pricillia Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 To be honest, i am not mad about change either. But nothing lasts forever, including bad times. And you never know whats just around the corner. True you never know, things can happen without warning... Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Satan inhibits; Satan is a major deterrent of any hearing and coming to the Lord. Satan dwells between Jesus and man... to stop the word of God and to stop any from... that might hear and consider Jesus. Satan works hard against God my frineds...to keep others away from.. Satan strives to kill the word of God. Dont let Satan steal your heart from Jesus. *Remember one that desires to find Christ "can find Him.".. "through their own heart"…(to be in a Church is not necessary). Salvation in the Lord is a step of the heart, a willingness to invite the Lord in. “If you desire Jesus; call Him earnestly into your heart and ask Him to forgive you of your sins, call Him to be your Savior…. Any that do this will be saved… Praise Jesus.” You have everything to gain by calling on Jesus to be your Lord and Savor and nothing to loose. Trust in God He loves you and wants you to love Him its that simple. The step into Jesus Salvation takes but a moment and lasts for all eternity. God Bless* Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Satan inhibits; Satan is a major deterrent of any hearing and coming to the Lord. Satan dwells between Jesus and man... to stop the word of God and to stop any from... that might hear and consider Jesus. Satan works hard against God my frineds...to keep others away from.. Satan strives to kill the word of God. Dont let Satan steal your heart from Jesus. *Remember one that desires to find Christ "can find Him.".. "through their own heart"…(to be in a Church is not necessary). Salvation in the Lord is a step of the heart, a willingness to invite the Lord in. “If you desire Jesus; call Him earnestly into your heart and ask Him to forgive you of your sins, call Him to be your Savior…. Any that do this will be saved… Praise Jesus.” You have everything to gain by calling on Jesus to be your Lord and Savor and nothing to loose. Trust in God He loves you and wants you to love Him its that simple. The step into Jesus Salvation takes but a moment and lasts for all eternity. God Bless* You can love god and believe in other forms of religion and sprituality I hope you find peace and acceptance that everyone does not think like you. Satan dwell between jesus and man???????????????????? This sounds a little koo koo, but ok I will not judge just sayin Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Satan inhibits; Satan is a major deterrent of any hearing and coming to the Lord. Satan dwells between Jesus and man... to stop the word of God and to stop any from... that might hear and consider Jesus. Satan works hard against God my frineds...to keep others away from.. Satan strives to kill the word of God. Dont let Satan steal your heart from Jesus. *Remember one that desires to find Christ "can find Him.".. "through their own heart"…(to be in a Church is not necessary). Salvation in the Lord is a step of the heart, a willingness to invite the Lord in. “If you desire Jesus; call Him earnestly into your heart and ask Him to forgive you of your sins, call Him to be your Savior…. Any that do this will be saved… Praise Jesus.” You have everything to gain by calling on Jesus to be your Lord and Savor and nothing to loose. Trust in God He loves you and wants you to love Him its that simple. The step into Jesus Salvation takes but a moment and lasts for all eternity. God Bless* Here we go.... Lovehurts, try maybe READING the other peoples posts before you put all your preaching down? But at least you proved my point, that the believers tend to be less tolerant and more narrow minded than those who have a broader view. We are real people with real feelings you know... and right now we are alot more real than Jesus. Does he have a phone number or an email address that i can contact him on? No. But Pricillia does, and I like talking to her for now. Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Here we go.... Lovehurts, try maybe READING the other peoples posts before you put all your preaching down? But at least you proved my point, that the believers tend to be less tolerant and more narrow minded than those who have a broader view. We are real people with real feelings you know... and right now we are alot more real than Jesus. Does he have a phone number or an email address that i can contact him on? No. But Pricillia does, and I like talking to her for now. AWW... thanks SB, I like talking to you too! Yes and LH what will Your God do with your friends and family that do not practice religion the way you do...where will they end up... And like one of the links I have posted... How will you feel while you are enjoying yourself in heaven while they are among the unsaved... and what if they lived a good life, they helped out others and supported thier friends and family and loved nature.. you know all around good... but they chose to live without the word of god in thier lives would they go to be with Satan? What if thier is a person that did except Jesus as thier savior and they were mean and nasty and never helped anyone but themselves... would they still go to heaven? Come on now!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hell is real, I went there! by Jennifer Perez This testimony is of a 15 year old girl who was raised in a Christian home. She later backslid in her walk, found herself overdosing on drugs, dieing, and being sent to Hell. Fortunately, she was given a second chance and mission to go back and warn the lost, backslidden, and lukewarm with an urgent message. [DOC] [PDF] [MP3] http://www.spiritlessons.com/Documents/Jennifer_Perez/Hell_is_Real_I_Went_There_Jennifer_Perez.htm 23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese Do you believe in Hell? What does Jesus save us from? [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=648563944666093503[/COLOR][/FONT] * A Divine Revelation of Hell by Mary K Baxter (text and mp3) Hear the eyewitness testimony on the True Existence of Hell. Mary Katherine Baxter was chosen by God to let the world know of the REALITY of Hell. Jesus Christ appeared to Mary Baxter on 40 consecutive nights and took Mary on a tour of Hell and Heaven. She walked, with Jesus, through the horrors of Hell and talked with many people. Jesus showed her what happens to souls when they die and what happens to the unbelievers and Servants of God who do not obey there calling http://www.spiritlessons.com/Mary_K_Baxter_A_Divine_Revelation_of_Hell.htm Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: The Lord uses many to show many. God Bless* Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 I don't want to go to heaven if all the people there just regurgitate stuff from the Bible all the time. At least we can have a normal conversation P. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Yeah, those out of body experiences are really something. And scientifically proven!!!! That Nicky Cruze looks like a phony creep. I bet he is laughing all the way to the bank. Bet he isn't living like Mother Theresa did. Now that woman was a true saint. She didn't suck money out of people to preach her word. She just got on with helping the sick and the needy. For free. She died in poverty. Its people like Nicky Cruze that really get up my nose. I bet he drives a top of the range car, and lives in a great big flash house... he can certainly afford fake tan and expensive haircuts. I better stop ranting now... Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 I don't want to go to heaven if all the people there just regurgitate stuff from the Bible all the time. At least we can have a normal conversation P. I think LH should read other reads... and Please do not pray for me just accept me as I am Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Yeah, those out of body experiences are really something. And scientifically proven!!!! That Nicky Cruze looks like a phony creep. I bet he is laughing all the way to the bank. Bet he isn't living like Mother Theresa did. Now that woman was a true saint. She didn't suck money out of people to preach her word. She just got on with helping the sick and the needy. For free. She died in poverty. Its people like Nicky Cruze that really get up my nose. I bet he drives a top of the range car, and lives in a great big flash house... he can certainly afford fake tan and expensive haircuts. I better stop ranting now... NO SB... It is not ranting! It is all about money sometimes... You have an experience you write about it.. You get money! How much money does selling the Bible make every year? Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hasn't it been the world bestseller since books have been sold commercially? I wonder who gets the royalties? I wouldn't imagine that God has a bank account. I have had a few strange mind altering experiences. Chemically induced during my youth of course. Not sure those stories would sell so well- they have been done to death. Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hasn't it been the world bestseller since books have been sold commercially? I wonder who gets the royalties? I wouldn't imagine that God has a bank account. I have had a few strange mind altering experiences. Chemically induced during my youth of course. Not sure those stories would sell so well- they have been done to death. Yes I think that the Bible is the Best Seller but it is also the most misunderstood book in the world as well... Oh those mind altering drugs... fules the creative mind.. though I have never touched MAD's I have heard stories... Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 They're probably all true. I have tried a few... but its not really my bag anymore. i can totally see how people would think that they are having a spiritual experience on them tho. Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Man puts cost value on many things in the world; and will sell his very eternal soul cheaply. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Exodus 21:23-27 "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" It about equivalent justice but can be construed with monetary connotations, eg. Judaism. Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Deuteronomy 25:11 “If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, 12 then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity. So ladies... hands off my balls or we are going to chop it off... These are the rules to live by... Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 lol, not even going there with that aspect of the Deuteronomic Code. Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Man puts cost value on many things in the world; and will sell his very eternal soul cheaply. so the church never profits? never? Can you talk from your own mind and stop using scriptures, I think people will listen to what you have to say if you talk instead of what you have been doing... Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 so the church never profits? never? Can you talk from your own mind and stop using scriptures, I think people will listen to what you have to say if you talk instead of what you have been doing... The prophit of the Church is not what man sees. Man sees the materialistic gain of the Church as; what cash is taking and who is stealing form the congregation? The true prophit of the Church is in the heart. 1)Soul Salvation makes us one of the Lords. 2)We belong to the family of Christ. 3)The Church is all over world …saved we are one in spirit in the Body of Christ. 4)We have eternal life in the Glorious Kingdom of our Heavenly Father. 5)Our increase in the Lord. 6)Our decrease in this life on earth is to increase in Jesus. 7)To live this life Jesus gave us for Him… to Honor Him with the time we have been allotted is a privy and a joy. 8)No words could explain the joys of the Lord and the divine love He offers His own. To be of God and in His fold is the richness of the Church… His Holy Spirit fills us and touches our hearts a gift from our Father in Heaven. Have you heard or read of Heaven and what its like? Its so beautiful we cannot imagine. I have read of the Crystal clear water and the streets of Gold, many mansions, Gates of Pearl. The glory of Gods brilliance are the lightof Heaven. There is no sunlight … God is the light of Heaven. The Love of God throughout heaven. Jesus is the King of kings can you imagine man on earth gets excited over a gold ring and Gods children walk on streets of Gold. The Church does not store up treasures on earth where thieves will steal and moths and rust will take them away. Our treasure is stored up in Heaven. Jesus is the eternal prophit of the Church through soul salvation ...and there is no greater gain of the Church than eternity with Jesus. God Bless* Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Originally Posted by Love Hurts [ Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? so the church never profits? never? Can you talk from your own mind and stop using scriptures, I think people will listen to what you have to say if you talk instead of what you have been doing... ____________________________ What Jesus is saying in that scripture? Your soul is valuable it is eternal. It will never perish. We must go back to the cross. The high cost for our souls; paid by the Son of God. Jesus died for us claiming us worthy of. Now we have a choice; to claim Jesus as our Savor and live life eternal with Jesus our Lord. To gain the whole world and loose your own soul is to love this world so much. And all that it offers… What is it that takes our fullest attention and devotion? Is it, pride, drugs, sex, money, vanity, materialistic gain, alcohol, intelligence,, sports, deceivers of men, thievery, murderous, , idol worshipping; worshipping false gods, cults, witches, black witches, warlocks magic, demon worshipers, voodoo, cults, mockers of God… man is a lover of himself more than a lover of God; he is haughty and prideful. What ever it is that takes one away from Jesus the true living God is what man has given or exchanged or sold his eternal soul for. These souls are spiritually dead in Christ…literally “ The Walking Dead.” We can all change and find Jesus. We can all repent of our sins and finding Christ. Why wait to do that is the question? If these that mock God should perish? ... Its for eternity, never having another chance to claim Jesus as Savior; its to late, opportunities came and were past by for the lusts of the flesh and the loves of the pleasures of this world … a heart does not lie. A mans heart will lead him to his destination in this life and in the next. Jesus is the reader of hearts. God Bless* Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 While I grew up with organized religion and married into a different one, I've fallen away from it completely. I agree with pricillia that neither the Bible or organized religion is necessary to define a good person or even to define that God exists and his covenant to the people. The concept of Original Sin defeats me when it's applied to innocent babies. I agree with both of you. neither the Bible or organized religion define a good person because no one is good enough to be called "good person". if you feel comfortable the day when you face God, then continue what you believe, I, we, am tolerant for that. nobody force you here. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 While I grew up with organized religion and married into a different one, I've fallen away from it completely. I agree with pricillia that neither the Bible or organized religion is necessary to define a good person or even to define that God exists and his covenant to the people. The concept of Original Sin defeats me when it's applied to innocent babies. If you feel comfortable the day when you face God, then continue what you believe, I, we, am tolerant for that. nobody force you here. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 LC... people think differently in this world, not once have you been accepting of another opinion if it does not have to do with accepting god the way that you would like us to accept god... I should say how many times? it's not our way. If you believe in God, you ask God Himself what should you do to enter heaven. but I guess you are not sure. And when you mention Hitler that is such an extreme the man was insain! I would never even think to do what he did to anyone or any living creature... Hitler believe in God:eek: How come I didn't know. By the way how come hitler is in here this topic? did we talk about killing????? Let's talk about priets in the catholic church that molest young boys... Well, priest is human being, NOT God, I hope that you notice this Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 After reading enough of Love_Hurts posts I am seriously wondering if she is suffering from some type of mental illness. Her reactions and points of view are far from normal and don't even mention the word tolerance here... I did not see she won't tolerant others who don't believe. I see her trying to save souls from hell. she has pure heart you cannot see. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 But it seems that the believers are MUCH less tolerant of other peoples views than the non-believers, or the partial believers. And this is why i have such a major problem with organised religion. No, the reality is non-believers won't tolerate believers. please check out history, or even this board...... Link to post Share on other sites
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