Sex....What Does Jesus Christ Allow?

[burning 4 revenge]

If Jesus were to come back today...he'd be gunned down cold by the CIA

yeah, because he'd be a militant muslim and everybody knows it

[taiko]

Didn't God warn us about "spilling the seed"? Would that make masturbation immoral?

 

God I hope not.

That is from Genesis. Catholics believe that masturbation itself is sin. In the story the man did not perform his husbandly duty to his brothers widow and spilled instead of enableing her to become a mother. How that squares with the withdrawel method being acceptable for birth control I don't understand.

 

Protesants on the other hand that believe that masturbation is a sin think that you must lust and covet to enable yourself to masturbate so that would be the sin.

 

I'm not sure of what Jews and Muslims, Jesus is the second most important phopht to them believe.

[alphamale]

That is from Genesis. Catholics believe that masturbation itself is sin. In the story the man did not perform his husbandly duty to his brothers widow and spilled instead of enableing her to become a mother.

There are Jews in the world.

There are Buddhists.

There are Hindus and Mormons, and then

There are those that follow Mohammed, but

I've never been one of them.

 

I'm a Roman Catholic,

And have been since before I was born,

And the one thing they say about Catholics is:

They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

 

You don't have to be a six-footer.

You don't have to have a great brain.

You don't have to have any clothes on. You're

A Catholic the moment Dad came,

 

Because

 

Every sperm is sacred.

Every sperm is great.

If a sperm is wasted,

God gets quite irate.

[pricillia]

Hmmm yeah… it could be that adulterers and fornicators have their place in hell?

 

 

Yes LH but that is not what I asked...Is your god not a forgiving god?

 

Fornicator, so basicly anyone who has sexual relations with someone that they truly love is under this list in your book? I don't think so...

[taiko]

Yes LH but that is not what I asked...Is your god not a forgiving god?

 

Fornicator, so basicly anyone who has sexual relations with someone that they truly love is under this list in your book? I don't think so...

Last time I tried this it got lost but here goes again.

 

Any sin not just the sexual can lead to that. It is in the acceptance of Jesus as Christ and your saviour that makes these sins along with all others are forgivable.

[pricillia]

Last time I tried this it got lost but here goes again.

 

Any sin not just the sexual can lead to that. It is in the acceptance of Jesus as Christ and your saviour that makes these sins along with all others are forgivable.

 

 

Thanks Taiko...

[amerikajin]

Yes LH but that is not what I asked...Is your god not a forgiving god?

 

Fornicator, so basicly anyone who has sexual relations with someone that they truly love is under this list in your book? I don't think so...

 

I don't for a second pretend to be a Biblical scholar, but you simply cannot take the Bible literally. It's like other literature in that it uses symbolism to make a point. I think it was written in such a way that would be creative enough to inspire interest among potential Christian followers. Christ's disciples could have cut to the chase and written in very simplistic fashion what God wanted, but it might not attract an audience.

 

Much of the symbolism is related to things that people of that time would have understood clearly, and in a manner that they would have been able to relate to. Things like war, profiteering, and sexual deviance. But the term "fornicator" is, I think, not strictly applied to sex. It appears that way because we try to take how it was written in the context of that era (not to mention translated into English in a different era) and applied to our times. Some things are going to get lost in translation but the meaning is still apparent if you put it in the broader context of the world around you. In Revelation, for example, the Bible is clearly describing a time when mankind has maximized its greed to the point where there is rampant war and debauchery - hell on earth.

 

When it talks about how all the kings of the earth and the merchants watch the Harlot's ashes burn with Babylon, there is a deeper meaning, which applies to many different aspects of society, not just cheap sex. But the cheap sex is seen as the bastardization of humanity, a fake kind of love between man and woman, which is why the analogy has such a powerful meaning. The Harlot represents a threat to the family cohesion; it represents the greed of powerful men, whose greed exceeds that of a mere obsession with carnal pleasure. "Fornication," thus, is an analogy that is used to describe other types of objectification at the expense of ourselves. It appears to be a specific decree from God, but it is probably more like a different branch of the same tree.

 

I am not a Biblical scholar, but I know enough to know that nobody should ever try to interpret its text literally. Think about the text. Know something about the history of the ancient world (and I admit I have my deficiencies in that regard), and think about how what was written then might be applied now.

 

I believe there's a lot of wisdom in the Bible, and you can know something about God reading the good book. I guess I just don't necessarily subscribe to the idea that Jesus was "The Messiah". I also like to think that God can be understood not through one religion but through many, and even through one's self. Think of God as like a giant mountain around which humanity gathers. On one face, people see glaciers; on another, they might see jagged rocks; and on another side, they might see a beautiful waterfall. They don't see the same thing...but they're looking at the same beautiful mountain.

[Love Hurts]

Yes LH but that is not what I asked...Is your god not a forgiving god?

 

Fornicator, so basicly anyone who has sexual relations with someone that they truly love is under this list in your book? I don't think so...

 

Glorify God in Your Body

 

12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

 

13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

 

14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

 

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

 

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

 

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

 

*18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

 

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

 

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

 

[1 Corinthians 6]

[Love Hurts]

God is forgiving to those that repent and refrain from...

We need to be careful... we can be fooled into thinking we can walk two roads... we are all sinners... we just have to wake up and realize we are and what is sin.

 

God Bless*

[pricillia]

Glorify God in Your Body

 

12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

 

13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

 

14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

 

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

 

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

 

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

 

*18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

 

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

 

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

 

[1 Corinthians 6]

 

 

blah blah blah blah blah

 

 

I just would like to know as far as you go why does love hurt?

[Love Hurts]

Didn't God warn us about "spilling the seed"? Would that make masturbation immoral?

 

God I hope not.

 

 

What to be concerned of;

 

Adultery and fornication are sins.

Don’t forget the mind… where is it taking the body?

 

We have to be in check and strive for our mental and bodily control.

If we lack control, Satan will control us.

 

God Bless*

[Love Hurts]

blah blah blah blah blah

 

 

I just would like to know as far as you go why does love hurt?

 

 

It’s the loss of a loved one [the loss of love] that hurts the heart.

 

I can appreciate your mood... I go there often.

[pricillia]

What to be concerned of;

 

Adultery and fornication are sins.

Don’t forget the mind… where is it taking the body?

 

We have to be in check and strive for our mental and bodily control.

If we lack control, Satan will control us.

 

God Bless*

 

Lack of control is not being able to think for yourself and hiding behind the bible.

 

I hope that you are not using this to cover something missing in your life..

 

LH, honestly what do you do for simple clean fun and enjoyment?

[pricillia]

It’s the loss of a loved one [the loss of love] that hurts the heart.

 

I can appreciate your mood... I go there often.

 

Oh I am very sorry that you lost a loved one... I am dealing with that as well as I lost my mother to lung cancer almost a year ago, but I can still see her suffering as it is so vivid in my mind it gets me all choked up.

[Love Hurts]

Lack of control is not being able to think for yourself and hiding behind the bible.

 

I hope that you are not using this to cover something missing in your life..

 

LH, honestly what do you do for simple clean fun and enjoyment?

Anything but look for sex…. Its not on my to do list.

[pricillia]

Anything but look for sex…. Its not on my to do list.

 

 

I am sorry to get personal but I do not look for sex either... If I am physical with a man it is because I have feelings of love for him.

 

So to me it is not sex, it is a form of intamacy which brings us closer together, yes there is pleasure in it but only if there is love there.

 

Sex is just that sex, so going out to look for that is something that I don't do as well.

 

 

You don't have to answer but do you obstain from physical intamacy in a loving relationship all together?

[alphamale]

Oh I am very sorry that you lost a loved one... I am dealing with that as well as I lost my mother to lung cancer almost a year ago, but I can still see her suffering as it is so vivid in my mind it gets me all choked up.

sorry for your loss PRICILLIA....I myself lost my mum to cancer 10 yrs ago. It was pretty rough

[Love Hurts]

Oh I am very sorry that you lost a loved one... I am dealing with that as well as I lost my mother to lung cancer almost a year ago, but I can still see her suffering as it is so vivid in my mind it gets me all choked up.

 

 

I am sorry for your loss of your mother;

It’s sad to loose a parent.

 

I don’t know that lose as of today and I’m grateful not to.

I love my parents dearly and even though I know I will see them again in Heaven… it would hurt immensely; not having them here.

 

We pray we all make the Rapture… and that’s a joyous thought… never tasting of death but to be transformed in the air… When Christ calls us Home in the twinkling of eye.

 

God Bless*

[Love Hurts]

I am sorry to get personal but I do not look for sex either... If I am physical with a man it is because I have feelings of love for him.

 

So to me it is not sex, it is a form of intamacy which brings us closer together, yes there is pleasure in it but only if there is love there.

 

Sex is just that sex, so going out to look for that is something that I don't do as well.

 

 

You don't have to answer but do you obstain from physical intamacy in a loving relationship all together?

 

 

I am human just as you are we all sinners saved by grace.

I have fallen just as you…. I have had to repent.

Praise Jesus He has forgiven me.

 

Been there done that... I don’t think about it.

99% of battle won; where the mind goes the body follows.

 

I prefer to wonder who is saved and who is not?

My joy is working for the Lord and striving to spread the word of Christ.

I believe and feel we are living in the last days.

 

If I speak to someone and have an opportunity to witness, I do so.

To God nothing is more valued than a soul.

 

I have a much stronger conviction after listening to Mary K. Baxter and Bill Wiese.

 

Now I; look at someone, read or listen to someone and wonder where he or she is headed?

 

Everything in life is temporary nothing lasts; its all fleeting.

I have much I give Glory to God for… still I cant wait to go Home…

I’m not Home here. I’m just passing through.

 

God Bless*

[pricillia]

sorry for your loss PRICILLIA....I myself lost my mum to cancer 10 yrs ago. It was pretty rough

 

 

Thanks Alpha,

 

Yes just about 10 years ago, I lost my dad to a Heart Attack, so now they are both gone and that is where soooo much of my pain comes from. The last thing I said to my mother was I love you, I did not have that opportunity with my father, so I hope that he knows.

[Love Hurts]

1 Thessalonians 4:

2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

 

3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

 

4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;

 

5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

 

6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

 

7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.

 

8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

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--I was looking for a scripture [i think its by Apostle Paul]…. something to this effect;

 

“If you cannot refrain from as in abstinence… then by all means do get married.”

 

God punishes sin, and rewards those that follow His will.

If you’re in love have you considered getting married?

I know marriage is not popular in the world…but its still Gods will.

 

God Bless*

[Love Hurts]

Thanks Alpha,

 

Yes just about 10 years ago, I lost my dad to a Heart Attack, so now they are both gone and that is where soooo much of my pain comes from. The last thing I said to my mother was I love you, I did not have that opportunity with my father, so I hope that he knows.

 

 

Pricilla,

 

Your heart carries two very difficult loses. It’s so very sad to hear.

I hope you have a large family circle and good friends to comfort you.

More than all this I pray you find Christ who can comfort a broken heart; aid it to be more tolerable and even to heal. God alone is your refuge and your strength.

 

Once you find Him. Sometimes God moves quickly in our lives and sometimes slowly.

Through everything a reason? …Only He knows they why of it all.

We begin with Faith; and pray for faith to trust Him more.

 

God Bless*

[pricillia]

Yes my heart carries more then just two losses...

 

My broken heart will never be whole again, that is not possible at all.

 

If it were then I would not be human, God or no God that is just the way it is.

 

With that said I am not in a dark place just in the reality that life has loss and you have to deal with it.

[taiko]

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--I was looking for a scripture [i think its by Apostle Paul]

[Topper]

I have been doing a little reading in the Old tesament. it isa law in the Old testament that ifa man has sex with an unmarried woman he has to marry her. So does this mean that God allows sex out of marriage as long as in the end they do get married?

The Hebrew word for adultery only applies to woman. So a man can only commit adultery with another mans wife.

In the law it also states that if a man turns out his wife. Kicks her out of the house and she then finds a new man and they have sex then all three are guilty of sinning.

Yet if your broth dies and his wife does not have children then it is your duty to take her as a wife and get her pregnant. if you don't do this you are committing a sin. So yes if you were spanking the monkey you are committing a sin.

Also there are over 40 polygamist in the Bible. Some holy and blessed by god some not so holy. There is not one out and out ban on a man having more then one wife. In fact it is said that King Solomon had 1000 wives. So much for being a wise man. Honey yes, wise I'm not so sure. How did he have any time to rule over the Jews? The Bible does state that a woman with more then one husband is a harlot.

if you want some great erotic writing just go to the songs of Solomon. More proof he was pretty lusty old guy.

the Bible is filled with sex and stories of lust.