committed relationship with a woman is no longer a bachelor bachelor = not married Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 bachelor = not married A bachelor is a unmarried man in a non committed relationship... Link to post Share on other sites
luvtoto Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 He is just a Bachelor with kids and a multiple of partners... Try dating when you have kids. Near impossible. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I've learned there are certain things to pay attention to before you even think of getting married. (1) if there are skidmarked underwear in the hamper (or worse the floor). Run! Run away NOW! Why would you subject yourself for the next 50 or 60 yrs with someone who hasn't learned to wipe their own ass yet. (2) Kissing. If they open their mouth sooooooo wide, slam their tongue down your throat like they a drilling for oil and all you are kissing is their teeth. GET OUT! You will probably be subjected to jackrabbit sex if you take it further. Now you are stuck with someone who has no idea how to make love properly. That's another thing, if they don't want to listen what you like get out. There are plenty of men out there who know how to make love to a woman. That is another thing guys. Don't pinch our nipples or squeeze our breasts like you are popping a zit. You wouldn't like it if we put your testicles in a vice would you? If you don't know how to treat a woman's entire body ask. We know when you are young you get all your info from movies, magazines and gulp your friends in the locker room who are lying their ass off. Please don't expect us to act like the girls in the porno flicks. Maybe we would if we were with those guys. We don't watch porn for one main reason. While you are looking at the girl with the implants we are staring at the guy who doesn't require enlargment help and then we remember your underwear in the hamper it to be honest its a turn off. So we don't watch porn to make you feel better. Last thing: we will tell you if we like what you are doing. If you have to keep asking you are doing it wrong. This was all tongue in cheek. Kinda. Link to post Share on other sites
Mary3 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Nowadays.....marriage really doesn't make sense to me. I did it once. It was nice while it lasted. I've had one other long term relationship and I have a child from each relationship. 1 I raise on my own and the other I raise jointly but separately with her mother. She moved out 7-8 months ago and life has been soooo much better since then. I can make my own decisions about money, groceries, my kids, what I do with my spare time and WHEN. I can get up in the middle of the night without having to explain to someone what I'm doing or why. I go to sleep every night and wake up everyday knowing that I am the master of my destiny. I have to compromise at work an in my public life...but at home...no compromises. It's my way or the highway as they say. Do I expect any woman to want someone like me? No...not really. I'm probably the least fit for a lifetime partner right now. Would I change my mind? Maybe...if the right woman came along. But even so....I would likely just live with her instead of marrying her. In the meantime I can date for fun, hang out with friends and live life to the fullest.....argument free. Beautifully Spoken You have just described * my * life Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Beautifully Spoken You have just described * my * life excellent M3 Link to post Share on other sites
Mary3 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 excellent M3 Hows life treating you alpha ? Link to post Share on other sites
americat Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I've learned there are certain things to pay attention to before you even think of getting married. (1) if there are skidmarked underwear in the hamper (or worse the floor). Run! Run away NOW! Why would you subject yourself for the next 50 or 60 yrs with someone who hasn't learned to wipe their own ass yet. (2) Kissing. If they open their mouth sooooooo wide, slam their tongue down your throat like they a drilling for oil and all you are kissing is their teeth. GET OUT! You will probably be subjected to jackrabbit sex if you take it further. Now you are stuck with someone who has no idea how to make love properly. That's another thing, if they don't want to listen what you like get out. There are plenty of men out there who know how to make love to a woman. That is another thing guys. Don't pinch our nipples or squeeze our breasts like you are popping a zit. You wouldn't like it if we put your testicles in a vice would you? If you don't know how to treat a woman's entire body ask. We know when you are young you get all your info from movies, magazines and gulp your friends in the locker room who are lying their ass off. Please don't expect us to act like the girls in the porno flicks. Maybe we would if we were with those guys. We don't watch porn for one main reason. While you are looking at the girl with the implants we are staring at the guy who doesn't require enlargment help and then we remember your underwear in the hamper it to be honest its a turn off. So we don't watch porn to make you feel better. Last thing: we will tell you if we like what you are doing. If you have to keep asking you are doing it wrong. This was all tongue in cheek. Kinda. Jesus Christ, has someone watched way too many episodes of sex and the city? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 ok i guess. i woke up for some reason and couldn't get back to sleep. so i have my laptop in bed with me and am on LS. my laptop and I spend a lot of time in bed. maybe i'll drill a hole in it and make it my girlfriend Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Jesus Christ, has someone watched way too many episodes of sex and the city? no doubt!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Mary3 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 ok i guess. i woke up for some reason and couldn't get back to sleep. so i have my laptop in bed with me and am on LS. my laptop and I spend a lot of time in bed. maybe i'll drill a hole in it and make it my girlfriend The idea of you laying in bed just * does something * for me Link to post Share on other sites
americat Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 of course TOPPER. Almost always a woman will divorce a husband who loses his money/power/status....assuming she's still young and attractive enough to snag another rich husband. What if he had none to begin with and you stick with? Link to post Share on other sites
americat Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 And now for (drum-roll, please) Post No. #300 on the subject I see so many young men end up like this guy (again from the nomarriage.com) I'm with a4a, the reasons that so many marriages fail is that too many people are un-educated, ignorant, too immature, too self-centered, too selfish, all primarly because they're too young when they get married. Like the MTV show, "Underage, and engaged" There's no freaking way that some sixteen or seventeen years old should be getting married. A couple of years past, they try to do too much, too soon, acquire too much~ too soon, acquire too much debt and easy credit, then there's too much water of bitterness and resentment under thr bridge, and they're wondering why they're divorcing down the pike. IMHO, before anyone can get married they should be required to attend mandatory pre-martial couseling and classes as well as classes in personal finance. Too many young girls and boys who think they're women and men ~ have too many un-realistic expectations as to what marriage is all about. They've not got a clue. I'm sorry but not many marriages have much success even if they are still together. Divorce rates does not signify the level of happiness in other undivorced relationships- likely there is not much there either. Finally people are selfish enough to want more for themselves whether it's leaving a cheating or abusing spouse, wanting their needs met etc. People stuck it out in the past for ridiculous reasons- to save face mostly. Strict religious values played another part I'm sure. I don't think age has everything to do with it since some people still have their same fairytale beliefs later on in life when it's their first marriage. Your post is actually quite contradictory since when marriages DID survive, it was decades ago with mostly couples who married young. And to you that youth also indicates ignorance and a myriad of other problems. People marry older today than they have EVER in the past and divorce is ALSO the highest ever. Sorry, but youth is not the reason for divorce stats being what they are.. lol. Stop basing all your opinions upon watching an mtv program which portrayes slivers of UNCONVENTIONAL situations that are of the minority- that's the reason you watch! I would suggest learning all the facts about the stats before you talk about them. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Sorry, but youth is not the reason for divorce stats being what they are.. lol. . well AMERIKAT....in the past people married out of survival and for very objective reasons. People did not marry for "love" in the past. They married because it was the only way they could continue their existence. That was a big motivation to also stay married. Now a days marriage has become superfluous and is not needed to stay alive. Link to post Share on other sites
americat Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 well AMERIKAT....in the past people married out of survival and for very objective reasons. People did not marry for "love" in the past. They married because it was the only way they could continue their existence. That was a big motivation to also stay married. Now a days marriage has become superfluous and is not needed to stay alive. That doesn't mean they were happy while married.. probably quite the contrary. Probably in a mechanical mode that Americans would not accept today because today people generally have the notion that they want a HAPPY life and DESERVE it. Just because there are many divorces.. well I don't see it as a bad thing necessarily.. I guess it's the way you CHOOSE to look at it. The selfishness is not so pretty but this is how you have RAISED your children (not speaking to you personally but society in general).. education and personal goals coming first forsaking all others. So on one hand you have raised your children in that you want the BEST for them and did the most possible to achieve that desired result and on the other you expect them to stay in a crappy marriage? Yeah right! Women are much more financially independent now than 15 years ago even. I don't think that is a bad thing unless you want your daughter hooked to an abusive husband later down the road and dependent on him. There are reasons why many marriages DON'T divorce and many of them are just as bad as those who are divorcing. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 That doesn't mean they were happy while married.. probably quite the contrary. Probably in a mechanical mode that Americans would not accept today because today people generally have the notion that they want a HAPPY life and DESERVE it. well AMERICAT...let me posit that happiness, like everything else in life, is relative. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 This culture which is self centered, shallow and superficial is not nurturing towards relationships surviving. Marriage only works if you find somebody who has the same view on it that you do which is very hard to find. Most people are out for themselves and marriage requires thinking of more than just yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
americat Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 well AMERICAT...let me posit that happiness, like everything else in life, is relative. Sure, but the need and desire for such have changed over the course of several decades overcoming even societal constrictions and religious obligations changing our divorce stats. But then again I tend to believe mostly that selfishness and the ability to achieve "happiness" in one form or other sometimes go hand in hand. The way we live today is much better than years ago but nobody can see it because they are used to getting everything they want, taking everything we have for granted and expecting to be happy. We live in the most spoiled culture on the planet and we still have the nerve to whine and complain about everything. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 This culture which is self centered, shallow and superficial is not nurturing towards relationships surviving. Marriage only works if you find somebody who has the same view on it that you do which is very hard to find. Most people are out for themselves and marriage requires thinking of more than just yourself. basically what it comes down to is that a strong, long lasting marriage is not good for the economy...and not good for capitalism and consumerism in general. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 basically what it comes down to is that a strong, long lasting marriage is not good for the economy...and not good for capitalism and consumerism in general. That is actually not true. Immigrants are taking over this nation(I don't feel this is a bad thing) and they have strong family values. My doctor is indian and my businessmen I deal with in my job are asian and indian and they are all strong and family oriented people. Right now America has become deindustrialized and is very much a service based economy. Our economy is on very shaky ground and poverty is at it's hoghest level since the 70s. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 That is actually not true.. what you mean its not true. Do you know how many jobs have been created just due to the high divorce rate?? Lawyers, court workers, psychologists, child care workers...the list is endless. Not to mention increased use of gasoline cause now the kids have to be trucked between two households instead of one. Then at Xmas and b-days the kids each get two gifts, one from each divorced parent. Instead of getting just one gift from the married parent. It affects all parts of the economy. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 what you mean its not true. Do you know how many jobs have been created just due to the high divorce rate?? Lawyers, court workers, psychologists, child care workers...the list is endless. Not to mention increased use of gasoline cause now the kids have to be trucked between two households instead of one. I guess this is somewhat true but that is not a sign of a strong and healthy economy and not the sign of a strong and healthy society. America right now is at one of it's weakest points ever. Link to post Share on other sites
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