Spinderella Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It is because some women think they are entitled to anything they want and when they don't get it it drives them nuts. That is why they go after taken men. I get hit on so much more now that I have a weddin ring but I am an honest man. I tell these women to fu-k off and find another man. maybe taken men do seem more attractive especially to women who have met alot of a**holes and then think "ahh, THATS why he was single". being the type of man who wants to commit to one woman and especially if he also wants to raise kids well, is really attractive. of course as soon as he takes up a woman on her advances he loses the very thing that made him so attractive. anyway, so i dont know if i see all that much wrong with women hitting on taken men or men hitting on taken women for that matter, after all the committed person has the option of saying "no". its only people who think that men are helpless creatures that blame the women doing the hitting on. Link to post Share on other sites
Spinderella Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 ehhh I have seen leach like women attempt to no end to involve themselves in marriages of others.... even when shot down by the man himself before it starts..... hell I have lived it. Stalker X's and bunny boilers. Women hate to lose even if the prize is not worth the fight. They can just be vicious. well true you do get stalker types in life, men and women, but i think they are in the minority. Link to post Share on other sites
magichands Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love all men... blah, blah, blah. Whatever. Maybe it would be a good idea to look at each person on their merits, rather than making blanket statements about their value as sex objects. Men or women. Link to post Share on other sites
EnigmasMuse Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Truthfully I am not that bitter either. I know it may seem that I am but I just trying to tell men to wise up and how they can find happiness. Nearly every person who has done me wrong has destroyed themselves in one way or the other so I figure since the universe tends to balance itself out that it is a waste of time for me to hold grudges against others. I understand this, and I don't think there is anything wrong with warning or telling other people of the experiences that have gone on in your life or even to vent at times, but I do think, if a person still goes on and on and on after years and years have passed, and they still harp on it, then it might be that the person is truly bitter. And I'm not really meanign you woggle, but anyone for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 So what's up? Are there no bitter women here? Come on, let's hear it! Let's hear how bad you really think men are. I know you're out there. I used to be very bitter, especially after I was raped. Then I made the decision to NOT be bitter any more because if I continued to let it affect me, then that would be like letting the men win. Link to post Share on other sites
bluetuesday Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 IME, people in relationships get treated the way they allow themselves to be treated. but if the shack is anything to go by, the damaged men here DO seem to feel it more, and for longer. i'd say that's because, in general, women are smarter than men at relationship stuff. if it doesn't work out for us, we cry for a bit and then get over it. men seem to want to examine the wound for a lot longer than we do. they seem to be unable to move past the experience as quickly, they seem to take it more personally (male pride i guess) and they hold onto their bitterness longer as a reminder that all women suck - thereby reinforcing the belief that the problems in the relationship weren't their fault. i dunno, it's a guess. it kinda hangs together though. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Truthfully I am not that bitter either. I know it may seem that I am but I just trying to tell men to wise up and how they can find happiness. Nearly every person who has done me wrong has destroyed themselves in one way or the other so I figure since the universe tends to balance itself out that it is a waste of time for me to hold grudges against others. That's not what being bitter is about, dude. Bitterness is an attitude, one that you exude. Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love all men... blah, blah, blah. Whatever. Maybe it would be a good idea to look at each person on their merits, rather than making blanket statements about their value as sex objects. Men or women. Well, to be fair, Johan asked a general question that requires a generization to answer. But there was another thread someone (I think Woggle!?) started about three weeks ago that asked people to list what they like about the opposite sex, and that is full of specific, concrete reasons about why I, and others, love men. I do love men. And, in general, I love chocolate. But I have tasted some really good chocolate, and some pretty bad chocolate. That's not what being bitter is about, dude. Bitterness is an attitude, one that you exude. Boom ch' ! Boom boom ch'! Check it out! That's not what being bitter is about, dude. Bitterness is an attitude. One that you exude! Boom ch'! Boom boom ch'! Word up! Link to post Share on other sites
coco_milkshake Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I am usually not a bitter person but I was for a while after my ex broke my heart. However, I found that I shouldnt be hateful towards men after one bad experience cos I know there are those guys out there who worship the ground their gfs walk on. I hope the next guy I meet is like that. Link to post Share on other sites
magichands Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well, to be fair, Johan asked a general question that requires a generization to answer. But there was another thread someone (I think Woggle!?) started about three weeks ago that asked people to list what they like about the opposite sex, and that is full of specific, concrete reasons about why I, and others, love men. I do love men. And, in general, I love chocolate. But I have tasted some really good chocolate, and some pretty bad chocolate. You can be right. This time. Boom ch' ! Boom boom ch'! Check it out! That's not what being bitter is about, dude. Bitterness is an attitude. One that you exude! Boom ch'! Boom boom ch'! Word up! :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It is actually the opposite. Male bashing is damn near a national past time while a man saying the same thing would tarred and feathered. Also many women can dush it but can't take it. I have had a few women go on male bashing tirades around me but when I fire back I am called a sexist pig. The gender divide will always exist but is completely separate from societies view on bitter men versus bitter women. The impression I get as a woman is that society equates bitterness as an undesirable female trait therefore she isn't attractive versus viewing a bitter man who is either justified for whatever reason and/or worth saving by some good woman. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 maybe taken men do seem more attractive especially to women who have met alot of a**holes and then think "ahh, THATS why he was single". being the type of man who wants to commit to one woman and especially if he also wants to raise kids well, is really attractive. of course as soon as he takes up a woman on her advances he loses the very thing that made him so attractive. anyway, so i dont know if i see all that much wrong with women hitting on taken men or men hitting on taken women for that matter, after all the committed person has the option of saying "no". its only people who think that men are helpless creatures that blame the women doing the hitting on. It is a total lack of respect to hit on a person in a committed (knowing this) relationship. It is a total lack of respect toward not only the spouse but the person you are hitting on. You are saying you do not respect their relationship or choice to be in it. Besides it lacks class. Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang Sally Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 The original question was, where are all the bitter women on LS? Ummm....have you not been over to the OM/OW threads???? Seems to be an overabundance of bitterness (on all sides) there. If it's bitterness you want, that's where the jackpot is, from what I've seen. Not condemning or justifying...just what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites
polywog Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 The original question was, where are all the bitter women on LS? Ummm....have you not been over to the OM/OW threads???? Seems to be an overabundance of bitterness (on all sides) there. If it's bitterness you want, that's where the jackpot is, from what I've seen. Not condemning or justifying...just what I've seen. I was thinking the same thing, and also not condemning or justifying etc. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I'll tell you the difference. Women are not born with balls. So when relationships end, they often take the guy's balls with them. She feels bad, but not as bad as he does. Because she has his balls in her hand. That makes guys bitter. this is true Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I'm a very bitter, jaded person. Bitter about life as a whole I detest other women, women are screwy, revolting creatures to deal with in general. I avoid my own gender as much as humanly possible. I certainly don't feel bitter towards men specifically. Actually, I find them much more easy and honest and pleasant to deal with in a general sense. However, the one 'male' thing that's affected me severely and taken me to new levels of bitterness is the whole porn/strippers/other girls fiasco. I recently had a very nasty breakup with my bf, and it was largely related to his/my conflicting attitudes with this. Losing him has taken me to a new rock bottom and I feel like I lost prettymuch everything when I lost him. It's made me focus obsessively on my physical imperfections and thus my already low self-esteem is taking a beating. Link to post Share on other sites
My Fair Katie Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I find it sort of difficult to hang on to anger. I'm comfortable with cutting contact with people who have proven themselves to be giant douches, but I don't harbor anger towards them. That would just make me an angry person, and that would be exhausting. However, before being married, when I'd break up with a man, yes I'd be a bit angry towards that particular man and think he's the scum of the universe. Then I'd binge on chocolate, listen to empowering music, buy a new pair of shoes, and get over it. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I find it sort of difficult to hang on to anger. I'm comfortable with cutting contact with people who have proven themselves to be giant douches, but I don't harbor anger towards them. That would just make me an angry person, and that would be exhausting. However, before being married, when I'd break up with a man, yes I'd be a bit angry towards that particular man and think he's the scum of the universe. Then I'd binge on chocolate, listen to empowering music, buy a new pair of shoes, and get over it. Word......... but skip the shoes, instead make it a new house, car, and boink the hell outta the pool boy for a couple of weeks! Link to post Share on other sites
EnigmasMuse Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 find it sort of difficult to hang on to anger. I'm comfortable with cutting contact with people who have proven themselves to be giant douches, but I don't harbor anger towards them. That would just make me an angry person, and that would be exhausting. I so agree with this. I can be angry at something for a bit, but thats it. I'm just not a grudge holder. It would be such a waste of my time and energy that I could be doing something more fun or useful with. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I used to be a very bitter person about women and the world in general but I am not anymore. I don't know if this is defeatism but I have come to terms with the fact that this world is seriously screwed up and rotten but I will enjoy my life anyway. I can't control how this world but I can control my response to it and if a woman brings me drama she will be out of my life. I would rather not have a woman than have one that causes me pain. Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I used to be a very bitter person about women and the world in general but I am not anymore. ...er... I don't know if this is defeatism but I have come to terms with the fact that this world is seriously screwed up and rotten but I will enjoy my life anyway. :laugh: aw, c'mon Woggle. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 ...er... :laugh: aw, c'mon Woggle. I know it sounds like bitterness but it is not. I used to have bouts of depression and anger over this but I don't anymore. I accept the facts of life and I just keep those types away from me. Link to post Share on other sites
justagirlforever Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Sounds like you're getting there Woggle. Sounds like you're getting there ..... Link to post Share on other sites
stace79 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I'm extremely bitter...I'm known to say "what is the point of moving on to another man, they are all the same and none will ever be what I want." But what is the point of that? I want to have a relationship. I want to eventually get married and have a kid. I just have to suck it up and deal with it. Complaining only serves to raise my blood pressure. Link to post Share on other sites
justagirlforever Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Just a hint, (and good thing you said "eventually) but perhaps you should work on your own issues and become a less bitter begrudging person before trying to start a relationship - never mind a kid. So best not to just "suck it up". Who would want to be in a relationhips with a bitter & man-hating woman (or man for that matter)? Link to post Share on other sites
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