Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 LB, you talk about dreams and you talk about God showing you through dreams and other people and the environment. I pay attention and dream frequently, sometimes my dreams come true, it is weird to say the least. But I think that you are the one that is confused, not me, You should not believe everything you read, because it is only a single view, there are many different perspectives on what is real and what is not. You are right. If you are not confused, I am sure you are pretty sure which road you should go. and I don't get the spirit to believe everything I read, believe me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 You can love god and believe in other forms of religion and sprituality I hope you find peace and acceptance that everyone does not think like you. Satan dwell between jesus and man???????????????????? This sounds a little koo koo, but ok I will not judge just sayin She got peace and acceptance already, I can tell. She did it for you. One day I asked God "we already got our salvation, we know we are going to heaven, and we are pretty much content with our own life now, then why should we tell people the good news while all we have is rejection? they don't seem to appreciate:p ". then God put something into my heart "This is my commandment. and that's how you got your salvation. if nobody told you, how could you get it?" ahhhhhh, continue, continue, continue.....devil you cannot win, haha.... Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I agree with both of you. neither the Bible or organized religion define a good person because no one is good enough to be called "good person". if you feel comfortable the day when you face God, then continue what you believe, I, we, am tolerant for that. nobody force you here. Does belonging to organized religion and the belief in the scriptures, the only way to get to Heaven? Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 Does belonging to organized religion and the belief in the scriptures, the only way to get to Heaven? I don't belonging to any organized religion group right now. I like to go and come freely;) . but if Lord want me to join, I will. Lord called me when I knew nothing about religion. I believe everyword of Bible, and I am planing to obey it, cause Jesus said "if you love me, you would obey my commandment" "no one can see the Kingdom of God without being born again". Holy Spirit testify this is true, and this is good enough for me, I don't have to look other false teachings. as the way to heaven is not about documents made by people, it is not earned by good works, it is not about how rich you are, it is about pure heart, and pure heart can see the Lord. I tell what I know, whether you believe it or not, it is your decision. no intention to force anybody here. but you cannot shut me up:p Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I don't belonging to any organized religion group right now. I like to go and come freely;) . but if Lord want me to join, I will. Lord called me when I knew nothing about religion. I believe everyword of Bible, and I am planing to obey it, cause Jesus said "if you love me, you would obey my commandment" "no one can see the Kingdom of God without being born again". Holy Spirit testify this is true, and this is good enough for me, I don't have to look other false teachings. as the way to heaven is not about documents made by people, it is not earned by good works, it is not about how rich you are, it is about pure heart, and pure heart can see the Lord. I tell what I know, whether you believe it or not, it is your decision. no intention to force anybody here. but you cannot shut me up:p But based on Catholicism, I can repent on my death bed, take Jesus into my heart and still go to Heaven. You must believe all your life, taking step by step instruction from the Bible. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 But based on Catholicism, I can repent on my death bed, take Jesus into my heart and still go to Heaven. You must believe all your life, taking step by step instruction from the Bible. Lord look into people's heart. Many people aren't born in a christian family, but if they repent and seek Lord, Lord would be very happy. as for repent on your death bed, it is Lord who to decide. but i guess if you believe in Him, won't risk that much? Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 LonelyBird and LoveHurts- I am very tolerant of what you believe. That is your choice and I respect that. LonelyBird, I also respect the fact that you are listening to others and giving thoughtful replies. But LH please don't try and convert me. I am at peace with myself after a fairly difficult journey thru life up till this point. Nobody saved me except myself and love from friends and family. And maturing a bit. So I feel comfortable enough that my life is worthy. I don't need a higher being to confirm that for me. Thats me. And different opinions make the world go round. Peace to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Lord look into people's heart. Many people aren't born in a christian family, but if they repent and seek Lord, Lord would be very happy. as for repent on your death bed, it is Lord who to decide. but i guess if you believe in Him, won't risk that much? Glad you have a sense of humour about the whole issue. Theoretical debate is good for the soul. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I don't belonging to any organized religion group right now. I like to go and come freely;) . but if Lord want me to join, I will. Lord called me when I knew nothing about religion. I believe everyword of Bible, and I am planing to obey it, cause Jesus said "if you love me, you would obey my commandment" "no one can see the Kingdom of God without being born again". Holy Spirit testify this is true, and this is good enough for me, I don't have to look other false teachings. as the way to heaven is not about documents made by people, it is not earned by good works, it is not about how rich you are, it is about pure heart, and pure heart can see the Lord. I tell what I know, whether you believe it or not, it is your decision. no intention to force anybody here. but you cannot shut me up:p Ha If you love me you wil.... Typical man Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Ha If you love me you wil.... Typical man ...swallow whatever it is I give you??? Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 ...swallow whatever it is I give you??? among other things.... Typical line... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I should say how many times? it's not our way. If you believe in God, you ask God Himself what should you do to enter heaven. but I guess you are not sure. Hitler believe in God:eek: How come I didn't know. By the way how come hitler is in here this topic? did we talk about killing????? Well, priest is human being, NOT God, I hope that you notice this Yes I know this but they are a messenger and I don't believe in that message...understand Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted February 27, 2007 Author Share Posted February 27, 2007 Ha If you love me you wil.... Typical man pricillia Man can use people left them empty and low self-esteem, but If Lord use you, He would make you full, shape your charactors, teach you how to love and what are the most beautiful things we cannot see before. It is rewarding. Yes I know this but they are a messenger and I don't believe in that message...understand Yes, messenger. messengers themselves have own spiritual battle each day. but put eyes on Lord, everything would be ok. I think those priests lost their battles. we all talk our belief here. the decision is yours. Good luck Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 I just read some break-ups and coping posts, I felt it is so urgent to have God in our lifes. People so easily get depressed by certain event, which we shoudn't. I want to beat some sense into them, I got fed up. Ok, sorry, I need to be more compassionate. Seems people still want to grab straws (romantic relationship). People tend to live by sight, not by faith. this CAUSE problems, depressions. God is love, positive. Faith produce positive energy, positive energy produce effective solutions, positive energy produce sound mentalities. People who has big ego has difficult time of letting it go. If we can minimize our bruised ego, we really can wish ex have a good life with or without us in it. You can NEVER put your hope and foundation ON a romantic parter who is human being capable of making mistakes and hurting others. Why do people hold onto their ego so much? Big ego cause problems, big ego is selfish. Big ego is defined by outside elements--money, other people's comment and love, power, beauty.... BUT our spirit is defined by God and comes from God, it belongs to inside and nothing to with outside element. People experienced break-up, after one year, still hurting, why? they can not let their ego go, their ego was hurt, badly. they hate their exes. couldnot forgive them. So please stop define yourself by your ego, and start to define yourself by Spirit, which comes from God. We need to crucify our ego on daily basis. Big ego causes isolation from people. Big ego makes a selfish person. Big ego makes a bad lover Big ego makes a bad parents Big ego makes bad everything Big ego couldn't let the hurt go Spirit makes a good lover and everything:) Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I just read some break-ups and coping posts, I felt it is so urgent to have God in our lifes. People so easily get depressed by certain event, which we shoudn't. I want to beat some sense into them, I got fed up. Ok, sorry, I need to be more compassionate. Seems people still want to grab straws (romantic relationship). People tend to live by sight, not by faith. this CAUSE problems, depressions. God is love, positive. Faith produce positive energy, positive energy produce effective solutions, positive energy produce sound mentalities. People who has big ego has difficult time of letting it go. If we can minimize our bruised ego, we really can wish ex have a good life with or without us in it. You can NEVER put your hope and foundation ON a romantic parter who is human being capable of making mistakes and hurting others. Why do people hold onto their ego so much? Big ego cause problems, big ego is selfish. Big ego is defined by outside elements--money, other people's comment and love, power, beauty.... BUT our spirit is defined by God and comes from God, it belongs to inside and nothing to with outside element. People experienced break-up, after one year, still hurting, why? they can not let their ego go, their ego was hurt, badly. they hate their exes. couldnot forgive them. So please stop define yourself by your ego, and start to define yourself by Spirit, which comes from God. We need to crucify our ego on daily basis. Big ego causes isolation from people. Big ego makes a selfish person. Big ego makes a bad lover Big ego makes a bad parents Big ego makes bad everything Big ego couldn't let the hurt go Spirit makes a good lover and everything:) I think I will disagree with most of this statement... Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Me too. I can stillbe a good parent, a good lover, and a giving, loving peaceful person without God. And a breakup hurts whether you believe in God or not. God isn't going to make it better! Only time can do that. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 I think I will disagree with most of this statement... Break-up can be a healing process, heal your old wounds, and prepare you for next nice lady Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Me too. I can stillbe a good parent, a good lover, and a giving, loving peaceful person without God. And a breakup hurts whether you believe in God or not. God isn't going to make it better! Only time can do that. Then why someone can be healed within monthes, but some people cannot be healed even several years? Why some people can accept the fact like an adult, but some people cannot even admit the fact, and even stalk their exes. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Then why someone can be healed within monthes, but some people cannot be healed even several years? Why some people can accept the fact like an adult, but some people cannot even admit the fact, and even stalk their exes. Because people are different! Some people have more experience than others, others have been terribly hurt or betrayed, others get depressed (which is a chemical imbalance in the brain) and can act irrationally as a result. How someone deals with a breakup has nothing to do with whether they have God in their lives or not. Its like bereavement, the loss of a job, and other forms of stress. People cope differently. MOST people recover from stressful events eventually. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Because people are different! Some people have more experience than others, others have been terribly hurt or betrayed, others get depressed (which is a chemical imbalance in the brain) and can act irrationally as a result. How someone deals with a breakup has nothing to do with whether they have God in their lives or not. Its like bereavement, the loss of a job, and other forms of stress. People cope differently. MOST people recover from stressful events eventually. No, you were cheated by Satan, how the chemical imbalance happened in the first place? People are different on healing because they have different level connection with God. And big ego is a major element for recovering. And faith is a great tool to cope every difficulties Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 No, you were cheated by Satan, how the chemical imbalance happened in the first place? People are different on healing because they have different level connection with God. And big ego is a major element for recovering. And faith is a great tool to cope every difficulties ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WTF? That is totally ridiculous LB. depression is NOT because you have been cheated by satan. If it is, how come antidepressant medication works for so many people? Me included. I have been depressed and recovered, and God had nothing to do with it because he doesn't exist. There are even people who HAVE FAITH on LS that are having a tough time recovering from breakups. In some cases their faith is making it worse, like the guy who is miserable but won't leave his wife (who is treating him like sh*t) because he believes divorce is a sin. He is LOSING faith because his prayer isn't working. I don't believe in God, and I recovered from a breakup without too much difficulty. It was tough at the time, but I got through it. More than one breakup in fact. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Yes, Satan caused depression. Satan cannot be seen, but he do exists! Satan uses past negative experieces, negative memories to put people down. Satan is much smarter than people because he knows what the weakest link in a person. We Christians have Holy Spirit to protect us, but many people don't. they choose not to believe in God, they must have own will to submit themselves to God. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Yes, Satan caused depression. Satan cannot be seen, but he do exists! Satan uses past negative experieces, negative memories to put people down. Satan is much smarter than people because he knows what the weakest link in a person. We Christians have Holy Spirit to protect us, but many people don't. they choose not to believe in God, they must have own will to submit themselves to God. I can see you are back on the path of the righteous Lonely Bird, and you are not listening to one thing I am saying. Christians are not immune to pain or hurt. Don't give me that rubbish about the holy spirit protecting you! ****BANGS HEAD AGAINST BRICK WALL****** I will NEVER submit myself to god. I don't need to. I am a happy fulfilled person. That is enough for me. Can't you accept that and be happy for me instead of trying to tell me my life isn't complete without god? I don't try to change your beliefs. Believe in god, thats great whatever. But accept there are people who don't need him to be happy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 I can see you are back on the path of the righteous Lonely Bird, and you are not listening to one thing I am saying. Christians are not immune to pain or hurt. Don't give me that rubbish about the holy spirit protecting you! ****BANGS HEAD AGAINST BRICK WALL****** I will NEVER submit myself to god. I don't need to. I am a happy fulfilled person. That is enough for me. Can't you accept that and be happy for me instead of trying to tell me my life isn't complete without god? I don't try to change your beliefs. Believe in god, thats great whatever. But accept there are people who don't need him to be happy. We Christians may have pain, but we live by Faith, not by SIGHT. it is true that Holy Spirit will guide us to make right decisions and teach us about secret about God and about truth about life. so we have more chances to have a rejoice and abundant life in this earth, like we are guided by a light in darkness. If we obey God's commandments, enter God's covenant, then we are protected by God. and we don't worry about life. Yes, of course, I want you to be happy, that's why I tell all these things here Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Yes, Satan caused depression. Satan cannot be seen, but he do exists! Satan uses past negative experieces, negative memories to put people down. Satan is much smarter than people because he knows what the weakest link in a person. We Christians have Holy Spirit to protect us, but many people don't. they choose not to believe in God, they must have own will to submit themselves to God. Seeing as depression can be transient or chronic it can be described as a state and a disease... If we were to follow LB's logic then satan is responsible for this. So this would mean that satan is responsible for diseases... Now there are many, many conditions which can afflict the human body and it would seem that satan is responsible for these... This line of argumentation would then lead us to believe that satan is also responsible for bad breath and flatulence... How does the holy spirit protect one against these things??? Link to post Share on other sites
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